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Mystics Can Pocket a Million

Mystics Can Pocket a Million - When Pigs Can Fly



STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - A sworn enemy of superstition, Canadian-born magician James Randi has thrown down the gauntlet to mystics, promising $1 million to anyone who can prove supernatural powers or a phenomenon beyond the reach of science.



An arch-skeptic who demonstrates with his own sleight of hand how easily it is to dupe the gullible into mistaking trickery for the supernatural, the bearded 76-year-old has written nine books and lectured at the White House, NASA (news - web sites) and several top U.S. universities.


The million-dollar "paranormal challenge" lends publicity to Randi's life-long mission.


His pursuit of skepticism was sparked by a visit to a spiritualist church in his native Toronto when he was just 15.


Already an amateur magician, he was upset at seeing "common tricks" pass for divine intervention. But his attempts at enlightening the churchgoers cost him four hours questioning at the police station.


Sixty years on, Randi is still trying to persuade people to give up their belief in mystic forces beyond their control.


"It's a very dangerous thing to believe in nonsense. You're giving away your money to the charlatans, you're giving away your emotional security, and sometimes your life," he explained in an interview before giving a lecture in Stockholm.


A MAN OBSESSED


Deeply concerned with the spread of beliefs not based on the principles of science, Randi is especially worried about the growing popularity of exotic cures and therapies catering to sick people who are then lured away from effective treatments.


"It's a mission, and also an obsession," he said.


The challenge also serves to dent the image of professional psychics, as they so far have balked at the chance to win the million.


"They offer all kinds of strange excuses," he said.


On a European tour of Germany, Italy, Ireland, Belgium and Sweden, Randi tested people who wanted to go for his million. Most applicants sincerely believe they have supernatural gifts, the vast majority claiming to possess the power of dowsing -- the ability to detect water with the help of a cleft stick.


Dowsing has never been proved to work in a controlled setting, said Randi.


"But no one ever changes their mind," he said, recalling only one single case throughout the years where a man backed down from his claim after being tested.


At a lecture to promote critical thinking, a Swedish audience of about 300 applauded and laughed as Randi blasted away at astrologers, homeopathists, faith healers and psychic mediums, accusing them of defrauding the sick and the desperate.


Riddling his performance with tricks -- divining the symbols on cards put in an envelope by an apparently randomly chosen audience member -- Randi says his own expertise at "magic" helps him expose fraudsters.





"As a magician I know two things -- how to deceive people and how people deceive themselves."

OFFENDING SPOON-BENDERS

On one particular night Randi was in the company of hundreds of cheering fellow skeptics, but not everyone appreciated seeing their beliefs shattered.

"I get threats all the time. I don't answer the door unless I know who's there," he said.

His most famous adversary is Uri Geller, the Israeli psychic who became a celebrity in the '70s for bending spoons. Geller sued him for libel for his book "The Truth About Uri Geller." It has cost Randi a fortune in legal fees, but he has not yet been able to get the book removed from the shelves.

Randi demonstrated to a reporter how he too is capable of mystically mistreating cutlery, but as a magic trick.

He carefully pointed out that he does not deny Geller might have supernatural talent -- just as he does not rule out the existence of supernatural phenomena.

"If Geller does it by divine power, he does it the hard way," he said.

Randi said he would be happy to hand over the prize if presented with solid evidence.

"That would be such an advance for our knowledge of the universe that it would be well worth $1 million," he said. "The possibility is very, very small, but it's there."

The prospects for the mystically minded don't look too rosy, though. The James Randi Educational Foundation, based in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, has tested hundreds of applicants. But no one has ever passed even the preliminary tests.

On the lapel of his jacket, Randi wears a pin with the mascot of the organization, a winged pig called Pigasus.

"We say that we will give away the million dollars when pigs can fly."
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Reply #1 posted 12/07/04 4:13am

Lleena

(Reuters) - A sworn enemy of superstition, Canadian-born magician James Randi has thrown down the gauntlet to mystics, promising $1 million to anyone who can prove supernatural powers or a phenomenon beyond the reach of science.


Right then, how about I make Meekle's pants disappear..oh hang on..he doesn't wear any.
hmmm

Okay, I'm going to make subhuman magically appear on this thread!

~Using my telepathic powers to Channel Subby~
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Reply #2 posted 12/07/04 4:17am

subhuman09

Lottery numbers...are you getting any lottery numbers?
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Reply #3 posted 12/07/04 4:19am

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I have always loved this guy, he presents such solid aguments. I might have to go and pick up one of his books.

Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard!
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Reply #4 posted 12/07/04 4:21am

Lleena

subhuman09 said:

Lottery numbers...are you getting any lottery numbers?



I'm getting .....six...and four....and hold on, what's this?.....toilet paper?....

What the.....eek
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Reply #5 posted 12/07/04 4:21am

subhuman09

Lleena said:

subhuman09 said:

Lottery numbers...are you getting any lottery numbers?



I'm getting .....six...and four....and hold on, what's this?.....toilet paper?....

What the.....eek


That damn penguin is making togas again!!!

mad
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Reply #6 posted 12/07/04 4:24am

Lleena

subhuman09 said:

Lleena said:




I'm getting .....six...and four....and hold on, what's this?.....toilet paper?....

What the.....eek


That damn penguin is making togas again!!!

mad



I think I should claim the million pounds since I have proved beyond reasonable doubt that telepathy works!
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Reply #7 posted 12/07/04 4:26am

subhuman09

Lleena said:

subhuman09 said:



That damn penguin is making togas again!!!

mad



I think I should claim the million pounds since I have proved beyond reasonable doubt that telepathy works!


As long as you buy me dinner first.

...and get 9s a new journal to write in.

biggrin
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Reply #8 posted 12/07/04 4:28am

lollyp0p

He once challanged homeopathy (sp) and won when a very very well respected french scientist claimed he had discovered the memory of water which could explain homeopathy

he disproved this but was critisised for making the double/quadrupile blind study a circus.
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Reply #9 posted 12/07/04 4:29am

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lollyp0p said:

He once challanged homeopathy (sp) and won when a very very well respected french scientist claimed he had discovered the memory of water which could explain homeopathy

he disproved this but was critisised for making the double/quadrupile blind study a circus.



I think I saw that on a "Horizon" on Homeopathy (water has memory giggle )
Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard!
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Reply #10 posted 12/07/04 4:31am

lollyp0p

PREDOMINANT said:

lollyp0p said:

He once challanged homeopathy (sp) and won when a very very well respected french scientist claimed he had discovered the memory of water which could explain homeopathy

he disproved this but was critisised for making the double/quadrupile blind study a circus.



I think I saw that on a "Horizon" on Homeopathy (water has memory giggle )


YES

they repeated the "famous" experiment on horizon giggle you know you sound like a geek now for watching Horizon hah! predominant
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Reply #11 posted 12/07/04 4:34am

PREDOMINANT

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lollyp0p said:

PREDOMINANT said:




I think I saw that on a "Horizon" on Homeopathy (water has memory giggle )


YES

they repeated the "famous" experiment on horizon giggle you know you sound like a geek now for watching Horizon hah! predominant



Proud to be a geek

You confirmed it hah!
Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard!
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Reply #12 posted 12/07/04 4:39am

Lleena

subhuman09 said:

Lleena said:




I think I should claim the million pounds since I have proved beyond reasonable doubt that telepathy works!


As long as you buy me dinner first.

...and get 9s a new journal to write in.

biggrin



Macdonalds? big grin

I'll give 9sey my old bus tickets and he can use those.
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Reply #13 posted 12/07/04 4:40am

subhuman09

Lleena said:

subhuman09 said:



As long as you buy me dinner first.

...and get 9s a new journal to write in.

biggrin



Macdonalds? big grin

I'll give 9sey my old bus tickets and he can use those.


If I can have a Butterfinger McFlurry, sure.

Wow-bus tickets, you spoil that guy.

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Reply #14 posted 12/07/04 4:47am

lollyp0p

PREDOMINANT said:

lollyp0p said:



YES

they repeated the "famous" experiment on horizon giggle you know you sound like a geek now for watching Horizon hah! predominant



Proud to be a geek

You confirmed it hah!


boxed I'm a closet nerd redface
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