Mad cow's decease is god's way of saying eating meat is bad !

ReturnOfDOOK said:

good for him. i'll send him some incense to light in his bathroom, i'm sure he'll need it.

Dewrede said:

No it is nature’s way of saying that feeding the diseased and decaying bodies of animals that aren’t fit for human consumption are ok for other animals to eat. Oh and that is only theory not proven.

Wow , could this be the longest thread of the year ? (apart from the stickies)

(tho i must say 47 replies were by myself)
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I think that all animal products (not just meat) should have an additional tax levied on them.

The tax could be split:

50% to Animal welfare groups to educate producers and consumers about the treatment of livestock;
50% as a subsidy to Farmers whom give over more of their farmland to arable crops such as soy, wheat and maize.

As the price of meat escalated, more people would sway towards substitute products. The farmers whom had decreased cattle-farming to receive the subsidy would reap the rewards without any loss of earnings.

It is gross. I really do try to go completely vegetarian at least once a year. It is like cannibalism. I mean, a leg is a leg whether or not it's a human leg or bovine.

PREDOMINANT said:

Anxiety said:

Koala gives me indigestion too.

Honestly , i think it should be outlawed

Why is it ok to kill an animal to eat , yet it's
forbidden to beat your dog up , (for example) ?
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I have done some research into nutrition and something interesting I have come across but is not widely know is the fact that there are three main types of Metabolisms.

And depending on what Metabolism you actually are, what you eat, or don't eat can cause obesity, disease, lack of energy, etc. The three basic Metabolic diets are:

Protein Type: A diet that needs high protein, heavy and fatty high-purine diets, high fats and oils, low carbohydrates.

Carbo type: A diet that needs low protein, light and lean low-purine proteins, low fats and oil, high carbohydrates.

Mixed type: A diet that needs a mixture of high fat and high-purine proteins and low-fat, low-purine proteins, requires relatively equal ratios of proteins and fats and carbohydrates.

There are variations in each Metabolic types with extremes at each end of the spectrum, but these are the three basic types. The reason for these is that over thousands of years of evolutionary history, people in different parts in the world developed very distinct nutritional needs in response to a whole range of variables, including climate and geography and whatever plant and animal life their particular environments had to offer.

As a result, people today have widely varying nutrient requirements, especially with regard to macronutrients - the proteins, carbohydrates, and fats that are the fundamental dietary "building blocks" or the compounds most essential to sustaining life.

For example, many people who currently inhabit tropical or equatorial regions have a strong hereditary need for diets high in carbohydrates such as vegetables and fruits and grains and legumes. These foods provide the kind of body fuel that is most compatible with the unique body chemistry of those people. There systems are simply not designed to process or utilize large quantities of animal protein and fat.

Conversely, people from cold, harsh northern climates are not genetically equipped to survive on light vegetarian food. They tend to burn body fuel quickly, so they need heavier foods to sustain themselves. This is why all those one size fits all diets work great for some and don't work at all, or actually make it worse for others.

Bottom line, diet considered healthful in one part of the world is frequently disastrous for people elsewhere in the world. Not everyone can be vegetarians. Many people simply cannot be healthy without eating some meat. Some have gone years and decades without eating any meat and are completely healthy, others cannot. That is just how it is.

BinaryJustin said:

Yea right, then tax fruit and veg too.

50% to improve the treatment of livestock.

50% to promote awareness of pesticides and insecticides.

Interesting theory (replying to Sowhat)
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Sowhat said:

This is variation not absolute. Humans are omniverous.

BinaryJustin said:

Finally somebody's seeing the truth
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Dewrede said:

Thanks.

I am not underplaying animal abuse, and I do think that animals to be used for human consumption could be treated much better.

But I honestly believe that some people must have at least some meat to be healthy and even survive.

Many don't need meat and they can be Vegitarians if they choose which is great. But some simply cannot.

Everyone is different, has different nutritional needs, different metabolisms, etc..which is why certain diets or exercise programs work very well for some, not so well for others, and not at all for others.

Despite the theory being interesing i don't agree with it ,
I would tho' if you said not everybody can be vegan

I was in one of my business classes back in college called "Environmental Operations" and for some reason we were discussing vegetarianism, etc. All of a sudden some guy comes out with this:

"The human body wasn't meant to be vegetarian because it doesn't digest vegetables all that well. I mean, just look at corn."

He successfully grossed every single female out in the room and every guy had a look of disbelief....it was absolutly hysterical.

You mean he actually showed his faeces ?

Dewrede said:

That's cool. We can respectfully agree to disagree.

But I have actually know a few people who tried to become vegetarians and they became very unhealthy. They even tried many different variations, supplements, B12 injections, etc. and it just didn't work for them. And there were very dedicated and tried hard. They even went to extremes to try to make it work. I also know others who have successfully become vegetations and are healthier than ever.

Everybody is different with different needs.

Which is why, for example, a person can smoke most of their adult life and be in their 90’s and be perfectly healthy when the next person gets emphysema or cancer, or a heart attack at a much younger age? Or how someone can drink alcohol everyday and never become an alcoholic but the next person can become an alcoholic very quickly.

shit...i cant believe i missed out on this thread while it going on!

now i dont have time to read or reply at all

on my way to work

irresistibleb1tch said:

I've been eating meat my whole life and I'm perfectly healthy.

Sorry to dump your theory down the toilet.

Well is just people agreeing or disagreeing (mostly) with the statement,
nothing more


Have a nice day !

(here it's 8.30 p.m !)


(replying to Violett)
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Dewrede said:

Just quoting myself again
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MEAT IS MURDER

heifer whines could be human cries
closer comes the screaming knife
this beautiful creature must die
this beautiful creature must die
a death for no reason
and death for no reason is murder
and the flesh you so fancifully fry
is not succulent, tasty or nice
it's death for no reason
and death for no reason is murder
and the calf that you carve with a smile
is murder
and the turkey you festively slice
is murder
do you know how animals die?
kitchen aromas aren't very homely
it's not "comforting", "cheery" or kind
it's sizzling blood and the unholy stench
of murder
it's not "natural", "normal" or kind
the flesh you so fancifully fry
the meat in your mouth
as you savour the flavour
of murder
no, no, no, it's murder
no, no, no, it's murder
who hears when animals cry?

Thanks,man
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I want to do sometething against the injustice done to animals !
I always will
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Yummmm

You know , if you cut yourself up , it looks the same !
Maybe it'll even taste the same !
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