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let's not 4get where George Lucas got his inspiration for Star Wars... Kakushi toride no San-Akunin
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Kurosawa ROCKS!! Seriously, if you are a fan of SW, you have to check out his films! They have all been a HUGE influence on the series.
Lucas has stated his love for Kurosawa over and over, and even acknowledges that Star Wars (A New Hope) is essentially a remake of The Hidden Fortress set in space. Great stuff!!! ---- [Edited 9/21/04 12:20pm] 
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JediMaster said: Kurosawa ROCKS!! Seriously, if you are a fan of SW, you have to check out his films! They have all been a HUGE influence on the series.
Lucas has stated his love for Kurosawa over and over, and even acknowledges that Star Wars (A New Hope) is essentially a remake of The Hidden Fortress set in space. Great stuff!!! ---- [Edited 9/21/04 12:20pm]  | |
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i have my suspicions that this series of books might have had some influence as well. the stories are strikingly - STRIKINGLY - similar to the star wars saga...young apprentice farmboy-cum-knight, headstrong princess in distress, evil masked warlord, old sage mentor, cocky adventuer w/ big hairy monster partner, and so on and so on...very very VERY familiar....
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Anxiety said: i have my suspicions that this series of books might have had some influence as well. the stories are strikingly - STRIKINGLY - similar to the star wars saga...young apprentice farmboy-cum-knight, headstrong princess in distress, evil masked warlord, old sage mentor, cocky adventuer w/ big hairy monster partner, and so on and so on...very very VERY familiar....
Well, its possible. HOWEVER, those are fairly common themes in mythology and fantasy. Lucas used a whole bunch of different influences, from Flash Gordon serials to westerns, so its not impossible that these books were yet another (he's always cited The Lord Of The Rings, and some of those elements show up there as well). When were these books published?? They look familiar, but I've not read them. Is that the same series that The Black Caldroun came from??
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JediMaster said: Anxiety said: i have my suspicions that this series of books might have had some influence as well. the stories are strikingly - STRIKINGLY - similar to the star wars saga...young apprentice farmboy-cum-knight, headstrong princess in distress, evil masked warlord, old sage mentor, cocky adventuer w/ big hairy monster partner, and so on and so on...very very VERY familiar....
Well, its possible. HOWEVER, those are fairly common themes in mythology and fantasy. Lucas used a whole bunch of different influences, from Flash Gordon serials to westerns, so its not impossible that these books were yet another (he's always cited The Lord Of The Rings, and some of those elements show up there as well). When were these books published?? They look familiar, but I've not read them. Is that the same series that The Black Caldroun came from?? I agree. SW uses many common themes...which is why it was so successful. Now, Aren't there actual books that these were based on? Like 9 books? And he sarts the movies with Book 4? Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: JediMaster said: Well, its possible. HOWEVER, those are fairly common themes in mythology and fantasy. Lucas used a whole bunch of different influences, from Flash Gordon serials to westerns, so its not impossible that these books were yet another (he's always cited The Lord Of The Rings, and some of those elements show up there as well). When were these books published?? They look familiar, but I've not read them. Is that the same series that The Black Caldroun came from?? I agree. SW uses many common themes...which is why it was so successful. Now, Aren't there actual books that these were based on? Like 9 books? And he sarts the movies with Book 4? No. There are books of the films, but the films were first (and Episode III won't appear in Novel or film form until next year. There are no books for Episodes VII- IX). Lucas DID write script treatments to 9 films, and started with the fourth (the most accessible, so that if the film flopped it could be self-contained). The original idea was to do a "trilogy of trilogies", with each one representing a different generation of the story. Lucas claims that he won't make the final trilogy (Episode's VII-IX), because he would be too old once he got around to making the final film. Rumours abound that this is actually smokescreen, and that he DOES intend to do the final trilogy (recently, Lucasfilm employees had to sign a non-disclosure agreement pertaining to these episodes. Why have people do this if no films are going to be made?).
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JediMaster said: When were these books published?? They look familiar, but I've not read them. Is that the same series that The Black Caldroun came from?? I believe these books were published in the '50s or early '60s, though I'll have to do a little fact checking to be sure. I remember reading these books when I was just a little guy, back around 1978-79 in grade school. I remember checking out "book of three" from the school library because i thought the cover was cool, then being amazed at how this book was just like "star wars" but seemed to be published years beforehand. it blew my little mind.  | |
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Anxiety said: i have my suspicions that this series of books might have had some influence as well. the stories are strikingly - STRIKINGLY - similar to the star wars saga...young apprentice farmboy-cum-knight, headstrong princess in distress, evil masked warlord, old sage mentor, cocky adventuer w/ big hairy monster partner, and so on and so on...very very VERY familiar....
these were my favorite books growing up! | |
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endorphin74 said:
these were my favorite books growing up! 
OH MY GOD, mine too!  | |
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lloyd alexander! i read those books many times!!!! loved them, still do actually. | |
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Anxiety said: JediMaster said: When were these books published?? They look familiar, but I've not read them. Is that the same series that The Black Caldroun came from?? I believe these books were published in the '50s or early '60s, though I'll have to do a little fact checking to be sure. I remember reading these books when I was just a little guy, back around 1978-79 in grade school. I remember checking out "book of three" from the school library because i thought the cover was cool, then being amazed at how this book was just like "star wars" but seemed to be published years beforehand. it blew my little mind. Sooooo, is that the series that spawned Black Caldroun?
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JediMaster said: Lucas claims that he won't make the final trilogy (Episode's VII-IX), because he would be too old once he got around to making the final film. Rumours abound that this is actually smokescreen, and that he DOES intend to do the final trilogy (recently, Lucasfilm employees had to sign a non-disclosure agreement pertaining to these episodes. Why have people do this if no films are going to be made?).
Gee, you know, it sure would be awful if he was too old to direct 7-9 and had to hire a real director to take over - it'd be like Empire all over again!!! 
Edit: cursed tags... [Edited 9/22/04 10:16am] When the sunlight strikes raindrops in the air, they act as a prism and form a rainbow. The rainbow is a division of white light into many beautiful colors. Regardless of the day, I'm glad you were born. | |
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JediMaster said: Anxiety said: I believe these books were published in the '50s or early '60s, though I'll have to do a little fact checking to be sure. I remember reading these books when I was just a little guy, back around 1978-79 in grade school. I remember checking out "book of three" from the school library because i thought the cover was cool, then being amazed at how this book was just like "star wars" but seemed to be published years beforehand. it blew my little mind. Sooooo, is that the series that spawned Black Caldroun? could be. don't know what you're referring to, but in the books the evil lord of the dead, arawn, revives dead soldiers for his soulless army by putting them into the black caldron after which they become evil fighting zombies. | |
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XxAxX said: JediMaster said: Sooooo, is that the series that spawned Black Caldroun? could be. don't know what you're referring to, but in the books the evil lord of the dead, arawn, revives dead soldiers for his soulless army by putting them into the black caldron after which they become evil fighting zombies. 
One of the books was actually titled "The Black Cauldron." I believe it was the 2nd. Disney titled a dreadful film after this. It may not have been so bad had they not tried to compress all 5 books into a 75 minute film. | |
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endorphin74 said: XxAxX said: could be. don't know what you're referring to, but in the books the evil lord of the dead, arawn, revives dead soldiers for his soulless army by putting them into the black caldron after which they become evil fighting zombies.
One of the books was actually titled "The Black Cauldron." I believe it was the 2nd. Disney titled a dreadful film after this. It may not have been so bad had they not tried to compress all 5 books into a 75 minute film. THAT'S IT!!! I remember this series, but I never read it. I had a friend who had read them, and saw the Disney flick. He complained about how awful the adaptation was, so I skipped it. Still, the whole thing sounded familiar, so that's why I asked. Might have to look into these books. How many are in the series??
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yep samurai sword fighting and a little bit of world politics! ~leggO my Ego    | |
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JediMaster said: endorphin74 said:
One of the books was actually titled "The Black Cauldron." I believe it was the 2nd. Disney titled a dreadful film after this. It may not have been so bad had they not tried to compress all 5 books into a 75 minute film. THAT'S IT!!! I remember this series, but I never read it. I had a friend who had read them, and saw the Disney flick. He complained about how awful the adaptation was, so I skipped it. Still, the whole thing sounded familiar, so that's why I asked. Might have to look into these books. How many are in the series?? There are 5. I reread them a few years back. They were totally a quick, easy and VERY enjoyable read. Even after all these years. | |
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