So a few days ago, I woke up with a pain in my lower neck, just above the shoulder blades. I didn't think anything of it, other than I've just been working crazy hours (about 15-20 hour days for about three weeks strait now. I probably just needed some sleep.

Well, I thought I did that over the weekend, but the pain kept getting worse and worse. Today, the pain was so bad, it felt like pins and needles all down my left arm. "This ain't good", I thought. In the process of complaining to my co-workers today, they suggested a massage treatment. I did a google search for my local area and several came up. Three businesses listed as being open till 9PM. This one had the pretty website, so I went with them: http://www.ultimatebodymassage.com/

My wife had the car today and was running late picking me up from work. I have a late night at the studio so I needed to pick one fast. Of course, I went with the pretty website. I tell her again about the pain in my neck and that I'm going to get a rub down before going back to work. I asked her a few times if she could work out the now swolen side of my lower neck, but like me, she's had a good long day with the kids and she's just not up to it. She asked me how much it cost, and I told her 40 bucks for the half hour "sport massage". She seemed cool with it.

I rush to make my 8PM appointment and I'm met with an attractive french lady. She calls someone on the phone to let them know I had arrived. I walk in and wait in the front room that was well decored with candles and all that feel good stuff. She takes me to a room and tells me to get undressed. OK, I figured. This is what your supposed to do right? I get undressed, wrap the towel around me and lay on the table. She comes in and and askes me if I have any problem areas. I tell her about my lower neck and she gets to work.

About 10 minutes into my half hour session, she tells me that she is the only one there at that hour and if I wanted a full hour she would have to call in and ask for permission. I tell her that it's ok, I just needed my lower neck worked on. Seriously, this week, I have a lot of work to push out and today was so painful, that I barely got much done because I just couldn't get past the sharp pain going down my arm.

She works on the problem area for about 20 minutes, when she askes me to flip over so she could work on the front. I'm thinking, "Ok, this is procedure". I flip over. She continues to work on the problem area and then my arms, my hands, my feet, then works up my legs and inner thighs. Now this is starting to feel pretty sensual. Ok. I'm feeling a little weird now with my stuff starting to grow. I start to say something appologetic, with the noticable "pup-tent" and all... But she stops me and said something like "It's ok, it happens to most men, don't worry about it, I'm used to it".

About 5 minutes into that, she's getting a little closer to the main package. Before, I could say "Stop" she had two strokes in, and I was... uh, read on. Now I usually pride myself with my wife in having logevity, but with two strokes, I had a... What did Prince say? "Came a Butterfly strait on my skin"... She smiled and wiped a towel over my belly. She ends the session with a smile and says she'll meet me in the front office when I'm dressed. I'm just sitting there with a FREAKED OUT LOOK ON MY FACE as if "what the hell just happend???

I get dressed, go to the front office, and she asks for 80 bucks for the half hour session and invites me to come back anytime. Oh yeah, and if I was hungry. I said no. I didn't argue. I gave her the 80 bucks, and I was out the door. I went to the studio, fired up the computers, and wrote what you just read.

WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED?
I feel like I just cheated on my wife, yet not really, because I also feel a little violated. Then again, very satisfied. I DON'T KNOW. It looked like a legit place. Maybe it was and she was looking for a little extra, being the closing person, and no one else was there.

I feel a bit ashamed because I'm very devoted to my wife and kids.

I'm also laughing because I feel had, and I don't get "had" very easy. Whatever the case, I don't feel I could tell my wife what just happened and expect a sypothetic response. Did I let it happen? I can't seem to answer that. That's what bothers me.
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WOW

I would say that she violated you. But, because you "finished" I don't know if you'd have a legit complaint against her.

Not complaining to anyone but myself.

CanvasBeauty said:

I would agree.

As for the rest, wow. I guess it's between you and your wife. Tough one.

i would sit your wife down, watch a few episodes of "curb your enthusiasm" with her, and when her ability to digest bizarre happenstance is all nice and relaxed, tell her the story.

Sounds like she was being a bit too helpful in trying to relax you.

What was this girls phone number again?

althom said:

Bad robut!!!

You hooked up with a hooker. No reputable massage therapist does this service. Since you didn't know that all this would happen, its your call whether to tell your wife, really an accident on your part. Next time you get a pain in the neck try a chiropractor or ask your doctor to reccomend an accreditted massage therapist. Your Dr. can also give you a cortisone shot that will last for a long time.

shellyevon said:

Generally, it's easy to tell which "massage" providers are in the business of providing therapeutic massage and which are basically fronts for prostitution. There are a few people who become certified massage therapists and get into the business of offering "erotic massage," but they're in the minority. Most massage establishments fall squarely into one category.

I looked at the website for the studio in question, and at first glance, it seems like a legit place. The one "red flag" is this statement: "Discounts available for female clients."

Anyway, here's my take on the situation.

1) "Cheating" is intentionally or knowingly doing something that violates the "rules" agreed to by you and your partner(s).

2) yamomma went in good faith to what seemed, at least on the surface, to be a therapeutic massage business. He did so to treat a problem (pain) for which massage therapy can be appropriate and effective.

3) I'm told that it's common for men to get erect during even a non-sexual therapeutic massage... it's a normal physiological response.

4) The therapist got him off with two strokes, before he even had a chance to object.

5) Conclusion: there was no cheating on yamomma's part, as he did not obtain the "happy ending" either intentionally or knowingly. Although our society tends not to recognize the concept of a man being "violated" by a woman, I think that's what happened here. In fact, the therapist's act of providing a "happy ending" without consent may constitute a crime.

I suppose that ideally, yamomma would be able to tell his wife, and she would be understanding about the situation. I'm also very aware that some partners would not react well upon hearing a story like this. There may not be an easy answer to this situation.

In retrospect, it seems that one of two things happened here. Either yamomma unknowingly went to a establishment that sells erotic massage (while being very discreet about it), or it was a legit massage business that has a rogue employee.

One other thing I find interesting: yamomma was quoted $40 for a half-hour massage. He then upgraded to an $80 one-hour massage, but actually got a half-hour massage with a "happy ending." That's consistent in two ways with the business practices of sexual "massage" establishments:

1) The going rate for a hand job is a $40 "tip."

2) The session ends when the client "ends."

Again, I don't think yamomma did anything wrong. But if his wife doesn't approve of him getting a hand job from another woman, then a return visit to this particular establishment would, IMHO, be cheating, now that he knows what really goes on there.

On a lighter note... before I read this thread, I checked today's mail and found that I'd received the "New Member Guide" for the health care plan I just joined. The booklet mentions that massage therapy is available at a discounted rate for members of my plan. I jokingly asked Melissa, "So, do you think there's a discount on a 'happy ending' as well?"

matt said:

I'd agree with nearly everything you said, except for maybe the above statement.
I only know that if I were getting a massage to work on my neck, the second I felt contact anywhere near, shall I say, an inapproriate area it would be over. I would likely scream at the person then I'd probably talk to the management.
I guess the question is, if yamomma feels confident he couldn't have stopped her, then yeah, I'd say nothing to worry about. The violation is clear to begin with. It's a matter of could he have stopped her from going any further. If he feels he couldn't have, I think that'd be good enough for me.

CarrieMpls said:

Well, I'm taking yomamma at his word on this issue. Knowing how I respond to unexpected things, I could see myself reacting either way. Sometimes I respond so quickly that it seems instinctive. Other times, especially when I'm caught totally off-guard, it can take me a few seconds to comprehend what's going on and respond.

well, this is a very interesting photo for a massage place.




these are medical people.... professional people ... does that look professional ?????
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Yamomma i had a similar problem; neck and left arm pain, going on for around 4 weeks. Was due to doing too much, and playing guitar. I went to a Chiropractor !

http://www.prince.org/msg/15/123132

Didn't get the type of treatment you got though, you dog!
Dunno if your familiar with the T.V. show "Curb your enthusiasm" (oops ! just noticed Anxiety's post )
starring Larry David; but he had the exact same experience as you when his manager refered him to 'his' massage therapist.Larry was hilarious , after about 3 strokes he was up and out of there! The fact that you are put into a state of intense relaxation by the massage, dissipation of all that stress, makes it easy to understand how this event turned out as it did.I wouldn't feel too bad about it, but if your wife reads this thread she may get pissed, so probably should tell her . Being 'had' was due to being in pain and vulnerable .

Well by the time the area was touched it was at the 30 minute mark and I was almost asleep. Again, two strokes, and uh oh... 15-20 hour days for the last three weeks have really gotten me to a walking zombie state anyway.

Now I felt pressure from the towel resting over my privates. I was covered the whole time. Just like the time I visited a chiropractor. Normal procedure, right? About the time I started to drift, I felt a little extra pressure down there and as I started to sit up. Tick, tick, bang bang. (all over me) Didn't enjoy that part. Really. I didn't ask for it, neither was I offered THAT service.

My first mistake was not waiting until today to visit a chiropractor. I felt so frickin' miserable by the end of the day yesterday, that I just wanted to get it fixed right then and there. I looked on line and they, along with two other places, were open until 9:00. Should have sucked it up and waited until today.


Ok...
Last night, I thought it was pretty shocking and on the flip side, kinda funny that I would even allow myself in that situation.

NOW IT'S JUST EMBARRACING.
Please delete this thread Matt.
Lesson learned.

nakedpianoplayer said:

Do a search for day spas, massage therapy, etc... Most of them seem to have that look.

nakedpianoplayer said:

Why not? There's nothing unusual about receiving a therapeutic massage while nude. My spa says on its website, "Undress to your level of comfort...." While I've never gotten a massage there, I highly doubt they provide "happy endings."

Also, note that the picture is a side view, with neither the model's breasts nor her genital area visible. It's not even close to pornography.

matt said:

The funny thing is I didn't ask for it nor was it offered. It happened just like I wrote it down here immeditely after it happened. When I called and made the appointment I asked for the service listed on the site: http://www.ultimatebodyma...rvices.htm

Half-Session - (20-30 mins.)
• Therapeutic Massage
• for $40*

When I left she asked for 80 bucks. Out of embarassment, I just gave her the money and bolted out of there. I wasn't about to argue because I felt stupid enough already. I guess the old saying is true: "You pay for your education".

well, i certainly didnt mean it as a rude thing to say about you...i was only saying that the picture didnt look to professional, ya know ? certainly, i think you were taken for more money, and im sorry that it made you feel the way you did.... my appologies for sounding as if i wasnt on your side.

• for $40*

Maybe that's what * is there for.
I dunno. I DO KNOW that I didn't ask for the session to be upgraded.

Ah... I'm going to put this to rest. Stupid me for being naive.

i am really guarded on what i can/should say here ( Org ) and all

just expressing feelings is all

you paid extra to be raped

maybe

please say you called the better business dept in your area and made a complaint

or that you called the manager there at least

cuz doing nothing ... then seems like a BIG no no... specially if you arnt going to tell your wife about the event ...





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Mach said:

i didnt think of it that way.... OMG im so sorry

Wow, a real story of a rub and tug, interesting.

Why do you think she asked you if you were hungry? Was she gong to make you a sandwhich or was she asking you to dinner?

I can't help but , the whole thing just amuses me for some reason. I think it's the 2 stroke thing, some skills this french woman has.

I'm goiong to be in Sarasota at Christmas, how far of a drive is it to W. Palm?

I would NOT tell your wife about this if I were you.

It'll just cause undue emotional stress for her. She may see it as a great offense. I know I'd be PISSED! Keep it in the closet.

Slave2daGroove said:

I don't know. I didn't stick around to ask.



Yeah, I kinda laughed it off too at first, but knowing someone other than my wife touched my thang, even though through the towel, feels dirty this morning.

Yup, you had the massage with the happy ending, there all over near military bases, not that I know anything about that.

gemini13 said:

I've tossed this around in my head all morning. I'm thinking your right. I think I'll tell my son down the road as one of those "life lessons" kinda thing. I know my Dad had 100's of these types of stories. I remember always thinking how the heck did he get in those situations?

Moving on. (damn, I feel stupid)

""Yeah, I kinda laughed it off too at first, but knowing someone other than my wife touched my thang, even though through the towel, feels dirty this morning""


Oh hun

prolly will feel even worse before you begin to heal

damn ...