OdysseyMiles said:

I guess that's what I get for not having a picture in my avatar.

Fleshofmyflesh said:

That wasn't a nice thing to say, Odyssey.

Fleshofmyflesh said:

Uh....YEAH . You do need an avatar.

applekisses said:

Hold up! I know y'all aren't offended!
Man, this is crazy. I straight up said some (being as diplomatic as crap) big women get heated when they see a small girl get attention. Why would anybody get offended by that when I didn't single you out??? If a big woman gets heated when someone smaller gets attention, maybe she should check herself and her own insecurities. I wasn't taking all big women and judging them.

*frustrated spelling edit*
[Edited 11/10/04 12:57pm]

Ace said:

I should've just left it at this^. Applekisses, you know I love ya.

And now back to our regularly-scheduled asses...

OdysseyMiles said:

Easy BIG fella.
I was merely joking about the fact that you told BabyDoll Apples that you weren't implying she was big, but didn't give me the same pass.
It was a joke!

Ace said:

The point you're not getting is that I'm NOT trying to change your mind! THIS IS MY OPINION AND I AM STATING IT. NOW...I will leave it at that. Period. But, be fore-warned that you WILL continue to see my opinions on THIS topic and others as well.

Fleshofmyflesh said:

Yeah, I'm 6'2". What of it?

Fleshofmyflesh said:

and I was sticking up for her because I thought she felt bad...that's all.

applekisses said:

Yep - Apples had my back.

http://www.6space.de/free...ubai08.jpg (NSFW)

Fleshofmyflesh said:

Disgusting .
You can quit with all the sticking up for one another and get back to the cat-fighting please! Plus, I got your back as well. Isn't that what this thread is about?

OdysseyMiles said:

Well...this thread isn't about my back I've got a muscular, apple-shaped booty

JoweeCoco said:

Jowee - is that supposed to be a good one or not a good one?

Speaking for myself as a very thin woman with a flat ass I have to say I always feel bad when I hear people, especially other women, say that thin woman "don't look womanly" because they don't have "curves".

I'd love to have a more full rear or a little bit larger bust, but guess what - God didn't make me that way. I cannot help it that I am thin (I just always have been) but I am just as "womanly" as a heavier woman.

I would never say anything about a larger woman's body size not making her appear attractive or "unwomanly"...I don't get this body bashing nowadays. Everybody's built differently and just because one woman's breasts are larger or one woman's waist is smaller or one woman's butt is bigger (or smaller) doesn't make one's femininity superior to the other.

I know nobody meant anything in a deliberately insulting manner but this subject has always bothered me. I read on other message boards larger woman just CRUCIFYING thinner woman as "looking like boys", or not being womanly, or being so skinny and "bony" and that real men want "REAL WOMEN" (whatever that means...) with "REAL CURVES" and I don't get it. Going by their logic, I guess I'm just an unwomanly skinny boy who men wouldn't want and I should just accept how unfeminine I am.

I just hate all the labeling I see...especially between women. Heavier women don't like to be labeled or called 'fat', well - again, speaking for myself - skinnier women don't like ot be called "unwomanly" and "like boys" due to their unfortunate LACK of curves.

Hope I didn't offend anybody with my thoughts. As I said, this subject just always bugs me.

SnowQueen said:

I'm not offended at all. But, when the media is portraying girls with your body-type, which is less common than the "curvy" type, 99.9 pecent of the time it's YOU who is getting most of the social validation on a daily basis. Women in commericals, videos, TV, movies, magazines, etc...they mostly ALL look like you. BUT...that's not the "norm" for this country. The average woman wears a size 12. THAT is why you hear other women saying these things. It's a backlash against the media...not of you personally.

Edit: So think about feeling bad every day, not just because you see someone talking about it on a message board, because of the images that you see in the media NOT looking like you...the anti-curve messages in EVERY form of media...then you might understand the reason that "average" women feel so strongly about getting the message out that they are attractive too.
[Edited 11/10/04 13:19pm]

Fleshofmyflesh said:

I think hes going with the flat ass theme here with that pic

OdysseyMiles said:

She's flat on both sides

I'm flat and I'm proud!

Nikster said:

SnowQueen said:

There's my Queen!
I been missin ya.
You know I love your skinny behind!
The intent of this thread, though making an attempt at humor, was to shed some light on those of us who don't get attention for their bums - EVER.
I love Apples but I disagree slightly. If you watch music videos or listen to hip hop, you know the big ass is celebrated and the flat bums are made fun of.

ella731 said:

Fleshofmyflesh said:

But, that's only in one segment...if you look at mainstream WHITE media...thin is in and has been since about the 1960s.

applekisses said:

I understand what you're saying. I just wish there was a more constructive way to express personal opinion or preference that didn't involve bashing the "other body type" - whichever side you come from.

And I understand what you mean about those comments being a backlash against what the media is cramming down society's throat as what is considered 'beautiful' or the acceptable body type, but those comments are made on a more personal level..i.e. "Skinny women are unwomanly and no man wants a pre-pubescent boy, they want a REAL WOMAN!" is, to me, different and more personal than saying "I really can't stand how the media portrays "thin" as the ideal. ALL women can be beautiful in their own way - large, small, heavy, thin. WE ARE ALL BEAUTIFUL and are just as feminine in one form as the other." To me, that's showing disgust with the media and it's ridiculous notion that thin=beauty.

Bashing skinnier woman on a personal level by saying heavier is what is "right" and makes a woman a "real woman", and skinny is ugly and undesirable and unwomanly is just the flip side of the same attitude & mindset that those same woman are claiming to be so disgusted and frustated with.

applekisses said:

That's fair, but I am exposed more often to music and visuals celebrating the big bootie.
As you can see from most of the posts - the flat behinds get a BUM RAP.

SnowQueen said:

Not really, because ultrathin women have the media backing them in full. It's difficult to turn on the TV without hearing a fat joke...how many do you hear about those who are skinny?

Fleshofmyflesh said:

I need to be! I just get a lot of comments from white guys about how I don't have an "athletic" enough body (I had a boyfriend's father hate me because of that) or how I can't be attractive because of my size (I'm a tall, curvy, NOT obese, woman)

Fleshofmyflesh said:

Hey Flesh, baby. Thank you. And my flat rear thanks you,too, for giving it a bit of appreciation. Flat asses aren't something most people are thrilled to own.

And I agree with you - the fuller, round behinds *are* celebrated and gosh if I wouldn't love to have mind be such also butt what can ya do....

Apples is correct in that the media proclaims the skinnier body type as the ideal and I don't agree with that either. Woman have a enough body issues as it is without all these unrealistic standards being forced on us all the time.

This is an interesting thread, Flesh. Thanks for starting it.

I have a juicy one, but hey...I work out.

OdysseyMiles said:

Me too!