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Last Night's America's-Next-Flop-Model Lesson

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Reply #1 posted 11/11/04 11:53am

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havent seen it yet, dont ruin it for me!

i usually dont get to watch it till friday


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Reply #2 posted 11/11/04 1:24pm

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Reply #3 posted 11/11/04 1:25pm

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Reply #4 posted 11/11/04 1:25pm

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I was a little surprised last night..i have to admit...
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Reply #5 posted 11/11/04 1:27pm

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Rhondab said:

I was a little surprised last night..i have to admit...



dont say it, i havent seen it lol
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Reply #6 posted 11/11/04 1:30pm

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but you know I keep clicking on this thrad hoping some one spilled the beans


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Reply #7 posted 11/11/04 1:41pm

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ella731 said:

but you know I keep clicking on this thrad hoping some one spilled the beans


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Well im about to spill some of the beans...

I think it so wrong when Amanda stole Eva's dress right beofre the photo shoot. With her blind ass.
But I guess she showed em all when Eva just went ahead and posed nude






































































just kidding giggle
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Reply #8 posted 11/11/04 1:44pm

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ThreadCula said:

ella731 said:

but you know I keep clicking on this thrad hoping some one spilled the beans


falloff



Well im about to spill some of the beans...

I think it so wrong when Amanda stole Eva's dress right beofre the photo shoot. With her blind ass.
But I guess she showed em all when Eva just went ahead and posed nude
















































just kidding giggle





ahhhhh lol damn you!!!!!
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Reply #9 posted 11/11/04 1:54pm

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Reply #10 posted 11/11/04 1:56pm

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I hope someone signs her,I think she can do well
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Reply #11 posted 11/11/04 1:57pm

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ella731 said:

havent seen it yet, dont ruin it for me!

i usually dont get to watch it till friday


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We'll reconvene on the weekend (although I am available by Orgnote in the meantime to debate the merits of this week's episode).
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Reply #12 posted 11/11/04 2:02pm

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ThreadCula said:

I think it so wrong when Amanda stole Eva's dress right beofre the photo shoot. With her blind ass.
But I guess she showed em all when Eva just went ahead and posed nude


And who foresaw that surprise appearance by Ace, when he showed-up and lured Norelle and Ann into that torrid threeway?
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Reply #13 posted 11/11/04 2:05pm

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Ace said:

ThreadCula said:

I think it so wrong when Amanda stole Eva's dress right beofre the photo shoot. With her blind ass.
But I guess she showed em all when Eva just went ahead and posed nude


And who foresaw that surprise appearance by Ace, when he showed-up and lured Norelle and Ann into that torrid threeway?

eek That was u who took the chocolate syrup from the snack table ...just splashing it everywhere
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Reply #14 posted 11/12/04 3:48pm

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I found out on the Wendy Williams show who got voted off before I even watched it. I hate when that happens. Cuz I always tape my shows during the week and watch them later when I get a chance to. But I'll actually talk about the show later, after I watch it. smile
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Reply #15 posted 11/12/04 9:40pm

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ThreadCula said:

ella731 said:

but you know I keep clicking on this thrad hoping some one spilled the beans


falloff



Well im about to spill some of the beans...

I think it so wrong when Amanda stole Eva's dress right beofre the photo shoot. With her blind ass.
But I guess she showed em all when Eva just went ahead and posed nude


MAN, I was thinking, "What episode did I miss??!" lol
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Reply #16 posted 11/12/04 9:41pm

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I hope someone signs her,I think she can do well


I'm banking on seeing her in Essence & other mags, etc. soon enough nod
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Reply #17 posted 11/12/04 9:51pm

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I think YaYa had a right to get defensive when that one judge said somethin' like she tries too hard to prove her "Africaness"....maybe that's just who she is. And then they said somethin' like she has a superior attitude.....I haven't noticed anything wrong with her attitude. She seems kinda neutral a lot of the time, but we are watching a tv show and a lot is cut out...so who really knows what happens. You gotta have tough skin to go on that show....I know I would've broken down in tears whenever it came time to go to the panel.
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Reply #18 posted 11/12/04 10:04pm

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I think YaYa had a right to get defensive when that one judge said somethin' like she tries too hard to prove her "Africaness"....maybe that's just who she is. And then they said somethin' like she has a superior attitude.....I haven't noticed anything wrong with her attitude. She seems kinda neutral a lot of the time, but we are watching a tv show and a lot is cut out...so who really knows what happens. You gotta have tough skin to go on that show....I know I would've broken down in tears whenever it came time to go to the panel.


Yea, the "African-ness" comment bothered me. But she could have had more of a balance between what's "fashion" & what represents her. I don't really get all that shit lol but they seem to. Maybe a piece of jewelery & one other piece that represents who she is, & the rest geared toward fashionistas.

BUT, as much as I like Yaya as a model she does act kind of holier than thow sometimes. I think anyone who speaks about themselves in 3rd person needs to be taken down a peg & she's done that disbelief

Anyway, the person I'm really gonna miss is Kelly. Watching her break out in tears while looking in the mirror was THE funniest shit on TV evillol
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Reply #19 posted 11/12/04 10:31pm

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Anyway, the person I'm really gonna miss is Kelly. Watching her break out in tears while looking in the mirror was THE funniest shit on TV evillol


falloff that was a classic moment....especially when she said "I'm hideous". But I don't get all of the fashion lingo either. Clothes are clothes to me. And when they point out the models flaws in the pictures...I'm all dumbfounded wondering what's wrong with the pictures. They consider to me what seems to be decent pictures horrible. But I'm not in that industry, so I guess I would think like this.
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Reply #20 posted 11/12/04 11:17pm

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CalhounSq said:

AnckSuNamun said:

I think YaYa had a right to get defensive when that one judge said somethin' like she tries too hard to prove her "Africaness"....maybe that's just who she is. And then they said somethin' like she has a superior attitude.....I haven't noticed anything wrong with her attitude. She seems kinda neutral a lot of the time, but we are watching a tv show and a lot is cut out...so who really knows what happens. You gotta have tough skin to go on that show....I know I would've broken down in tears whenever it came time to go to the panel.


Yea, the "African-ness" comment bothered me. But she could have had more of a balance between what's "fashion" & what represents her. I don't really get all that shit lol but they seem to. Maybe a piece of jewelery & one other piece that represents who she is, & the rest geared toward fashionistas.

BUT, as much as I like Yaya as a model she does act kind of holier than thow sometimes. I think anyone who speaks about themselves in 3rd person needs to be taken down a peg & she's done that disbelief

Anyway, the person I'm really gonna miss is Kelly. Watching her break out in tears while looking in the mirror was THE funniest shit on TV evillol




In Yaya's case, she is attractive but she needs to put the ethnic stuff aside b/c not everybody is going to be accepting (judges proved this tonight). The only thing that I would recommend she do is put that ehtnicc stuff aside for a minute get her hair relax and chill w/the ethnic wardrobe b/c in life you have to make sacrifices for you career rather you like it or not. She needs to learn this now.
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Reply #21 posted 11/13/04 2:56am

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Hotlegs said:

CalhounSq said:



Yea, the "African-ness" comment bothered me. But she could have had more of a balance between what's "fashion" & what represents her. I don't really get all that shit lol but they seem to. Maybe a piece of jewelery & one other piece that represents who she is, & the rest geared toward fashionistas.

BUT, as much as I like Yaya as a model she does act kind of holier than thow sometimes. I think anyone who speaks about themselves in 3rd person needs to be taken down a peg & she's done that disbelief

Anyway, the person I'm really gonna miss is Kelly. Watching her break out in tears while looking in the mirror was THE funniest shit on TV evillol




In Yaya's case, she is attractive but she needs to put the ethnic stuff aside b/c not everybody is going to be accepting (judges proved this tonight). The only thing that I would recommend she do is put that ehtnicc stuff aside for a minute get her hair relax and chill w/the ethnic wardrobe b/c in life you have to make sacrifices for you career rather you like it or not. She needs to learn this now.




...I completely disagree on getting her hair relaxed and just comforming completely to european ideal of beauty. Alex Wek keeps her hair in a very low, natural hair cut and still gets much work while still keeping her "africaness" and I would argue that yaya has more opinions with keeping her hair natural because it can be straighten out as well as kinked up. As far as the wardrobe, she needs balance. A piece of jewerly here and there to keep with who she is would be enough.

And big up for Tyra for looking at the stylist like "WTF".....I think as much as YaYa's attitude needed a small adjustment, that stylist should have been checked for the way she criticized yaya. It could have been said differently.


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Reply #22 posted 11/13/04 9:33am

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Rhondab said:

Hotlegs said:





In Yaya's case, she is attractive but she needs to put the ethnic stuff aside b/c not everybody is going to be accepting (judges proved this tonight). The only thing that I would recommend she do is put that ehtnicc stuff aside for a minute get her hair relax and chill w/the ethnic wardrobe b/c in life you have to make sacrifices for you career rather you like it or not. She needs to learn this now.




...I completely disagree on getting her hair relaxed and just comforming completely to european ideal of beauty. Alex Wek keeps her hair in a very low, natural hair cut and still gets much work while still keeping her "africaness" and I would argue that yaya has more opinions with keeping her hair natural because it can be straighten out as well as kinked up. As far as the wardrobe, she needs balance. A piece of jewerly here and there to keep with who she is would be enough.

And big up for Tyra for looking at the stylist like "WTF".....I think as much as YaYa's attitude needed a small adjustment, that stylist should have been checked for the way she criticized yaya. It could have been said differently.


Alex
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Of course Rhonda, the model you picture does sports the Grace Jones look so she is different from Yaya.

As for the stylist attitude, its typical of some of the people in the industry. Yaya has to learn how to develop thick skin inorder to deal with the bigotry she will experience in the fashion industry
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Reply #23 posted 11/13/04 10:04am

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It's cool that Ya Ya is in touch with her African roots, but WE GET IT ALREADY!
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Reply #24 posted 11/13/04 1:00pm

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Of course Rhonda, the model you picture does sports the Grace Jones look so she is different from Yaya.




my point was only about comformity and looking natural but not that yaya has to cut her hair like this model. You can still keep with your ethnic look and be a model was my point.
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Reply #25 posted 11/13/04 2:45pm

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Rhondab said:

Hotlegs said:



Of course Rhonda, the model you picture does sports the Grace Jones look so she is different from Yaya.




my point was only about comformity and looking natural but not that yaya has to cut her hair like this model. You can still keep with your ethnic look and be a model was my point.


wink Rhonda, I see your point. Don't get me wrong, I just hope that Yaya hasn't burned any bridges while on the show this my concern. She was quite vocal on the show considering that fact that she hasn't been in the biz. Hopefully, the firms that hire her in the future can look towards ethnic look bias.
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AnckSuNamun said:

CalhounSq said:




Anyway, the person I'm really gonna miss is Kelly. Watching her break out in tears while looking in the mirror was THE funniest shit on TV evillol


falloff that was a classic moment....especially when she said "I'm hideous". But I don't get all of the fashion lingo either. Clothes are clothes to me. And when they point out the models flaws in the pictures...I'm all dumbfounded wondering what's wrong with the pictures. They consider to me what seems to be decent pictures horrible. But I'm not in that industry, so I guess I would think like this.


Same here. I feel like I kinda get what they're talking about once they've said it lol
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Reply #27 posted 11/13/04 5:00pm

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Hotlegs said:

CalhounSq said:



Yea, the "African-ness" comment bothered me. But she could have had more of a balance between what's "fashion" & what represents her. I don't really get all that shit lol but they seem to. Maybe a piece of jewelery & one other piece that represents who she is, & the rest geared toward fashionistas.

BUT, as much as I like Yaya as a model she does act kind of holier than thow sometimes. I think anyone who speaks about themselves in 3rd person needs to be taken down a peg & she's done that disbelief

Anyway, the person I'm really gonna miss is Kelly. Watching her break out in tears while looking in the mirror was THE funniest shit on TV evillol




In Yaya's case, she is attractive but she needs to put the ethnic stuff aside b/c not everybody is going to be accepting (judges proved this tonight). The only thing that I would recommend she do is put that ehtnicc stuff aside for a minute get her hair relax and chill w/the ethnic wardrobe b/c in life you have to make sacrifices for you career rather you like it or not. She needs to learn this now.


OH PLEASE... Yaya does NOT need to relax her hair whofarted or put "the ethnic stuff aside" mad Like Rhonda said it's about balance, not forgetting who you are. Damn, you want her to get some blue contacts too?? hmm disbelief hammer

DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying anyone Black who relaxes their hair doesn't know who they are either lol BUT if Yaya were to up & do that to please these fucking judges & the fashion world I'd think she'd lost her way b/c she seems so firmly grounded in who she is... & it ain't some chick on a box of relaxer...

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Reply #28 posted 11/13/04 5:02pm

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UptownDeb said:

www.televisionwithoutpity thumbs up!

It's cool that Ya Ya is in touch with her African roots, but WE GET IT ALREADY!


Y'all are a trip lol As if she's doing it for us to "get" confused Obviously it's very much a part of who she is - why should she lose that completely?
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Reply #29 posted 11/13/04 6:08pm

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CalhounSq said:

Hotlegs said:





In Yaya's case, she is attractive but she needs to put the ethnic stuff aside b/c not everybody is going to be accepting (judges proved this tonight). The only thing that I would recommend she do is put that ehtnicc stuff aside for a minute get her hair relax and chill w/the ethnic wardrobe b/c in life you have to make sacrifices for you career rather you like it or not. She needs to learn this now.


OH PLEASE... Yaya does NOT need to relax her hair whofarted or put "the ethnic stuff aside" mad Like Rhonda said it's about balance,too?? hmm disbelief hammer



To tell you the truth, I could really give 2 shits what she does with her hair. However, I see potential in her and want the best for her. As a former model, I am aware of the pitfalls, so I will see things in a different light than most orgers. For Yaya to serve as an balance is cool but, she has to know when to keep her fucking arrogant mouth shut and not burn down bridges even when she has to deal with well connected racists bitches.


At the end of the day, Opinions are booty! assholes and everyone has one. However for the fucking purpse of this show, the judges decisions count so either Yaya has to get with the program and be able to deal w/constructive bias criticism and move on or else modeling isn't the field for her. As with any profession, no matter how much indidividuality you want to infuse into your job, you have to realize that there is standard way in which things are done and you are subject to be judged rather you like or not
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