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Thread started 09/02/04 7:21am

slm4m

Passion Of the Christ DVD thread

I watched this film the other day. It is one of the best movies I've seen in a while. The DVD transfer was excellent. It (the movie) was better than I expected.

Have you DVD bought or rented the DVD?

What was your favorite thing about the movie?

I love the sound of the language and the overall tone of the movie and the photography was spectacular.
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Reply #1 posted 09/02/04 7:25am

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Reply #2 posted 09/02/04 7:28am

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UH..what?
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Reply #3 posted 09/02/04 8:08am

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My brother bought me the DVD yesterday...

I'll watch it this weekend.
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Reply #4 posted 09/02/04 8:19am

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I was going to buy it. But I think there may be a special editon of it. So I'll wait a week or two. Unless there's one already out. confuse
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Reply #5 posted 09/02/04 8:25am

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Chico1 said:

I was going to buy it. But I think there may be a special editon of it. So I'll wait a week or two. Unless there's one already out. confuse



No, there is no SE version yet. The DVD contains the movie itself. A SE would be nice (with extra footage.) I'll bet there will be at least a two disc set soon. I would like to see a "directors cut." Then again, maybe this version is the director's cut.
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Reply #6 posted 09/02/04 8:35am

Chico1

What are the bonus features; if any, on the one you bought?
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Reply #7 posted 09/02/04 8:40am

slm4m

Chico1 said:

What are the bonus features; if any, on the one you bought?


No bonus features on this release.
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Reply #8 posted 09/02/04 8:41am

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I watched a rented copy last night no bonus features on it and i'm still numb about it all, need time to mull it over in my head i think....
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Reply #9 posted 09/02/04 8:43am

slm4m

sag10 said:

My brother bought me the DVD yesterday...

I'll watch it this weekend.


Did you see it in the theater? If not be prepared for an emotional experience -- I say that even though I am not religous.
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Reply #10 posted 09/02/04 8:50am

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Reply #11 posted 09/02/04 12:51pm

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Out of curiosity rather than religious devotion I actually went to the cinema to see it. I actually came out of it thinking I'd just witnessed a horror film than a religious epic and to some extent perhaps that is what it is meant to be or what Mel Gibson was trying to achieve. It is indeed fantastically violent. I think it aims to do what exploitation horror cinema should do, which is to kind of batter the audience into a sense of almost transcendent experience and in this sense guilt. Although it is very violent, I think it shoots itself in the foot in a way. Although I found the flogging scene terribly upsetting and disturbing, I got used to the sight of his flesh being covered in blood. By the time the nails went in, I wasn't really very moved.

What I also found dissapointing about the film was that I got the impression that Gibson assumes that you would be overwhelmed by emotion and not being terribly religious I wasn't. I thought the most emotive scenes and were fantastic and worked but we didn't get enough of them, were the bits where we saw him doing his teaching, we saw him being alive and happy, and spiritual, and quite exciting. And also his relationship with his mother. The most moving sequence for me being when Jesus stumbles carrying the cross to which Mary rushes to his aid, cut to a flashback where we see Jesus as a young boy trip and fall. Again, Mary rushes to help her son.

I don't think the film actually works as a vehicle for Christianity as such. I think it works more as a visceral horror experience. To be honest, I've found films such as the 'Shawshank Redemption' a much more satisfying and religious experience.
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JDINTERACTIVE said:



I don't think the film actually works as a vehicle for Christianity as such. I think it works more as a visceral horror experience.


I couldn't agree more. I saw that it was on DVD the other day and I can't for the life of me figure out why someone would want to see it more than once. Out of curiosity more than anything I saw it in the theatre. Not being a christian and having never read the bible, I had to ask lots of question after it was over to get a full sense of who everyone was, reason behind some of the things, etc. Certainly not a tool for conversion. But a fantastic display of violence and suffering, no doubt.
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CarrieMpls said:

JDINTERACTIVE said:



I don't think the film actually works as a vehicle for Christianity as such. I think it works more as a visceral horror experience.


fantastic display of violence and suffering, no doubt.



i never saw it, dont want to, but my mother saw it, and said it was disturbing at best, there was no 'miracles' to speak of, just torture and blood.... nothing i want to see in that, shame, they had an opportunity to bring folks closer to religion, instead, mr. gibson cashed in on the violence that this society is so filled with..... shame when you think of it.
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Reply #14 posted 09/02/04 4:11pm

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nakedpianoplayer said:

CarrieMpls said:



fantastic display of violence and suffering, no doubt.



i never saw it, dont want to, but my mother saw it, and said it was disturbing at best, there was no 'miracles' to speak of, just torture and blood.... nothing i want to see in that, shame, they had an opportunity to bring folks closer to religion, instead, mr. gibson cashed in on the violence that this society is so filled with..... shame when you think of it.


I think to some extent that Gibson was trying to draw people to religion through the violence. My impression is is that Gibson was trying to portray the message that here is a man so great and so loving that he would die and suffer for all our sins.
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Reply #15 posted 09/02/04 4:19pm

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Reply #16 posted 09/02/04 4:20pm

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JDINTERACTIVE said:

Out of curiosity rather than religious devotion I actually went to the cinema to see it. I actually came out of it thinking I'd just witnessed a horror film than a religious epic and to some extent perhaps that is what it is meant to be or what Mel Gibson was trying to achieve. It is indeed fantastically violent. I think it aims to do what exploitation horror cinema should do, which is to kind of batter the audience into a sense of almost transcendent experience and in this sense guilt. Although it is very violent, I think it shoots itself in the foot in a way. Although I found the flogging scene terribly upsetting and disturbing, I got used to the sight of his flesh being covered in blood. By the time the nails went in, I wasn't really very moved.

What I also found dissapointing about the film was that I got the impression that Gibson assumes that you would be overwhelmed by emotion and not being terribly religious I wasn't. I thought the most emotive scenes and were fantastic and worked but we didn't get enough of them, were the bits where we saw him doing his teaching, we saw him being alive and happy, and spiritual, and quite exciting. And also his relationship with his mother. The most moving sequence for me being when Jesus stumbles carrying the cross to which Mary rushes to his aid, cut to a flashback where we see Jesus as a young boy trip and fall. Again, Mary rushes to help her son.

I don't think the film actually works as a vehicle for Christianity as such. I think it works more as a visceral horror experience. To be honest, I've found films such as the 'Shawshank Redemption' a much more satisfying and religious experience.

falloff It was violent and scary.
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Reply #17 posted 09/02/04 4:38pm

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JDINTERACTIVE said:

Out of curiosity rather than religious devotion I actually went to the cinema to see it. I actually came out of it thinking I'd just witnessed a horror film than a religious epic and to some extent perhaps that is what it is meant to be or what Mel Gibson was trying to achieve. It is indeed fantastically violent. I think it aims to do what exploitation horror cinema should do, which is to kind of batter the audience into a sense of almost transcendent experience and in this sense guilt. Although it is very violent, I think it shoots itself in the foot in a way. Although I found the flogging scene terribly upsetting and disturbing, I got used to the sight of his flesh being covered in blood. By the time the nails went in, I wasn't really very moved.

What I also found dissapointing about the film was that I got the impression that Gibson assumes that you would be overwhelmed by emotion and not being terribly religious I wasn't. I thought the most emotive scenes and were fantastic and worked but we didn't get enough of them, were the bits where we saw him doing his teaching, we saw him being alive and happy, and spiritual, and quite exciting. And also his relationship with his mother. The most moving sequence for me being when Jesus stumbles carrying the cross to which Mary rushes to his aid, cut to a flashback where we see Jesus as a young boy trip and fall. Again, Mary rushes to help her son.

I don't think the film actually works as a vehicle for Christianity as such. I think it works more as a visceral horror experience. To be honest, I've found films such as the 'Shawshank Redemption' a much more satisfying and religious experience.



Yup. This film may be one of the few cultural milestones to be produced by the film world since the 2000s hit, but that doesn't make it a GOOD film. And you know what REALLY irks me? All these fundamentalist, Bush-voting, abortion-clinic bombing Christians will hail this film...but then attack a Tarantino or John Woo film for being too violent.

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Reply #18 posted 09/02/04 4:41pm

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CCII said:

JDINTERACTIVE said:

Out of curiosity rather than religious devotion I actually went to the cinema to see it. I actually came out of it thinking I'd just witnessed a horror film than a religious epic and to some extent perhaps that is what it is meant to be or what Mel Gibson was trying to achieve. It is indeed fantastically violent. I think it aims to do what exploitation horror cinema should do, which is to kind of batter the audience into a sense of almost transcendent experience and in this sense guilt. Although it is very violent, I think it shoots itself in the foot in a way. Although I found the flogging scene terribly upsetting and disturbing, I got used to the sight of his flesh being covered in blood. By the time the nails went in, I wasn't really very moved.

What I also found dissapointing about the film was that I got the impression that Gibson assumes that you would be overwhelmed by emotion and not being terribly religious I wasn't. I thought the most emotive scenes and were fantastic and worked but we didn't get enough of them, were the bits where we saw him doing his teaching, we saw him being alive and happy, and spiritual, and quite exciting. And also his relationship with his mother. The most moving sequence for me being when Jesus stumbles carrying the cross to which Mary rushes to his aid, cut to a flashback where we see Jesus as a young boy trip and fall. Again, Mary rushes to help her son.

I don't think the film actually works as a vehicle for Christianity as such. I think it works more as a visceral horror experience. To be honest, I've found films such as the 'Shawshank Redemption' a much more satisfying and religious experience.

falloff It was violent and scary.
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Reply #19 posted 09/02/04 9:16pm

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slm4m said:

Chico1 said:

What are the bonus features; if any, on the one you bought?


No bonus features on this release.



pout I'll wait then. neutral
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Reply #20 posted 09/03/04 7:27am

slm4m

I might get flamed for this, but curcifing people was likely more violent in real life than in any movie. During that time, nailing people to a cross or a beam was the method putting people to death. Many victims died on their way to the cross.

I don't understand the "too violent" stance when crucifixion was indeed violent. I think Gibson got it right. After all it is called "The Passion."
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Reply #21 posted 09/03/04 7:38am

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Case said:

JDINTERACTIVE said:

Out of curiosity rather than religious devotion I actually went to the cinema to see it. I actually came out of it thinking I'd just witnessed a horror film than a religious epic and to some extent perhaps that is what it is meant to be or what Mel Gibson was trying to achieve. It is indeed fantastically violent. I think it aims to do what exploitation horror cinema should do, which is to kind of batter the audience into a sense of almost transcendent experience and in this sense guilt. Although it is very violent, I think it shoots itself in the foot in a way. Although I found the flogging scene terribly upsetting and disturbing, I got used to the sight of his flesh being covered in blood. By the time the nails went in, I wasn't really very moved.

What I also found dissapointing about the film was that I got the impression that Gibson assumes that you would be overwhelmed by emotion and not being terribly religious I wasn't. I thought the most emotive scenes and were fantastic and worked but we didn't get enough of them, were the bits where we saw him doing his teaching, we saw him being alive and happy, and spiritual, and quite exciting. And also his relationship with his mother. The most moving sequence for me being when Jesus stumbles carrying the cross to which Mary rushes to his aid, cut to a flashback where we see Jesus as a young boy trip and fall. Again, Mary rushes to help her son.

I don't think the film actually works as a vehicle for Christianity as such. I think it works more as a visceral horror experience. To be honest, I've found films such as the 'Shawshank Redemption' a much more satisfying and religious experience.



Yup. This film may be one of the few cultural milestones to be produced by the film world since the 2000s hit, but that doesn't make it a GOOD film. And you know what REALLY irks me? All these fundamentalist, Bush-voting, abortion-clinic bombing Christians will hail this film...but then attack a Tarantino or John Woo film for being too violent.

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Yeah, that's bound too happen -- you must admit Gibson is brave in his position and his belief. Got to give him credit.
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Reply #22 posted 09/03/04 8:04am

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slm4m said:

I might get flamed for this, but curcifing people was likely more violent in real life than in any movie. During that time, nailing people to a cross or a beam was the method putting people to death. Many victims died on their way to the cross.

I don't understand the "too violent" stance when crucifixion was indeed violent. I think Gibson got it right. After all it is called "The Passion."


agreed.

I don't think this movie was about conversion but to show those who say they are Christian what was Christianity is about. It was a violent death. They didn't just hit Jesus a couple of times. They beat his ass...

When I saw the movie in the theater, I cried like a baby. I was a reminder of what my faith is about.
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Reply #23 posted 09/03/04 8:31am

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Rhondab said:

slm4m said:

I might get flamed for this, but curcifing people was likely more violent in real life than in any movie. During that time, nailing people to a cross or a beam was the method putting people to death. Many victims died on their way to the cross.

I don't understand the "too violent" stance when crucifixion was indeed violent. I think Gibson got it right. After all it is called "The Passion."


agreed.

I don't think this movie was about conversion but to show those who say they are Christian what was Christianity is about. It was a violent death. They didn't just hit Jesus a couple of times. They beat his ass...

When I saw the movie in the theater, I cried like a baby. I was a reminder of what my faith is about.



I cried too - and I was just like the bystanders in the movie, I was thinking what they were yelling " Stop it, stop it, this is crazy, stop it!" I think that was the desired effect that Gibson wanted too have on the audience. He wanted the "movie goer" to be standing on the path watching this horriffic event. That what it was like for me.
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