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Thread started 09/16/04 9:33am

Muse2NOPharaoh

Coyotes killed our Dog

I'm just devastated. Coyotes got in my yard yesterday during the day and got to her. I am just so sick inside. Being a single mom you feel the head of household responsibility. So I feel like I failed to protect her. The children and I cried till we can't anymore. Now my dads here to help me....

Like a 5 year old I called my father.....
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Reply #1 posted 09/16/04 9:34am

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aww Muse...i'm so sorry to hear that. hug my condolences go out to you and your kids. rose
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Reply #2 posted 09/16/04 9:36am

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I am so sorry to hear this.
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Reply #3 posted 09/16/04 9:37am

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Oh man, that is SO sad! I'm truly sorry Muse. hug

I know you feel responsible, but its not your fault. You can't be everywhere all the time. I would be devestated as well. I've got two dogs of my own, and I can't imagine something like this happening to them. sad
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Reply #4 posted 09/16/04 9:38am

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I'm sorry sounds very traumatic

and thats what dad's are for, helping you through the tough times

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Reply #5 posted 09/16/04 9:38am

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I'm sorry Muse sad

How are your kids holding up?






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Reply #6 posted 09/16/04 9:38am

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So sorry to hear your bad news Muse.. sad hug
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Reply #7 posted 09/16/04 9:44am

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thats horrible sad im so sorry for the loss..... and yes, how are the kids doing ? how old are they ? thats a rough thing to go through for all of you, being a single momma myself, i can only imagine the thoughts you are having.... im so sorry sweetie hug
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Reply #8 posted 09/16/04 9:46am

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i'm so sorry muse. my folks just had to put our old dog to sleep and that was hard enuf. but to come home and find it like you did, i truly sympathize with you. sad
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Reply #9 posted 09/16/04 9:47am

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Muse2NOPharaoh said:

I'm just devastated. Coyotes got in my yard yesterday during the day and got to her. I am just so sick inside. Being a single mom you feel the head of household responsibility. So I feel like I failed to protect her. The children and I cried till we can't anymore. Now my dads here to help me....

Like a 5 year old I called my father.....


Sorry to hear this, Muse. hug

They run in my neighborhood too, and no one has "outdoor" cats anymore. It's sad - but they are just hungry and come down fromthe foothills looking for food and water... Still, I know I'd be devastated if one got a pet of mine.
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Reply #10 posted 09/16/04 9:49am

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hug muse I am so sorry about the dog. I am glad that you and the kids are allright though, if you need anything let me know, hug
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Reply #11 posted 09/16/04 9:50am

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i'm so sorry to hear that. hug rose
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Reply #12 posted 09/16/04 9:54am

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Sorry to hear that sad hug
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Reply #13 posted 09/16/04 10:09am

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Fucking Coyotes, they're like vultures. I used to get them in my yard too and I was horrified. I know you must be devastated...and I only hope you weren't there to witness it or hear it. I hope you and your children heal quickly...perhaps you can get your yard fenced in if you get another dog? I think coyotes should be shot until distinction. They're good for nothing.
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Reply #14 posted 09/16/04 10:20am

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I'm so sorry.

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Reply #15 posted 09/16/04 10:21am

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Fucking Coyotes, they're like vultures. I used to get them in my yard too and I was horrified. I know you must be devastated...and I only hope you weren't there to witness it or hear it. I hope you and your children heal quickly...perhaps you can get your yard fenced in if you get another dog? I think coyotes should be shot until distinction. They're good for nothing.



I have 6 ft fences. Humane society says it is not unusual for them to come down during the day or get over a fence. No more animals here for me.
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Reply #16 posted 09/16/04 10:24am

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Reply #17 posted 09/16/04 10:28am

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So sorry to hear that sad hug
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Reply #18 posted 09/16/04 10:31am

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Muse2NOPharaoh said:

I'm just devastated. Coyotes got in my yard yesterday during the day and got to her. I am just so sick inside. Being a single mom you feel the head of household responsibility. So I feel like I failed to protect her. The children and I cried till we can't anymore. Now my dads here to help me....

Like a 5 year old I called my father.....

hug I'm so sorry. with I could take back time and be there to kick some coyote's ass, but unfortunatly I was too busy being here in Israel sad
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Reply #19 posted 09/16/04 10:42am

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I am so sorry, Muse... sad rose I understand completely that feeling that your pet is part of the family, a family you feel is your responsibility to care for and protect. I hope your kids are dealing with the situation well...that's one extraordinarily tough lesson for them to learn about nature. *sigh* hug
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Reply #20 posted 09/16/04 11:49am

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Oh, I'm sorry to hear about that.
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Reply #21 posted 09/16/04 11:53am

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So sorry to hear, terrible sad

Last winter a lynx took my friends dog sad
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Reply #22 posted 09/16/04 12:54pm

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if i were you (and im not being coy here), id watch a shitload of road-runner cartoons right now. watching that coyote get the shit blown out of him and dropped off of cliffs would cheer me up a little bit. i know it may sound stupid, but thats just how i deal with shit like that. fucking coyotes!
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Reply #23 posted 09/16/04 12:56pm

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Unfortunately, they coyotes who've learned that there's easy prey in some yards, will keep coming back to the inhabitated areas cos the pets are like a smorgasbord to them, why work for your food if it's there free for the taking? It's more difficult with the canine species because they are herd/flock animals, with a lynx if you kill the offending lynx you get rid of the problem but it's very hard to kill an entire family of coyotes, chances are there'll be at least one to show the others the way.
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Reply #24 posted 09/16/04 1:05pm

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Teacher said:

Unfortunately, they coyotes who've learned that there's easy prey in some yards, will keep coming back to the inhabitated areas cos the pets are like a smorgasbord to them, why work for your food if it's there free for the taking? It's more difficult with the canine species because they are herd/flock animals, with a lynx if you kill the offending lynx you get rid of the problem but it's very hard to kill an entire family of coyotes, chances are there'll be at least one to show the others the way.


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True. Best bet is for the local authorities to take some sort of action to thin out the populations, but that is always problematic. Of course, you could take matters into your own hands by killing the beasties when they come into your yard, but that opens up a whole other can of worms. It truly sucks, because it becomes very difficult to deal with this kind of thing.

Muse, you have reported this to the authorities, right?? I know you mentioned talking to the Humane Society about it, but my thinking is this: how long until this happens to someone's kid??? When that happens, I guarantee action will be taken, but it will be too late.
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Reply #25 posted 09/16/04 1:08pm

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Unfortunately, they coyotes who've learned that there's easy prey in some yards, will keep coming back to the inhabitated areas cos the pets are like a smorgasbord to them, why work for your food if it's there free for the taking? It's more difficult with the canine species because they are herd/flock animals, with a lynx if you kill the offending lynx you get rid of the problem but it's very hard to kill an entire family of coyotes, chances are there'll be at least one to show the others the way.



I have found out a whole lot more. Like..... Likely they live in my neighborhood. That we have interupted there area to such a point they are moving in. That daytime kills are now common. They aren't afraid of us anymore because we tend to ignore there presence and they run right down the streets.

Also fruit trees and especially those who have hanging vines over the fences draw them in. I have fig vines covering all my fences.. That they often fall creating tunnels where they may actually nest and live.... Ours fell creating a tunnel earlier this year. I left it as Felicia loved running down through it like a dog run and it gave her a cool spot ..... Mind you I live in a track with high fences all the way around. I am so in shock. I adored our little girl!
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Reply #26 posted 09/16/04 1:11pm

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Muse2NOPharaoh said:

Teacher said:

Unfortunately, they coyotes who've learned that there's easy prey in some yards, will keep coming back to the inhabitated areas cos the pets are like a smorgasbord to them, why work for your food if it's there free for the taking? It's more difficult with the canine species because they are herd/flock animals, with a lynx if you kill the offending lynx you get rid of the problem but it's very hard to kill an entire family of coyotes, chances are there'll be at least one to show the others the way.



I have found out a whole lot more. Like..... Likely they live in my neighborhood. That we have interupted there area to such a point they are moving in. That daytime kills are now common. They aren't afraid of us anymore because we tend to ignore there presence and they run right down the streets.

Also fruit trees and especially those who have hanging vines over the fences draw them in. I have fig vines covering all my fences.. That they often fall creating tunnels where they may actually nest and live.... Ours fell creating a tunnel earlier this year. I left it as Felicia loved running down through it like a dog run and it gave her a cool spot ..... Mind you I live in a track with high fences all the way around. I am so in shock. I adored our little girl!



It's hard to know what to do, the whole issue with invading the wildlife space is tricky. Generally I don't approve of that kind of invasion, but once there are people there things change. Another thing is this "can we really blame the wild animals for adapting to new conditions when people do the exact same thing?"
It's tricky and hard to navigate these issues.
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Reply #27 posted 09/16/04 1:15pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

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Muse2NOPharaoh said:




I have found out a whole lot more. Like..... Likely they live in my neighborhood. That we have interupted there area to such a point they are moving in. That daytime kills are now common. They aren't afraid of us anymore because we tend to ignore there presence and they run right down the streets.

Also fruit trees and especially those who have hanging vines over the fences draw them in. I have fig vines covering all my fences.. That they often fall creating tunnels where they may actually nest and live.... Ours fell creating a tunnel earlier this year. I left it as Felicia loved running down through it like a dog run and it gave her a cool spot ..... Mind you I live in a track with high fences all the way around. I am so in shock. I adored our little girl!



It's hard to know what to do, the whole issue with invading the wildlife space is tricky. Generally I don't approve of that kind of invasion, but once there are people there things change. Another thing is this "can we really blame the wild animals for adapting to new conditions when people do the exact same thing?"
It's tricky and hard to navigate these issues.


No I understand. I have spoke to enough activists today to get that point. (Though I am having hard time since its my pet they got to.)

Heres another fact. Sympathizers are actually FEEDING them. The humane society said that with people feeding them they are becoming a part of our neighborhoods.
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Reply #28 posted 09/16/04 1:24pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

JediMaster said:

Teacher said:

Unfortunately, they coyotes who've learned that there's easy prey in some yards, will keep coming back to the inhabitated areas cos the pets are like a smorgasbord to them, why work for your food if it's there free for the taking? It's more difficult with the canine species because they are herd/flock animals, with a lynx if you kill the offending lynx you get rid of the problem but it's very hard to kill an entire family of coyotes, chances are there'll be at least one to show the others the way.


nod

True. Best bet is for the local authorities to take some sort of action to thin out the populations, but that is always problematic. Of course, you could take matters into your own hands by killing the beasties when they come into your yard, but that opens up a whole other can of worms. It truly sucks, because it becomes very difficult to deal with this kind of thing.

Muse, you have reported this to the authorities, right?? I know you mentioned talking to the Humane Society about it, but my thinking is this: how long until this happens to someone's kid??? When that happens, I guarantee action will be taken, but it will be too late.


I have had 3 seperate officers from the humane society either here or talking to me. Yes, they gave advice...like if we see them we throw something or a stream of water.... So they don't feel so comfortable around humans. They have made a formal report to The City and also another to a activist society that will push the city to trap if it appears that they have a greater risk problem growing. I inquired about the kid thing over and over..... As it were traditionally they will not take interest but they advise small children are not left alone. Mind you this all said I am in the center of a bedroom community not a rural area. I just didn't see it as an issue for the area as a city dweller...
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Reply #29 posted 09/16/04 1:25pm

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Muse2NOPharaoh said:

Teacher said:




It's hard to know what to do, the whole issue with invading the wildlife space is tricky. Generally I don't approve of that kind of invasion, but once there are people there things change. Another thing is this "can we really blame the wild animals for adapting to new conditions when people do the exact same thing?"
It's tricky and hard to navigate these issues.


No I understand. I have spoke to enough activists today to get that point. (Though I am having hard time since its my pet they got to.)

Heres another fact. Sympathizers are actually FEEDING them. The humane society said that with people feeding them they are becoming a part of our neighborhoods.


mad Feeding them? That should be illegal! Some people are so stupid it makes me cry sometimes. I understand that they THINK they're doing the right thing cos they invaded the coyotes' space in the first place, but it won't help the animals to create another living space somewhere else. Darn do-gooders mad
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