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Reply #60 posted 12/05/04 7:21pm

kiss85

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Number23 said:

Truly, I admire your faith. But you're not speaking to an ignoramus here, kiss. I've read, studied and digested this book, fell madly in love with Jesus' words myself and continually attempted to apply them to the madness surrounding me, my friends, family and loved ones.
Not that I believe this man was the 'Son of God' or the Earthbound personification of some faceless creator, of course. I just like his vibe.
But just for debate's sake, here's a wee flash of the Bible's crippled legs, and just how they trip each other up every step along the path to 'truth'.....

I've read every word, plain and clear. Of course, this doesn't sway me one bit. wink

Okay, I only replied to this thread to 'answer' your question, NOT to debate and to try and dissect every Bible verse we find problems with. But it's obvious that my attempt was unsuccessful. But I ain't mad at cha. To each his own.

But I don't have anything else to say on this thread. I hope you find your answer.
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They did WHAT??!.... disbelief
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Reply #61 posted 12/08/04 10:58pm

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Number23 said:

Maybe reality is as horrific and faceless as it doesn't ever pretend it isn't. A pretty face, of course. Bleeding cancerclusts, full tumours of fear, cracking open black over all silly human notions of 'beauty' and 'truth'. This fear knaws.The scar everyone sees but nobody mentions. The burns victim in everyone. Fields full of boxes and forgotten flesh. My God. Such silly vanity, an astheically-pleasing coffin. Ha. Something's laughing. Laughter is food, so foolish, so wrong. From our cruel creator, this wise father/mother, this blinding truth, there is silence. Oh God.

My parents didn't know what to say when I was five years old and woke up crying on the couch because I had a dream where they both died. I asked them if they would die one day. Why they had to die. Why were they going to leave me. The stone belly horror everything ends. I remember well. Cancerous, every memory toxic. Oh God.

Maybe, one day, my own children will ask me what answers lie outside this burning box we all fit so comfortably into, laughing, joking, forgetting, hiding, lying, making love, spitting in the face of truth and the unquenchable fear that one day, everyone and everything we know and love will be no more, every friend, every lover, every pet, our children will die, our grandchildren, and eventually, then, 100 years or so, we'll all be truly gone, not even a thought or a voice underneath someone's skull. Absolutely forgotten. Pointless. Why live to fall asleep, over and over and over and over again? Oh God.

I want to believe in something now. Truth, find me. Set me free.

NUMBER 23: You make LIFE sound so depressing, and even MORE so....the END. If U want THE TRUTH check out the TRUTH that the JW'S HAVE. All it is is THE BIBLE- THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION. It has the answers 2 everything...and so does the religion. I'm still only in study, BUT I LOVE it ALL. I NEVER knew of a religion that explains things so thoroughly, with BIBLE study and the study of GOD & JESUS....period. The people are amazingly THE BEST. I never knew I could be SO CLOSE 2 GOD. He's done so much 4 me recently. U R searching. Give HIM and the witnesses a try. IF U truly want the truth and peace and salvation, and HIS promise of EVERLASTING LIFE ( where if we truly love HIM and have faith, and follow his guidance and ask 4 forgiveness ), U will inherit it from HIM and continue 2 live in a NEW WORLD that promises a paradise, no suffering, no illness, just the perfection that adam & eve lost when they listened 2 the resistor. God didnt them them sinners...they did....and thy R are ancestors. But the happiest thing is... fear not death....as with it comes paradise. We shall see our loved ones and live 4ever, as long as we deserve this immense GIFT from the one TRUE GOD. He will not save intentional sinners, allthough we ALL R. Sinners who do not repent, and have a good loving/fearful relationship with our REAL and ONLY father. Its not 2 late... YET. Join the ones who R happy and @ peace. PEACE & LOVE 2 U. If u need 2 talk 2 me further on ur issues, I'd B happy 2. Just org note me. U seem very bewildered and confused & in need of GOD.
May the BELLS ring 4 U even when ur not in love. hug kisses
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Reply #62 posted 12/30/04 8:56pm

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Number23 said:

sinisterpentatonic said:


smile Hi you.

"My belief in God makes me happy and if we're all wrong, then so what? At least I lived a happy life with my beliefs. In the end, it doesn't matter." - PRINCE, 1981.

.....two wrongs don't make a right.....



In order for a being to do evil they must first believe that what they are doing is good. All is good. As an artist, one always shoulda, woulda, couldaz oneself...for the better. Honestly. The End.
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... would you run to me if somebody hurt you, even if that somebody was me?
Welcome to "the org", NewFace… they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end.
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