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Thread started 11/23/04 6:27am

mdiver

Help needed

Ok guys time for an org poll.

I have been approached by another business and they have asked if I want to sell up my business to them. The great thing is that they are offering me 50% equity in the new combined business, a good package and huge financial backing to grow things. I am really tempted.
What do you guys reckon?
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Reply #1 posted 11/23/04 6:29am

XxAxX

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go for it. that's what i say. but the most important thing is to ask yourself:


what would eddie murphy do?
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Reply #2 posted 11/23/04 6:30am

mdiver

XxAxX said:

go for it. that's what i say. but the most important thing is to ask yourself:


what would eddie murphy do?


That is a question I had not yet asked myself, I will ponder it for a while and let you know what I think
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Reply #3 posted 11/23/04 6:32am

XxAxX

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mdiver said:

XxAxX said:

go for it. that's what i say. but the most important thing is to ask yourself:


what would eddie murphy do?


That is a question I had not yet asked myself, I will ponder it for a while and let you know what I think



i'm glad i could help. i often ask myself this questions and so far the insights i've received have been nothing but helpful.
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Reply #4 posted 11/23/04 6:37am

endorphin74

hmmm

do the benefits outweigh the (assumed) loss of control you'd experience by selling-up? If so, then DO IT!
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Reply #5 posted 11/23/04 6:38am

endorphin74

XxAxX said:

mdiver said:



That is a question I had not yet asked myself, I will ponder it for a while and let you know what I think



i'm glad i could help. i often ask myself this questions and so far the insights i've received have been nothing but helpful.


giggle

y'all are SILLY!
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Reply #6 posted 11/23/04 6:40am

PREDOMINANT

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confuse Buisness?? You are asking the wrong people lol I say that if they want to buy you there are two reasons - 1. they see future potential for growth with your company and want to get their sticy mits on it. 2. They see you as a threat and want to eliminate that thread by joining.

Both indicate you are doing ok as you are.

But what do i know.....dunce
Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard!
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Reply #7 posted 11/23/04 6:48am

mdiver

endorphin74 said:

hmmm

do the benefits outweigh the (assumed) loss of control you'd experience by selling-up? If so, then DO IT!


Most definately yes. I actually am 50-50 owner of 2 businesses and they are currently going in different directions so actually the plan is to trade off my 50% of the business I want for the 50% of the business I don't want. No cost to me and I am then 100% owner of the one I do want. I then sell 50% in effect of my business to these guys. So in actuality I get a lump sum, security and I still own myoriginal 50% so I can see no drawbacks...as yet
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Reply #8 posted 11/23/04 6:51am

PREDOMINANT

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mdiver said:

endorphin74 said:

hmmm

do the benefits outweigh the (assumed) loss of control you'd experience by selling-up? If so, then DO IT!


Most definately yes. I actually am 50-50 owner of 2 businesses and they are currently going in different directions so actually the plan is to trade off my 50% of the business I want for the 50% of the business I don't want. No cost to me and I am then 100% owner of the one I do want. I then sell 50% in effect of my business to these guys. So in actuality I get a lump sum, security and I still own myoriginal 50% so I can see no drawbacks...as yet



Thats a different story? But wouldn't it be better still to just keep the new 50% and be 100% in control?
Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard!
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Reply #9 posted 11/23/04 6:54am

abierman

XxAxX said:

go for it. that's what i say. but the most important thing is to ask yourself:


what would eddie murphy do?


and if Eddie doesn't answer, ask Brian Boitano.....
[Edited 11/23/04 7:05am]
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Reply #10 posted 11/23/04 6:58am

mdiver

PREDOMINANT said:

mdiver said:



Most definately yes. I actually am 50-50 owner of 2 businesses and they are currently going in different directions so actually the plan is to trade off my 50% of the business I want for the 50% of the business I don't want. No cost to me and I am then 100% owner of the one I do want. I then sell 50% in effect of my business to these guys. So in actuality I get a lump sum, security and I still own myoriginal 50% so I can see no drawbacks...as yet



Thats a different story? But wouldn't it be better still to just keep the new 50% and be 100% in control?


Possibly and that is my dilemma but the way I see it is that I am no worse off,in fact I am better off as I have a lump sum (at 32 that aint bad) and the financial backing of a bigger company/partner to grow the business as I see fit.
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Reply #11 posted 11/23/04 6:58am

mdiver

abierman said:

XxAxX said:

go for it. that's what i say. but the most important thing is to ask yourself:


what would eddie murphy do?


and if Eddie doesn't answer, ask Brian Botano.....


I need to watch South Park it will focus me wink
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Reply #12 posted 11/23/04 6:59am

Ace

mdiver said:

Ok guys time for an org poll.

I have been approached by another business and they have asked if I want to sell up my business to them. The great thing is that they are offering me 50% equity in the new combined business, a good package and huge financial backing to grow things. I am really tempted.
What do you guys reckon?

So many variables here. My main concern would be loss of control to an entity that may or may not steer the business well. 50% of nothing = nothing.
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Reply #13 posted 11/23/04 7:00am

Mach

gaze into this crystal ball ...

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Reply #14 posted 11/23/04 7:01am

mdiver

Ace said:

mdiver said:

Ok guys time for an org poll.

I have been approached by another business and they have asked if I want to sell up my business to them. The great thing is that they are offering me 50% equity in the new combined business, a good package and huge financial backing to grow things. I am really tempted.
What do you guys reckon?

So many variables here. My main concern would be loss of control to an entity that may or may not steer the business well. 50% of nothing = nothing.


These guys are not some schmoes off the street. I have worked with them for 5 years and know them very well. The last business they had sold for 75million inside 5 years
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Reply #15 posted 11/23/04 7:02am

mdiver

Mach said:

gaze into this crystal ball ...



All I see is my own blood shot eyes
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Reply #16 posted 11/23/04 7:03am

Mach

mdiver said:

Mach said:

gaze into this crystal ball ...



All I see is my own blood shot eyes



damn ... that sux

hug

SELL SELL SELL .. then

lol
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Reply #17 posted 11/23/04 7:05am

mdiver

Mach said:

mdiver said:



All I see is my own blood shot eyes



damn ... that sux

hug

SELL SELL SELL .. then

lol


Thanks sweetie hows tricks?
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Reply #18 posted 11/23/04 7:10am

Mach

mdiver said:

Mach said:




damn ... that sux

hug

SELL SELL SELL .. then

lol


Thanks sweetie hows tricks?


eek OMG

i forgot about my TRICKS

damn


lol

life is great ... hows U ? ..

oh yeah ...blood shot eyes

confused
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Reply #19 posted 11/23/04 7:12am

mdiver

Mach said:

mdiver said:



Thanks sweetie hows tricks?


eek OMG

i forgot about my TRICKS

damn


lol

life is great ... hows U ? ..

oh yeah ...blood shot eyes

confused


Doin good but worried about which way to jump!
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Reply #20 posted 11/23/04 7:25am

ella731

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You should probably consult a lawyer that deals with this kind of things, have him look over the proposal and see what the deal actually entitles, there is more than like more to it than you think.

It sounds like a sweet deal, but I would be ever so cautious especially when it comes to big businesses.

Good Luck!
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Reply #21 posted 11/23/04 7:32am

mdiver

ella731 said:

You should probably consult a lawyer that deals with this kind of things, have him look over the proposal and see what the deal actually entitles, there is more than like more to it than you think.

It sounds like a sweet deal, but I would be ever so cautious especially when it comes to big businesses.

Good Luck!


You think like me, that is already in motion, if I do this all the t's will be crossed and the i's dotted. I have been ripped off before
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Reply #22 posted 11/23/04 7:35am

Ace

mdiver said:

These guys are not some schmoes off the street. I have worked with them for 5 years and know them very well. The last business they had sold for 75million inside 5 years

If you are confident that they are right for this business, then I think you have your answer.
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Reply #23 posted 11/23/04 7:41am

mdiver

Ace said:

mdiver said:

These guys are not some schmoes off the street. I have worked with them for 5 years and know them very well. The last business they had sold for 75million inside 5 years

If you are confident that they are right for this business, then I think you have your answer.


Thanks mate your input is helpful
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Reply #24 posted 11/23/04 7:48am

Ace

mdiver said:

Thanks mate your input is helpful

Keep in mind that, as somebody posted above, they obviously see a great potential in your biz and perhaps you don't need them to accomplish the growth they are foreseeing. Remember that they aren't in it out of the kindess of their own hearts. Perhaps you might want to try negotiating a deal that gives you more control?
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Reply #25 posted 11/23/04 7:49am

teller

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Just be prepared to lose control--and possibly watch the business go in some direction against your good judgment. I've had partners that drove the company off the road, straight over a cliff, and into the toilet. I couldn't stop them because I didn't own the majority of shares. But people and circumstances vary...I suppose a lot of it has to do with trust.

confused
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #26 posted 11/23/04 7:52am

mdiver

Ace said:

mdiver said:

Thanks mate your input is helpful

Keep in mind that, as somebody posted above, they obviously see a great potential in your biz and perhaps you don't need them to accomplish the growth they are foreseeing. Remember that they aren't in it out of the kindess of their own hearts. Perhaps you might want to try negotiating a deal that gives you more control?


Yes that thought has crossed my mind. Although I (and they) seem to view this more as a merger to strengthen both businesses than as a takeover.That is why I am interested plus there is no way that I can grow the business as I want to without a major cash injection so that is a consideration. However one thing I will not do is be in any less of a position than at least 50% owner
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Reply #27 posted 11/23/04 8:13am

Ace

mdiver said:

there is no way that I can grow the business as I want to without a major cash injection

Keep in mind that you might be able to raise this cash from an alternate source.
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Reply #28 posted 11/23/04 8:17am

mdiver

Ace said:

mdiver said:

there is no way that I can grow the business as I want to without a major cash injection

Keep in mind that you might be able to raise this cash from an alternate source.


Yes that is a possibility
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