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Reply #90 posted 10/15/04 5:56am

Mach

New Atlas Shows Fast Pace of Changing World

Thu Oct 14, 9:13 PM ET

By Sue Pleming

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - From new place names, shrinking seas and terror attacks to soaring Internet usage, the world is changing at a more rapid pace than in previous decades, says National Geographic (news - web sites)'s chief cartographer.



The National Geographic Society is launching the eighth edition of its "Atlas of the World" this month and has made a record 17,000 updates and editorial changes from its edition five years ago.


"This pace of change mainly has to do with two factors, a still rapidly growing population and an ever-more international economy," said Allen Carroll, the society's chief map-maker.


The new atlas uses the latest digital mapping techniques and satellite imagery and for the first time, each page has an Internet address where readers can find more information.


"The goal is to get people excited about the world and to increase people's understanding. There is too much local focus but not enough understanding of how what happens in the world affects our lives," said Carroll.


The 416-page, 7 lb book includes maps and graphics that reflect global challenges, such as "Conflict and Terror." Others portray migration and refugee flows and health and literacy rates.


When mapping out what they described as terror attacks, Carroll said they purposefully did not indicate where Al Qaeda -- blamed by the United States for many attacks including those on Sept. 11, 2001 -- or other groups were based as this was a shifting target.


RICH-POOR DIVIDE


Carroll says that more than ever, the political and economic maps reflect a growing gap between the developing and the developed world.


For example, a map of undersea fibre-optic cables shows a jumbled mass of cables between Europe and the United States but a lone one snaking around the west coast of Africa and skipping much of east Africa. A map on Internet hosts paints a similar picture, with Europe, parts of Asia and North America dominating the scene.


"This shows us that Africa is still relatively isolated both economically and technologically," said Carroll in an interview from his office in Washington D.C..


Surrounded by different sized globes and with piles of maps spread out on his table, Carroll said there was a lot of internal debate about what to include and what not to in the political and economic maps section.


"We have bent over very far backward to make sure we are objective and fair and as nonpartisan as we can be here," he said. "We are very careful to use as many sources as we can and not follow the policies of any one organization."


HIGHER MOUNTAIN, LOWER SEA


East Timor (news - web sites) -- the first new nation this century -- is mapped for the first time in the latest atlas and the recently defined border between Yemen and Saudi Arabia is also shown as are the administrative divisions in Slovakia and the Czech Republic.


Other notable changes include the fact that Mount Everest (news - web sites), Earth's highest point, is recorded seven feet higher at 29,035 feet -- not because it has grown but because measurement data is more accurate.


Earth's lowest point, the Dead Sea, has dropped 26 feet, down to minus 1,365 feet because of increased water consumption in that area, said Carroll.





The atlas also shows environmental degradation. For example, Lake Chad has shrunk due to an ongoing drought and the Aral Sea has been affected by the siphoning of water.

Carroll says most environmental changes are subtle and unnoticeable to the human eye. "Thank goodness, otherwise thousands of people would be fleeing as seas encroached and things like that," he said.

Some of the more impressive satellite imagery in the atlas is a compilation of night time shots taken over several months and pieced together to show human settlements according to the number of bright lights.

Predictably, North America's East and West coasts, Western Europe, parts of India and Japan, have the biggest number of lights, while parts of Australia are engulfed in fires.

When it comes to naming towns and cities, Carroll says they use the name people would identify if traveling to that area. For example, Italy's capital is identified as "Roma" with the English translation "Rome" next to it.

National Geographic printed its first atlas in 1963. At $165 a copy, the first print run this time round will be 165,000. A single map plate contains up to 8,000 labels and the 136-page index has 140,000 place names.
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Reply #91 posted 10/15/04 6:06am

DavidEye

music "cause when the lovin' starts and the lights go down
there's not another living soul around
you woo me until the sun comes up
and you say that you love me"
music



headbang
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Reply #92 posted 10/15/04 6:07am

PREDOMINANT

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Mach said:

New Atlas Shows Fast Pace of Changing World

Thu Oct 14, 9:13 PM ET

By Sue Pleming

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - From new place names, shrinking seas and terror attacks to soaring Internet usage, the world is changing at a more rapid pace than in previous decades, says National Geographic (news - web sites)'s chief cartographer.



The National Geographic Society is launching the eighth edition of its "Atlas of the World" this month and has made a record 17,000 updates and editorial changes from its edition five years ago.


"This pace of change mainly has to do with two factors, a still rapidly growing population and an ever-more international economy," said Allen Carroll, the society's chief map-maker.


The new atlas uses the latest digital mapping techniques and satellite imagery and for the first time, each page has an Internet address where readers can find more information.


"The goal is to get people excited about the world and to increase people's understanding. There is too much local focus but not enough understanding of how what happens in the world affects our lives," said Carroll.


The 416-page, 7 lb book includes maps and graphics that reflect global challenges, such as "Conflict and Terror." Others portray migration and refugee flows and health and literacy rates.


When mapping out what they described as terror attacks, Carroll said they purposefully did not indicate where Al Qaeda -- blamed by the United States for many attacks including those on Sept. 11, 2001 -- or other groups were based as this was a shifting target.


RICH-POOR DIVIDE


Carroll says that more than ever, the political and economic maps reflect a growing gap between the developing and the developed world.


For example, a map of undersea fibre-optic cables shows a jumbled mass of cables between Europe and the United States but a lone one snaking around the west coast of Africa and skipping much of east Africa. A map on Internet hosts paints a similar picture, with Europe, parts of Asia and North America dominating the scene.


"This shows us that Africa is still relatively isolated both economically and technologically," said Carroll in an interview from his office in Washington D.C..


Surrounded by different sized globes and with piles of maps spread out on his table, Carroll said there was a lot of internal debate about what to include and what not to in the political and economic maps section.


"We have bent over very far backward to make sure we are objective and fair and as nonpartisan as we can be here," he said. "We are very careful to use as many sources as we can and not follow the policies of any one organization."


HIGHER MOUNTAIN, LOWER SEA


East Timor (news - web sites) -- the first new nation this century -- is mapped for the first time in the latest atlas and the recently defined border between Yemen and Saudi Arabia is also shown as are the administrative divisions in Slovakia and the Czech Republic.


Other notable changes include the fact that Mount Everest (news - web sites), Earth's highest point, is recorded seven feet higher at 29,035 feet -- not because it has grown but because measurement data is more accurate.


Earth's lowest point, the Dead Sea, has dropped 26 feet, down to minus 1,365 feet because of increased water consumption in that area, said Carroll.





The atlas also shows environmental degradation. For example, Lake Chad has shrunk due to an ongoing drought and the Aral Sea has been affected by the siphoning of water.

Carroll says most environmental changes are subtle and unnoticeable to the human eye. "Thank goodness, otherwise thousands of people would be fleeing as seas encroached and things like that," he said.

Some of the more impressive satellite imagery in the atlas is a compilation of night time shots taken over several months and pieced together to show human settlements according to the number of bright lights.

Predictably, North America's East and West coasts, Western Europe, parts of India and Japan, have the biggest number of lights, while parts of Australia are engulfed in fires.

When it comes to naming towns and cities, Carroll says they use the name people would identify if traveling to that area. For example, Italy's capital is identified as "Roma" with the English translation "Rome" next to it.

National Geographic printed its first atlas in 1963. At $165 a copy, the first print run this time round will be 165,000. A single map plate contains up to 8,000 labels and the 136-page index has 140,000 place names.


I just read that, actually quite interesting, random, but intersting geek
Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard!
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Reply #93 posted 10/15/04 6:10am

Cloudbuster

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DavidEye said:

music "cause when the lovin' starts and the lights go down
there's not another living soul around
you woo me until the sun comes up
and you say that you love me"
music



headbang


smile
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Reply #94 posted 10/15/04 6:12am

IstenSzek

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Cloudbuster said:

I've not started a thread for a long time and I feel like I'm missing out in life because of it. bawl

So here's a thread for you to play with. smile

Feel free to post any kind of randomness you wish. Offensive posters will be dealt with in private with the assistance of a blindfold and sharp implements. So behave. smile



Garden Implements ?

batting eyes
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #95 posted 10/15/04 6:18am

Cloudbuster

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IstenSzek said:

Garden Implements ?

batting eyes


Maybe. batting eyes
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Reply #96 posted 10/15/04 6:19am

Cloudbuster

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PREDOMINANT said:



The top one is random, see? See how it is slightly squewif, the other two topics are quite normal. I probably shouldn't have posted them off topic, but without them the other would appear normal. What a crazy world we live in.....


wacky
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Reply #97 posted 10/15/04 6:21am

DavidEye

Cloudbuster said:

DavidEye said:

music "cause when the lovin' starts and the lights go down
there's not another living soul around
you woo me until the sun comes up
and you say that you love me"
music



headbang


smile



I'm going through another Fleetwood Mac phase,where I listen to nothing but their music for several weeks.
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Reply #98 posted 10/15/04 6:22am

Cloudbuster

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DavidEye said:

I'm going through another Fleetwood Mac phase,where I listen to nothing but their music for several weeks.


I did that earlier this year. Did you get the Tusk album yet? smile
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Reply #99 posted 10/15/04 6:27am

Mach

PREDOMINANT said:

Mach said:

New Atlas Shows Fast Pace of Changing World

Thu Oct 14, 9:13 PM ET

By Sue Pleming

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - From new place names, shrinking seas and terror attacks to soaring Internet usage, the world is changing at a more rapid pace than in previous decades, says National Geographic (news - web sites)'s chief cartographer.



The National Geographic Society is launching the eighth edition of its "Atlas of the World" this month and has made a record 17,000 updates and editorial changes from its edition five years ago.


"This pace of change mainly has to do with two factors, a still rapidly growing population and an ever-more international economy," said Allen Carroll, the society's chief map-maker.


The new atlas uses the latest digital mapping techniques and satellite imagery and for the first time, each page has an Internet address where readers can find more information.


"The goal is to get people excited about the world and to increase people's understanding. There is too much local focus but not enough understanding of how what happens in the world affects our lives," said Carroll.


The 416-page, 7 lb book includes maps and graphics that reflect global challenges, such as "Conflict and Terror." Others portray migration and refugee flows and health and literacy rates.


When mapping out what they described as terror attacks, Carroll said they purposefully did not indicate where Al Qaeda -- blamed by the United States for many attacks including those on Sept. 11, 2001 -- or other groups were based as this was a shifting target.


RICH-POOR DIVIDE


Carroll says that more than ever, the political and economic maps reflect a growing gap between the developing and the developed world.


For example, a map of undersea fibre-optic cables shows a jumbled mass of cables between Europe and the United States but a lone one snaking around the west coast of Africa and skipping much of east Africa. A map on Internet hosts paints a similar picture, with Europe, parts of Asia and North America dominating the scene.


"This shows us that Africa is still relatively isolated both economically and technologically," said Carroll in an interview from his office in Washington D.C..


Surrounded by different sized globes and with piles of maps spread out on his table, Carroll said there was a lot of internal debate about what to include and what not to in the political and economic maps section.


"We have bent over very far backward to make sure we are objective and fair and as nonpartisan as we can be here," he said. "We are very careful to use as many sources as we can and not follow the policies of any one organization."


HIGHER MOUNTAIN, LOWER SEA


East Timor (news - web sites) -- the first new nation this century -- is mapped for the first time in the latest atlas and the recently defined border between Yemen and Saudi Arabia is also shown as are the administrative divisions in Slovakia and the Czech Republic.


Other notable changes include the fact that Mount Everest (news - web sites), Earth's highest point, is recorded seven feet higher at 29,035 feet -- not because it has grown but because measurement data is more accurate.


Earth's lowest point, the Dead Sea, has dropped 26 feet, down to minus 1,365 feet because of increased water consumption in that area, said Carroll.





The atlas also shows environmental degradation. For example, Lake Chad has shrunk due to an ongoing drought and the Aral Sea has been affected by the siphoning of water.

Carroll says most environmental changes are subtle and unnoticeable to the human eye. "Thank goodness, otherwise thousands of people would be fleeing as seas encroached and things like that," he said.

Some of the more impressive satellite imagery in the atlas is a compilation of night time shots taken over several months and pieced together to show human settlements according to the number of bright lights.

Predictably, North America's East and West coasts, Western Europe, parts of India and Japan, have the biggest number of lights, while parts of Australia are engulfed in fires.

When it comes to naming towns and cities, Carroll says they use the name people would identify if traveling to that area. For example, Italy's capital is identified as "Roma" with the English translation "Rome" next to it.

National Geographic printed its first atlas in 1963. At $165 a copy, the first print run this time round will be 165,000. A single map plate contains up to 8,000 labels and the 136-page index has 140,000 place names.


I just read that, actually quite interesting, random, but intersting geek



yup random and interesting

thats what this thread is for right ??

hehehe
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Reply #100 posted 10/15/04 6:28am

DavidEye

Cloudbuster said:

DavidEye said:

I'm going through another Fleetwood Mac phase,where I listen to nothing but their music for several weeks.


I did that earlier this year. Did you get the Tusk album yet? smile



I sure did.I bought the three albums that were remastered earlier this year...

'Fleetwood Mac'
'Rumours'
'Tusk'



My favorite is the self-titled album,which I like even more than 'Rumours'.I'm still trying to "digest" 'Tusk',and when I do,I'm gonna start a thread about it.It's an interesting album.
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Reply #101 posted 10/15/04 6:30am

Cloudbuster

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DavidEye said:

Cloudbuster said:



I did that earlier this year. Did you get the Tusk album yet? smile



I sure did.I bought the three albums that were remastered earlier this year...

'Fleetwood Mac'
'Rumours'
'Tusk'



My favorite is the self-titled album,which I like even more than 'Rumours'. I'm still trying to "digest" 'Tusk',and when I do,I'm gonna start a thread about it.It's an interesting album.



omfg

And I'll be on that Tusk thread whenever you decide to start it. That's my fave of theirs. wink
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Reply #102 posted 10/15/04 7:55am

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spit
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Reply #103 posted 10/15/04 7:58am

Cloudbuster

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PREDOMINANT said:

spit


hmm
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Reply #104 posted 10/15/04 8:06am

PREDOMINANT

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Cloudbuster said:

PREDOMINANT said:

spit


hmm


hah!hmm
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Reply #105 posted 10/15/04 8:12am

Cloudbuster

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doody doody doody doody
doody doody

doody doody doody doody

smile
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Reply #106 posted 10/15/04 8:22am

scatwoman

Cloudbuster said:

doody doody doody doody
doody doody

doody doody doody doody

smile


drool3
"The Pentagon controls every word and image the American people reads or sees in mass media."
Richard Perle 2004, at a press conference in the Pentagon.
doody
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Reply #107 posted 10/15/04 8:23am

PREDOMINANT

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Cloudbuster said:

doody doody doody doody
doody doody

doody doody doody doody

smile


Like an average day at work or on the org. Simple perfection, surrounded by shit.
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Reply #108 posted 10/15/04 8:23am

NakedPreacherL
ady

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PREDOMINANT said:

Cloudbuster said:

doody doody doody doody
doody doody

doody doody doody doody

smile


Like an average day at work or on the org. Simple perfection, surrounded by shit.


lol
stoned
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Reply #109 posted 10/15/04 8:23am

PREDOMINANT

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scatwoman said:

Cloudbuster said:

doody doody doody doody
doody doody

doody doody doody doody

smile


drool3


batting eyes
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Reply #110 posted 10/15/04 8:25am

scatwoman

PREDOMINANT said:

batting eyes


Hello gorgeous. Fancy a little poo play? batting eyes
"The Pentagon controls every word and image the American people reads or sees in mass media."
Richard Perle 2004, at a press conference in the Pentagon.
doody
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Reply #111 posted 10/15/04 8:27am

PREDOMINANT

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scatwoman said:

PREDOMINANT said:

batting eyes


Hello gorgeous. Fancy a little poo play? batting eyes


I am sorry, I am washing my hat tonight.
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Reply #112 posted 10/15/04 8:29am

scatwoman

PREDOMINANT said:

I am sorry, I am washing my hat tonight.


I'm not surprised. It's covered in shit. lol

drool
"The Pentagon controls every word and image the American people reads or sees in mass media."
Richard Perle 2004, at a press conference in the Pentagon.
doody
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Reply #113 posted 10/15/04 8:34am

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I have changed hat, now I can play. Where is that CB?
For those of you who missed my shiny helmet....
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Reply #114 posted 10/15/04 8:38am

scatwoman

POSTDOMINANT said:

I have changed hat, now I can play. Where is that CB?


batting eyes
"The Pentagon controls every word and image the American people reads or sees in mass media."
Richard Perle 2004, at a press conference in the Pentagon.
doody
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Reply #115 posted 10/15/04 8:42am

POSTDOMINANT

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scatwoman said:

POSTDOMINANT said:

I have changed hat, now I can play. Where is that CB?


batting eyes


Get away from me lady, I want Cloudy fit
For those of you who missed my shiny helmet....
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Reply #116 posted 10/15/04 8:44am

scatwoman

POSTDOMINANT said:

scatwoman said:

batting eyes


Get away from me lady, I want Cloudy fit


Cloudy ran out of juice for the day. I'm the next best thing. Better, some would say. batting eyes
"The Pentagon controls every word and image the American people reads or sees in mass media."
Richard Perle 2004, at a press conference in the Pentagon.
doody
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Reply #117 posted 10/15/04 8:50am

POSTDOMINANT

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scatwoman said:

POSTDOMINANT said:



Get away from me lady, I want Cloudy fit


Cloudy ran out of juice for the day. I'm the next best thing. Better, some would say. batting eyes


Yea right, imposter, prove it!!!!

Q: How many fingers do i have on my left hand?

Aside: This is something only Scatwoman and Cloudbuster know, she will never get it....hga hahhahahhaha haha
For those of you who missed my shiny helmet....
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Reply #118 posted 10/15/04 8:59am

scatwoman

POSTDOMINANT said:

Yea right, imposter, prove it!!!!

Q: How many fingers do i have on my left hand?

Aside: This is something only Scatwoman and Cloudbuster know, she will never get it....hga hahhahahhaha haha


If I know already then how would I get it wrong? hmm
"The Pentagon controls every word and image the American people reads or sees in mass media."
Richard Perle 2004, at a press conference in the Pentagon.
doody
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Reply #119 posted 10/15/04 9:06am

POSTDOMINANT

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scatwoman said:

POSTDOMINANT said:

Yea right, imposter, prove it!!!!

Q: How many fingers do i have on my left hand?

Aside: This is something only Scatwoman and Cloudbuster know, she will never get it....hga hahhahahhaha haha


If I know already then how would I get it wrong? hmm


Aside: Damn, she is cleverer than I thought. Notice she still hasn't answered though, hmmm
For those of you who missed my shiny helmet....
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