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Just finished watching "Irreversible" "Time ruins everything"
That was one fucked up movie! The rape scene Has anyone here seen it? Official member of the Paw Power Posse
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lots have...its been one of those films that seems to pop up at the org every few months..
i find the film to be a fascinating discussion of destiny and how we as individuals must live with the actions that we have caused... Space for sale... | |
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I really think it's an excellint film - from the music (by one of the Daft Punk guys), to the realistic portreal of two of the most horrible crimes known, to the really great and beautiful (and 'thanks' to the reverse sequence, painful) scenes in the second part of the movie, all the way to the Kubric tribute and the (somewhat) open ending.
It's one of those movies that you physically experience, and not simply "watch". I know some people hate it and think it's cheap exploitism, but i couldn't disagree more! "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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Oh, and some trivia (from IMDB):
* Much of the dialogue was unscripted. The rape scene was shot a number of times and the only constraint on the actors, apart from the beginning and end, was that it didn't run over twenty minutes. * The blood on Bellucci's face towards the end of the rape scene was added digitally afterwards, as were the smashed-face effects in the club fight scene, and the rapist's genitals, seen after the rape,. *During the party scene shortly after (or before) the rape, when Vincent Cassel is asked his name he replies "Vincent" instead of his character's name, Marcus. He quickly covers this up by saying "just kidding" so that they would not have to reset the long and complicated shot. *Newsweek stated that this was the most walked out of movie of the year. *Director Gaspar Noé only had a three-page draft before the movie was shot, and so all of the dialogue was improvised. *The "Rectum" was in fact a genuine gay S&M club in Paris. The crew changed the name, redressed the set and added red lighting. The club was spread across the basements of three separate buildings and was so cavernous and confusing that many of the crewmembers became claustrophobic in it. *The entire film was shot on Super 16, telecined to high-def video for color tweaking and editing, and then exported to Super 35. For many of the handheld shots, the director used the smallest existing 16mm camera, the Minima. *Anywhere from five to fifteen takes of each ten to twenty minute sequence were made, some as short as three minutes and some as long as fifteen. Some takes were assembled using invisible edits disguised with digital post-processing. *The first 30 minutes of the film has a background noise with a frequency of 28Hz (low frequency, almost inaudible), similar to the noise produced by an earthquake. In humans, it causes nausea, sickness and vertigo. It was the main cause of people walking out of the theaters during the first part of the film in places like Cannes and San Sebastian. In fact, it was added with the purpose of getting this reaction. "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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SpcMs said: Oh, and some trivia (from IMDB):
* Much of the dialogue was unscripted. The rape scene was shot a number of times and the only constraint on the actors, apart from the beginning and end, was that it didn't run over twenty minutes. * The blood on Bellucci's face towards the end of the rape scene was added digitally afterwards, as were the smashed-face effects in the club fight scene, and the rapist's genitals, seen after the rape,. *During the party scene shortly after (or before) the rape, when Vincent Cassel is asked his name he replies "Vincent" instead of his character's name, Marcus. He quickly covers this up by saying "just kidding" so that they would not have to reset the long and complicated shot. *Newsweek stated that this was the most walked out of movie of the year. *Director Gaspar Noé only had a three-page draft before the movie was shot, and so all of the dialogue was improvised. *The "Rectum" was in fact a genuine gay S&M club in Paris. The crew changed the name, redressed the set and added red lighting. The club was spread across the basements of three separate buildings and was so cavernous and confusing that many of the crewmembers became claustrophobic in it. *The entire film was shot on Super 16, telecined to high-def video for color tweaking and editing, and then exported to Super 35. For many of the handheld shots, the director used the smallest existing 16mm camera, the Minima. *Anywhere from five to fifteen takes of each ten to twenty minute sequence were made, some as short as three minutes and some as long as fifteen. Some takes were assembled using invisible edits disguised with digital post-processing. *The first 30 minutes of the film has a background noise with a frequency of 28Hz (low frequency, almost inaudible), similar to the noise produced by an earthquake. In humans, it causes nausea, sickness and vertigo. It was the main cause of people walking out of the theaters during the first part of the film in places like Cannes and San Sebastian. In fact, it was added with the purpose of getting this reaction. thanks Official member of the Paw Power Posse
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smellmyfunk said: thanks my pleasure "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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The ending had me thinking: If i were epileptic
i'd be dead by now! Official member of the Paw Power Posse
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smellmyfunk said: The ending had me thinking: If i were epileptic
i'd be dead by now! "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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I thought this movie was a great piece of filmmaking but Gaspar Noe seems to be aspiring to be the cinematic equivalent of Marilyn Manson: trying to shock people for the sake of shocking them, but throwing in an existential-like plot to make you think you're seeing something "heavy." Did anyone see his film "I Stand Alone?" It's like a William Castle movie: There's a WARNING that comes up telling you that the end of the film is approaching. Leave the theater now if you can't take it.
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Case said: I thought this movie was a great piece of filmmaking but Gaspar Noe seems to be aspiring to be the cinematic equivalent of Marilyn Manson: trying to shock people for the sake of shocking them, but throwing in an existential-like plot to make you think you're seeing something "heavy." Did anyone see his film "I Stand Alone?" It's like a William Castle movie: There's a WARNING that comes up telling you that the end of the film is approaching. Leave the theater now if you can't take it.
PUUUUH-LEEEEEZE!!!! Is it any good? Official member of the Paw Power Posse
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SpcMs said: Oh, and some trivia (from IMDB):
* Much of the dialogue was unscripted. The rape scene was shot a number of times and the only constraint on the actors, apart from the beginning and end, was that it didn't run over twenty minutes. * The blood on Bellucci's face towards the end of the rape scene was added digitally afterwards, as were the smashed-face effects in the club fight scene, and the rapist's genitals, seen after the rape,. *During the party scene shortly after (or before) the rape, when Vincent Cassel is asked his name he replies "Vincent" instead of his character's name, Marcus. He quickly covers this up by saying "just kidding" so that they would not have to reset the long and complicated shot. *Newsweek stated that this was the most walked out of movie of the year. *Director Gaspar Noé only had a three-page draft before the movie was shot, and so all of the dialogue was improvised. *The "Rectum" was in fact a genuine gay S&M club in Paris. The crew changed the name, redressed the set and added red lighting. The club was spread across the basements of three separate buildings and was so cavernous and confusing that many of the crewmembers became claustrophobic in it. *The entire film was shot on Super 16, telecined to high-def video for color tweaking and editing, and then exported to Super 35. For many of the handheld shots, the director used the smallest existing 16mm camera, the Minima. *Anywhere from five to fifteen takes of each ten to twenty minute sequence were made, some as short as three minutes and some as long as fifteen. Some takes were assembled using invisible edits disguised with digital post-processing. *The first 30 minutes of the film has a background noise with a frequency of 28Hz (low frequency, almost inaudible), similar to the noise produced by an earthquake. In humans, it causes nausea, sickness and vertigo. It was the main cause of people walking out of the theaters during the first part of the film in places like Cannes and San Sebastian. In fact, it was added with the purpose of getting this reaction. Thanks for those facts, they were fascinating - especially the last one! I saw this movie in a hotel in Paris the otherweek...I had no idea what it was as I'd missed the credits, and only realised what I'd watched last night after watching Ocean's 12 with a friend who mentioned it (has Vincent Cassel in it). I only realised that it was probably in reverse towards the end of the movie (I was well tired!) so I wanna watch it again now I know the story and it's principle....although I think I'll skip the fire-extinguisher and rape ..... BULLSEYE! | |
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