Byron said:

I'm sorry Byron

Sweeny79 said:

Agreed. Upbringing does impact one's soceital view.

Hotlegs said:

but it's not the ONLY thing that impacts one's views.

Sweeny79 said:

For sure Yeah...and da thing is, parental influence can be strong, but again that depends on what a person's mind chooses to digest...they can reject a certain outlook or they can take it on, because for some reason it works for them.

lilmissmissy said:

Men who hide behind religion or some out of context biblical quote have buried a much stronger emotion, or as Byron said, insecurity.

Sweeny79 said:

I couldn't agree more with that!! It's soooo true.

lilmissmissy said:

So, the question still remains unanswered...how do women view dating/involvement with a man who makes significantly less than she does?...Say, she makes $36,000 a year, and he makes $15,000...Is he seen differently, are you just as comfortable becoming heavily involved with him as you would with a guy making $50,000 a year?? If you DO become involved with him, is it with this unspoken belief that he'll someday soon be making far more than he is now??..Or is it with the belief that it doesn't matter if he makes $15,000 for the next 5 years..??

Byron said:

Ahemm... I kinda answered....but the stands alone.

Sweeny79 said:

Byron said:

good question, Byron...I don't have any grounds to answer myself, but to give an example ~

My Mum was in a really high paid job (well, really high pay for what she was ever used to, anyway) and my stepdad was going through a slump because he'd had a really bad accident at work (he was a carpenter at the time) and totally smashed his elbow so he couldn't work for well over a year. In that time he went to TAFE (a kind of college system here in Australia) and wasn't making any money at all except for the payment he got from the government. Mum found that really hard to handle and became impatient with it unfortunately I'm not sure why...it was all OK when he started working again tho

Natisse said:

Money issues tend to upset families hon

but I think the show/Byron was talking more about dating issues than faimly managemnet ones.

It's a different ball of wax.

Hello, this is an interesting subject for sure.
My ex-girlfriend has a uni degree in the history of art and at that time my highest qualification was HNC.An equivalent to an associates in the US Im told.
However, while she was studying for her degree I was always at hand to give her support whenever she needed.
When she graduated, her whole attitude changed, she became holyier than thou. And always reminded me that she had a degree and i didnt, and that she was more cleverer than me for this.
I was very confused at to why she would behave this way, when in the past she would ask for my advice on any subject, she shunned my opinion, and sought advice from her peers instead. I am an Engineer, and she respected my knowledge of things were different to hers prior to her graduation. But at the end of the relationship she thought her knowledge was supirior.
I dumped her quick style. but no way was i intimidated. I only think she was ignorant. not Clever.

davehead said:

That issue came up on the show as well. People do get a little funny once they get some eduamacation.

My wife is better educated and smarter than me and it suits me just fine.

We earn about the same rate of pay but I earn more cos i work full-time and she works part time (due to the kids).

I could think of nothing better than her earning loads more money than me then maybe I could give up work and do something interesting.

The thought of having a higher paid partner has never intimidated me and I've never been intimidated by having a female boss, in fact, I much prefer it.

Sweeny79 said:

Actually, it applies to both... Mainly has to do with how you see the person you're involved with if you either 1) have a higher degree than they do, or 2) make more money than they do. Sometimes the stress within a family management issue actuallly stems from how, say, a wife now sees her husband once his income is significantly lower than hers...or how he sees himself in that situation.

Byron said:

But....


when you are dating, it's different than when you have a family.

Sweeny79 said:

But...

The issues still exist in both scenarios. They just have different ramifications.

Oh yeah, having a degree does not mean that you earn more than those that dont. I do not have a law degree yet work as a non-qualified lawyer and do all the same things that they do. I also get paid the same.

Additionally, I have friends who have no degrees that are in insurance broking, sales, tradespersons etc and they earn great money. My father who is a successful lawyer now in his early 60's has always commented upon the fact that his friends that left school eraly to be builders, plumbers etc have earned far more money than him.

There is no greater example of the truism that degrees do not gaurentee high income than looking at the pay of teachers. They are well educated yet get paid shit money for what they do.

YES.....WAIT A MINUTE.....NO.

Byron said:

dating has less

bkw said:

AMEN!

Byron said:

I agree...Mum, I think, saw it as Kev not getting back out there and giving it a go and kind of giving up on himself - that frustrated her I think more than anything

Natisse said:

Well that isn't about money at all...it's about love

Sweeny79 said:

initially, yes...but I think it turned into being about money after that, unfortunately

Natisse said:

it always does love

bkw Said:


I agree, if there's issues about monet and degrees your relationship has gone off track!

Sweeny79 said:

yep...money sucks it creates negativity, splits families and tears love apart

Natisse said:

Money is the root of all evil?

FLUX said: