BabyGirl said:

these things matters enough for you to post about them as much as you have. maybe it does matter to you, perhaps more than it should. or maybe not. i'm just sayin'.

Anxiety said:

You are not stepping on my toes, keep up the goose steps

Anxiety said:

I really dont think the bemoaning of recently banned orgers has anything at all to do with things being quiet in Prince land.

Do you really think that all the friends and fans of someone like 2the9s wouldnt have been bothered with his banning if Prince had a new record out?

I think the mods are not seriously considering these issues if this is the general consensus. I think people are very concerned about all the recent "bannings". It seems banning is not a last resort here, but one invoked very quickly at times.

bkw said:

yeppers

Rhondab said:

you guys arent serious are you? i hope i dont get killed for this but ewm was temp banned 13 times prior.....9's was banned 7 times.....

so please rhondab and bkw....please respond....how are these examples of your theory?

bkw said:

i don't think that 9s would have acted out in the way he did if it were, say, this past july and we were all hyped about the tour and the tv appearances and whatnot. there's a possibility that it may have happened, but the fact is, it didn't. there's a different energy on this FAN site when the person we're here to celebrate is active and throwing out a lot of stuff for us to talk about. when he's between albums and all is quiet on the paisley front, we start getting bored and restless and we start grousing about stupid shit and the whole "idle hands are a devil's playground" cliche comes home to roost on our computer keyboards. it happened all last year when prince was keeping a low profile. it happened before RAVE came out. it's just how people get when we don't have a lot of new prince stuff to keep us busy.

of course i think people would have been upset if 9s had gotten banned in the summer during all the prince hoopla. my point is, the majority of us - including 9s - were too distracted by HAVING FUN to really want to behave in a way that would get us banned, so it didn't happen.

this is a little off topic, but...



isn't CokeJohnson a different way of saying Limp Dick...



discuss amongst yourselves...

Anxiety said:

I think 2the9s would have reacted the same way even if Prince was sitting on his living room sofa. i.e he objected to a comment that had personal significance. Album or no album.

However, I do understand the point you are making in terms of all of us having something new to talk about. With regard to 9s though, and in this instance, I dont think this applies Anxiety.

Lleena said:

i think circumstance supports my argument, but i understand and respect your point. i happen to disagree, but i don't think what you're saying is at all without merit.

Anxiety said:

I talked to 2the9s and I told him that I would post any comment he has and here it is. I think it should be allowed to remain as other comments from banned Orgers have remained.





I saw on anther thread that SOS said that 2the9s was banned 7 times
previously. I don't know if that is true or not (I don't know if SOS should
have been saying it), I do know he has been banned a few times well over a
year ago; but if the strikes and bans were all the result of such minor
infractions as this one, over such a long period of time, then this would
seem to be about something else than wanting to maintain a board that is a
pleasant place to come to...

Lleena said:[quote]

Anxiety said:

well, within the context of explaining what happened i think it was okay to say..its not like i was weighing in on if the bans were justified or not...i was simply explaining the evidence that we have to deal with when making these judgement calls....your right in questioning the validity of the previous mod action...and thats actually what we debated in the "backroom"...i only shared the info so that you guys can gain a better understanding of our thought process..many people are claiming that we are jumping the gun and acting too quickly..but thats the furthest from reality...

How's he doin', alright?!

JDINTERACTIVE said:

He's doin really good...PIMP'in and pleasing the ladies as usual

PurpleThunder said:

Dont make me come over there!

JDINTERACTIVE said:

Well you were invited

sosgemini said:

In the case of 2the9s you're going to have to do a hell of alot more convincing because almost no-one is buying it. Every time the whole episode that led to the banning is brought up the worse the decision looks. The only people that seem to support the action are the moderators and tackam. It seems that 99% of the people that give a crap think the decision was heavy handed at the very least.

Just how many of the 7 previous bannings were done by someone other than Ian and/or Matt? What is the common denominator?

Hi B

I was politely asked by Mr CokeJohnson to post this...

As said previously by other orgers...has nuthin to do with me...just doing a favor...actually CJ stole my letter to Santa and I want it back!!

Another letter from the late CokeJohnson:

"It is with great amusement I have been following this thread. Amusing because certain mods wont realize what most of the org population already knows:
there's a strong bias in your moderation.
Examples are abundant, but for the sake of argument let's just look at the thread that got EWM kicked outta here since SOS refered to it:

http://www.prince.org/msg/105/121079

Now there's this orger called MrDespues who seems to be getting away with extensive flaming without getting banned.
Take a look at the thread and judge for yourself..

here's a little sample:
mrdespues said: "Abso-fucking-lutely correct. And myopic &^^%$ like EWM are the majority unfortunately. They won't even take it from someone who has lived in America for 3 years, travelled there 9 times and been to numerous countries around the world as well that they're mistaken about a great many things. YES, I come from Australia. So what?! Does that make me unfit to comment?! Over the years I have LIVED in America a long time! My girlfriend is American and a lot of my friends are! I will probably end up living there!

I have experienced a FUCK LOAD more than you conservative fucks who are so fucking insular you probably never even leave your own State and I firmly believe that American conservatives are for the most part FUCKING MORONS who know SHIT about moving the world forward. They're just stupid cunts who care about their OWN STUPID FUCKING COUNTRY AND NO ONE ELSE. Which is why they are called conservative. Yes I know I may sound arrogant. I don't fucking care. You're just FUCKWITS.
I hope you all choke on your polluted fundamentalist propoganda. Scumbags. "


to which EWM replies:
"You're a fucking comedy routine."

IMO, EWM is showing extreme restraint after being flamed like that.
MrDespues - and others - get away with this offensive behaviour time and time again without getting banned.

That is simply biased and unfair moderating. Why is this flame not snipped? Why is this person not banned long time ago? Why are org mods so inconsistent and biased in their moderation?

I guess it's because ya'll are just human; you play favorites and favour friends over enemies. But at least try to be slightly more objective in your mod actions.

I would be happy if you could refute all of the above assumptions and prove me wrong. After all, no one wants to think that their web site of choice is run in such an inconsistent way, now would they?

- CJ
_____

2the9s said:


I think my comments are being taken out of context, 9s. (and if you don't mind, I'll just respond directly to you as if you weren't banned, because you're clearly still reading the boards and it's apparently okay for you to still post, as long as another orger is "quoting" you)

Personally, I haven't gone through your recent banning with a fine tooth comb. I know there was some back and forth with you and Matt, and it led to you getting banned. That's all I know. That, and a lot of what happened was carried out in the forums. That's what I define as "acting out". It's a decision you made, and you may have thought you were doing the right thing and that shouldn't be dismissed or belittled - but there were consequences to it and them's the breaks sometimes.

I think my point about this not happening over the summer during all the Prince activity was also taken out of context. I'm just saying that we're all on a fan site of a pop star, and that pop star is taking a break between projects right now, and after a year full of events and activity, we're getting bored and restless and it's the freakin' internet so of course we're gonna start griping at each other when there's nothing else to do. That's my point. It has nothing to do with Prince sitting on people's sofas or being "worried" about this that or the other. It's just about damn idle hands and boredom. And on top of that, we'd just had a really volatile, polarizing election so that was more kindling for the fire.

Really, 9s, I was commenting more on the circumstances than I was commenting on your character or even on your behavior. I'm not sure why you're taking such exception to my comments, but I apologize if they rubbed you the wrong way or if I wasn't clear enough. When I talk about us getting cabin fever during the so-called "fallow months", I'm addressing us all. Hell - me included.

Was asked to post the following responses.


Anxiety said:[quote]



When Matt banned me he said that my log-in privileges were revoked, that's
right Anxiety. He didn't say that I was to disappear off the face of the
earth. It obvious to everyone I still read the boards so I don't see the
point of your paranthetical comment. Maybe you need to add more fine print
to the rules. You have not made this comment either to Coke (whose thread we
are currently jacking) or EWM or anyone else.





That's what I'm saying. Stop adding to the situation by roping me into
irrelevant scenarios. You haven't gone over my sitaution with a fine toothed
comb and yet you are capable of commenting on whether or not I have "cabin
fever"?

I dread what goes on In Camera.

PurpleThunder said:

Yes, Yes. That's what I was thinking as well. There were posts on that thread that were MUCH more abusive. There is a profound tendency to group bash certain individuals on this site. It's sad to see, sad that it is basic human nature to do so as well.

. This stuff is so boring. + every time there's a bait thread like this setup (yeh, i know i don't have to read it, comment, or even be here)... everyone get's up & goose steps. You guy's love picking at sores. Get over it. Surely there's more to life than this .
* MERRY CHRISTMAS ORGER'S *

.
Get Wild, Come .

9s, my response wasn't meant to be antagonistic in the least, but your words are becoming more and more hostile and unnecessarily defensive.

So.

As long as we mod-types are being mean, unfair, discriminatory, irrational, fascist ass raisins, I might as well just lock up this thread.

Furthermore, I think we all need to knock it off with people posting "on behalf of" other people. Banned means banned. From now on, when someone posts "on behalf of" someone else in the forums, those posts go to the great Org beyond. Period. And if you want to find clever ways to get around that, we'll respond appropriately. Got a problem with that? Orgnote me.


To review:

1. No more posting "on behalf of" banned orgers. It's just creating more bad vibes, and the responses on this thread have made it clear to me that it's doing nothing but dredging up more unnecessary drama. So it stops. Now.

2. No more "it's an outrage!" threads about banned orgers. Wanna complain? Org note the person who owns the site or the people he's enlisted to voluntarily run it. These threads will be removed ASAP. Period.

3. No more assuming the mods don't know what the common wishes and perceptions are on here, and that we aren't doing something about it. We are. When it becomes your business, you'll hear about what's going on.