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Thread started 09/09/04 8:06am

CherrieMoonKis
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Consenual?

So what if a guy you liked and liked you came over to your house and things heated up between you two but you tried to stop it before it got out of hand, but he doesnt listen and contiues on. So you let him go a little further but still dont want to go all the way when suddenly he does go ALL THE WAY and you beg and plead and cry for him to stop but he continues and tries to talk you into it and over powers you. He eventually stops but damage is already done.
And your were a virgin. And you wind up "dating" the guy but still is hung up over the fact that you may have been forced to give it up...was it consenual?
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Reply #1 posted 09/09/04 8:10am

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Doesn't sound like it to me.
Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard!
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Reply #2 posted 09/09/04 8:17am

podiumdancer

erm

are you really asking

the answer is obvious

NO IT ISN'T
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Reply #3 posted 09/09/04 8:20am

mdiver

Absolutely not
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Reply #4 posted 09/09/04 8:29am

TheFrog

that's practically a definition of non-consensual.
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Reply #5 posted 09/09/04 8:32am

Lleena

no.
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Reply #6 posted 09/09/04 8:40am

nesseone

No means NO!!!
A "real" man respects you and what you say.
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Reply #7 posted 09/09/04 9:44am

CherrieMoonKis
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Thanx. Thats what I thought.
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Reply #8 posted 09/09/04 9:53am

sag10

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Yep, no is no!

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Reply #9 posted 09/09/04 9:58am

Teacher

Been there, done that, and no it's still rape.
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Reply #10 posted 09/09/04 11:39am

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CherrieMoonKisses said:

So what if a guy you liked and liked you came over to your house and things heated up between you two but you tried to stop it before it got out of hand, but he doesnt listen and contiues on. So you let him go a little further but still dont want to go all the way when suddenly he does go ALL THE WAY and you beg and plead and cry for him to stop but he continues and tries to talk you into it and over powers you. He eventually stops but damage is already done.
And your were a virgin. And you wind up "dating" the guy but still is hung up over the fact that you may have been forced to give it up...was it consenual?



Sounds like rape to me. Not consensual.
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Reply #11 posted 09/09/04 11:44am

Byron

My ex-wife "lost" her virginity in that very scenario... sad ...and it was shortly after her older brother had died in a car crash...and it was one of her brother's friends. sigh It was moments like these in her life, which I know now caused me to want to "protect" her and "rescue" her...even if I didn't love her. rose

consensual??...No, not in my eyes.
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Reply #12 posted 09/09/04 11:44am

CinisterCee

Classic, classic...

Classic example of a...(a date rape)
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Reply #13 posted 09/09/04 6:00pm

jerseykrs

Byron said:

My ex-wife "lost" her virginity in that very scenario... sad ...and it was shortly after her older brother had died in a car crash...and it was one of her brother's friends. sigh It was moments like these in her life, which I know now caused me to want to "protect" her and "rescue" her...even if I didn't love her. rose

consensual??...No, not in my eyes.


Byron, that sounds so similar to my situation, and your reactions sound exactly like mine also.....

why is life so god damned fucked sometimes??
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Reply #14 posted 09/09/04 6:02pm

jerseykrs

CinisterCee said:

Classic, classic...

Classic example of a...(a date rape)


Let me tell you about a girl I know,
Had a drink about an hour ago.
Sitting in a corner by herself, in a bar in downtown hell.

She heard a noise and she looked through the door.
And saw a man she’d never seen before.
Light skin, light blue eyes, a double-chin and a plastic smile.
Well, her eyebrow raised as he walked through the door
And took an empty seat next to her at the bar.
’my brand new car is parked right outside. how’d ya like to go for a ride? ’
And she said.’wait a minute I have to think.’
He said, ’that’s fine. may I please buy you a drink’
One drink turned into 3 or 4 and they left and got into his car
And they drove away someplace real far.

Now babe the time has come.
How’d ya like to have a little fun?
And she said.’ if we could only please be on our way, I will not run.’

That’s when things got out of control.
She didn’t want to, he had his way.
She said, ’let’s go’
He said, ’no way!’
Come on babe it’s your lucky day.
Shut your mouth, were gonna do it my way.
Come on baby don’t be afraid,
If it wasn’t for date rape I’d never get laid.

He finished up and he started the car
He turned around and drove back to the bar.
He said.’now baby don’t be sad, in my opinion you weren’t half-bad.’
She picked up a rock.,threw it at the car, hit him in the head, now his got a big scar.
Come on party people won’t you listen to me.
Date rape stylie.

The next day she went to her drawer, looked up her local attorney at law,
Went to the phone and filed the police report and then she took the guy’s ass to court.
Well, the day he stood in front of the judge he screamed, ’ she lies that little slut!’
The judge knew that he was full of shit and he gave him 25 years
And now his heart is filled with tears.

That night in jail it was getting late.
He was butt-raped by a large inmate, and he screamed.
But the guards paid no attention to his cries.

That’s when things got out of control.
The moral of the date rape story, it does not pay to be drunk and horny.
But that’s the way it had to be.
They locked him up and threw away the key.
Well, I can’t take pity on men of his kind,
Even though he now takes it in the behind.
[Edited 9/9/04 18:05pm]
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Reply #15 posted 09/09/04 6:03pm

Natisse

CherrieMoonKisses said:

So what if a guy you liked and liked you came over to your house and things heated up between you two but you tried to stop it before it got out of hand, but he doesnt listen and contiues on. So you let him go a little further but still dont want to go all the way when suddenly he does go ALL THE WAY and you beg and plead and cry for him to stop but he continues and tries to talk you into it and over powers you. He eventually stops but damage is already done.
And your were a virgin. And you wind up "dating" the guy but still is hung up over the fact that you may have been forced to give it up...was it consenual?


Cherrie if this has happened to you or someone you know REPORT IT...it's never too late

it shouldn't happen and noone deserves to be treated that way
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Reply #16 posted 09/09/04 6:09pm

HollowellSA

seeing someone,dating someone, even married if you say no and they still proceed
it's still rape. If this has happened to you I am deeply sorry confused
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Reply #17 posted 09/09/04 6:38pm

Mach

CherrieMoonKisses said:

So what if a guy you liked and liked you came over to your house and things heated up between you two but you tried to stop it before it got out of hand, but he doesnt listen and contiues on. So you let him go a little further but still dont want to go all the way when suddenly he does go ALL THE WAY and you beg and plead and cry for him to stop but he continues and tries to talk you into it and over powers you. He eventually stops but damage is already done.
And your were a virgin. And you wind up "dating" the guy but still is hung up over the fact that you may have been forced to give it up...was it consenual?



hmmmm

NO

maybe even rape ~shrugs~

but you continued to date ....

~ shakes her head ~
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Reply #18 posted 09/09/04 6:54pm

SnowQueen

If the woman was crying, begging, and PLEADING for the man to stop and he didn't, it sounds like a rape to me.

Why anybody would willingly continue to date a man who did that to them perplexes me, though. sigh
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Reply #19 posted 09/09/04 7:53pm

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SnowQueen said:

If the woman was crying, begging, and PLEADING for the man to stop and he didn't, it sounds like a rape to me.

Why anybody would willingly continue to date a man who did that to them perplexes me, though. sigh



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Reply #20 posted 09/09/04 9:08pm

ThreadBare

This sounds like William Kennedy Smith's case.
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Reply #21 posted 09/09/04 9:08pm

ThreadBare

Um, I mean the present case -- not the old one.
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Reply #22 posted 09/09/04 10:48pm

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CherrieMoonKisses said:

So what if a guy you liked and liked you came over to your house and things heated up between you two but you tried to stop it before it got out of hand, but he doesnt listen and contiues on. So you let him go a little further but still dont want to go all the way when suddenly he does go ALL THE WAY and you beg and plead and cry for him to stop but he continues and tries to talk you into it and over powers you. He eventually stops but damage is already done.


Did that person kick, bite, pound her fist on him and scream?

And your were a virgin. And you wind up "dating" the guy but still is hung up over the fact that you may have been forced to give it up...was it consenual?


And the person winds up dating the guy? hmm

Come on now!!!
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