I know this has already been said but I'm going to say it again..I got married young and thought it was true love and I thought he was my soulmate. I was 18(which is too young in the first place) Now that I've grown up and finding out who I am I know now that it wasn't true love but setteling. I setteled for the first man who paid me attention and we have both been emotionaly abusive to eachother. I do not feel that the last 15 were a waste but a learning experience and I have 4 wonderful and beautiful boys from this. Soon I will be on my own but I have found someone who I truly love and who loves me back. I think the most important thing in any relationship though is friendship. When you fall in love it's exciting and wonderful but it doesn't last, but if you were friends first the love for one another grows even more deeper then the initial love you started out with. This is strictly my opinion though. People can take from this what they want. But to fineally answere the question I do believe in true love. | |
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Freespirit said: J0eyC0c0 said: Love, love, love....
Hey J0eyC0c0... don't get all fresh with me ~Smile ... although here is a for you. I do wish you a beautiful day. Love... It's the most beautiful and the most difficult emotion ever to exist. Spiritual cleansing can be good when all else seems grim. ~Smile. [This message was edited Fri Aug 27 9:03:24 2004 by Freespirit] I'll go cleanse myself with some more beer and weed later. Sorry, I've just been in a "mood" the past few days. | |
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J0eyC0c0 said: Freespirit said: Hey J0eyC0c0... don't get all fresh with me ~Smile ... although here is a for you. I do wish you a beautiful day. Love... It's the most beautiful and the most difficult emotion ever to exist. Spiritual cleansing can be good when all else seems grim. ~Smile. [This message was edited Fri Aug 27 9:03:24 2004 by Freespirit] I'll go cleanse myself with some more beer and weed later. Sorry, I've just been in a "mood" the past few days. You can still accomplish much... while under the influence... it's all in the state of mind. ~Cheers. I do sometimes. Still... | |
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I believe in true love | |
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I believe in true love -- "it just is, and never yearns" -- love that line.
Anyway, from your threads and meeting you, I know that you have a strong capacity for love. What I would offer to you in your search, is to look at what you DO want in a relationship -- what you will put up with, what you want to get out of it. The need for standards and rules is justified, but when it's laid out in the form of "I won't accept this, I won't put up with that, I don't want this, I don't want that...," the Universe only hears, "No." It hears what you don't want, and you don't get it, or anything else, either. Try to take your 4 numbered rules from above and re-work into what you want from a relationship, not what you don't want. http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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madartista said: I believe in true love -- "it just is, and never yearns" -- love that line.
Anyway, from your threads and meeting you, I know that you have a strong capacity for love. What I would offer to you in your search, is to look at what you DO want in a relationship -- what you will put up with, what you want to get out of it. The need for standards and rules is justified, but when it's laid out in the form of "I won't accept this, I won't put up with that, I don't want this, I don't want that...," the Universe only hears, "No." It hears what you don't want, and you don't get it, or anything else, either. Try to take your 4 numbered rules from above and re-work into what you want from a relationship, not what you don't want. What a brilliant suggestion!!! | |
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I do believe in true love although I haven't experienced it yet. For that, perhaps I'm guilty to some extent. I think true love is about being patient, being kind. About not being envious, rude or self-seeking, about not being easily angered. About not keeping record of wrongs. True love in that sense is truth. It's about always protecting, always trusting, always persevering. In this sense, love never fails. Being human and being prone to human error have not always recognised this. Although through experience, I'm slowly learning.
I think true love is falling in love with someone and having that feeling reciprocated. Offering each other a great gift: your being, your time, your energy. True love in this sense is uncompromising. It's either requited or not. It's all or nothing. True love is many-splendored and it all depends on how we define it I guess. It's a great mystery that humans constantly seek the truth. It's perhaps even the greatest mystery bathing in it's own wondrous light. | |
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isn;t true love the same as unconditional love?
if so, then no in my own experience of it, i don't believe ie exists, we as human beings can;t help but be judgemental of others and right there u burst the "love " bubble. | |
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cammille said: isn;t true love the same as unconditional love?
I'd like to know what people consider unconditional, cause in absolute terms I don't think there's such a thing. | |
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Freespirit said: Love exist in many different forms... it's an overpowering sense of emotion that takes you off guard. Love can exist on many different levels, it can be overwhelming... yet it can come to be a mere moment that one can appreciate forever.
Love makes the heart grow fonder of life... I feel and through each moment, with each person it is beautifully unique. The thing about love... is that it is true... if your heart feels it to be. One can carefully collect this sense of love... through life and all moments. Yet one can carelessly handle love as well... and that is where broken hearts exist, leaving a heart vunerable and fearful to trust that sense of love again. Love can be quite difficult... and oh so beautiful... appreciating what simply is for exactly what it is... is important. We all want to gain that sense of love that brings two lives together so intensely (I certainly do)... although that love will always be fragile and in need of constant care. Life was not ever intended to be easy and smooth... it would be too boring and utterly pointless, I believe. That is why... I take life as it comes... the ups and the downs... and appreciate all life lessons. I will not deny that the #1 intent for me is... to find a mutual partner, one that I can beautifully communicate with on a intellectual/spiritual level. I have high standards... (ugh, why or why... but I do)... and I know that fairytale "true love forever"... is a crazy bunch of shit. That is the mysteries to life... one can not predict what life will bring, although we do have the beautiful power to make wise, honest decisions concerning the love we obtain and care for it with the worth it respects to get. Nothing last forever... except the concept of this powerful sense of love... we do have the power to keep it alive as long as we understand the incredible power it brings, it's very forgiving if we choose to view it that way. Love in universal/and endless if we choose it to be. Hang tight Janfriend... you are not alone... we are all in this together. It's a struggle (emotionally) to be single at times... although you are exactly right... it's just as a struggle to be in love with someone and living through each day together. Hmm... take a pick and don't give up... believe that all happens when the time is right. (I sometimes can't stand that saying... wait, wait, wait... I can be the most impatient person in this world) I am choosing to wait... rather than to settle or go back to something I am familiar with or feel safe within... and I am enjoying the ride along the way. Yes, I am. Struggles, challenges... and all that good stuff... are infinite. What the hell do I know. ~Smile. [This message was edited Fri Aug 27 8:55:33 2004 by Freespirit] Oh what the fuck ever. | |
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joey, neither do i. | |
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cammille said: isn;t true love the same as unconditional love?
if so, then no in my own experience of it, i don't believe ie exists, we as human beings can;t help but be judgemental of others and right there u burst the "love " bubble. I too don't think they are one and the same thing. You can turn uncondtional love into hatred. Unconditional love can easily stir up bitterness, anger, jealousy, and regret, among other negative emotions, gradually turning what love should be into its opposite: hatred. Unfortunatly, hatred is easily unconditional. It benefits no one. | |
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i use the love word a lot, in orgnotes, in letters, in texts, i love chocolate, i love prince, i even love u jd! see it's a personal opinion again, love means something different to everyone, some people throw it about meaninglessly some people reserve it for someone very special.
hell! i've had tequila tonite i love u all!!! want to come back to my place??? | |
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cammille said: i use the love word a lot, in orgnotes, in letters, in texts, i love chocolate, i love prince, i even love u jd! see it's a personal opinion again, love means something different to everyone, some people throw it about meaninglessly some people reserve it for someone very special.
hell! i've had tequila tonite i love u all!!! want to come back to my place??? Even me?!!? I think I might faint. | |
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yes jd even u
u know i like to party just bring a bottle of champagne honey | |
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cammille said: yes jd even u
u know i like to party just bring a bottle of champagne honey OK. Love you 2. | |
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JodiHasphin said: Freespirit said: Love exist in many different forms... it's an overpowering sense of emotion that takes you off guard. Love can exist on many different levels, it can be overwhelming... yet it can come to be a mere moment that one can appreciate forever.
Love makes the heart grow fonder of life... I feel and through each moment, with each person it is beautifully unique. The thing about love... is that it is true... if your heart feels it to be. One can carefully collect this sense of love... through life and all moments. Yet one can carelessly handle love as well... and that is where broken hearts exist, leaving a heart vunerable and fearful to trust that sense of love again. Love can be quite difficult... and oh so beautiful... appreciating what simply is for exactly what it is... is important. We all want to gain that sense of love that brings two lives together so intensely (I certainly do)... although that love will always be fragile and in need of constant care. Life was not ever intended to be easy and smooth... it would be too boring and utterly pointless, I believe. That is why... I take life as it comes... the ups and the downs... and appreciate all life lessons. I will not deny that the #1 intent for me is... to find a mutual partner, one that I can beautifully communicate with on a intellectual/spiritual level. I have high standards... (ugh, why or why... but I do)... and I know that fairytale "true love forever"... is a crazy bunch of shit. That is the mysteries to life... one can not predict what life will bring, although we do have the beautiful power to make wise, honest decisions concerning the love we obtain and care for it with the worth it respects to get. Nothing last forever... except the concept of this powerful sense of love... we do have the power to keep it alive as long as we understand the incredible power it brings, it's very forgiving if we choose to view it that way. Love in universal/and endless if we choose it to be. Hang tight Janfriend... you are not alone... we are all in this together. It's a struggle (emotionally) to be single at times... although you are exactly right... it's just as a struggle to be in love with someone and living through each day together. Hmm... take a pick and don't give up... believe that all happens when the time is right. (I sometimes can't stand that saying... wait, wait, wait... I can be the most impatient person in this world) I am choosing to wait... rather than to settle or go back to something I am familiar with or feel safe within... and I am enjoying the ride along the way. Yes, I am. Struggles, challenges... and all that good stuff... are infinite. What the hell do I know. ~Smile. [This message was edited Fri Aug 27 8:55:33 2004 by Freespirit] Oh what the fuck ever. I just read what I wrote earlier... it does sound like a crock of shit. However, it is still what I believe and have lived... many personal moments exists between the line of words. ~Smile. | |
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Freespirit said: JodiHasphin said: Oh what the fuck ever. I just read what I wrote earlier... it does sound like a crock of shit. However, it is still what I believe and have lived... many personal moments exists between the line of words. ~Smile. Girl, I spat out my beer laughing at you. [This message was edited Fri Aug 27 16:21:01 2004 by CCII] | |
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love sigh I'm feelin kind of n-a-s-t-y
I might just take you home with me | |
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BabyGirl said: love sigh
No, the song is called Love Sign. edit: typo (no, I'm not blonde lol) [This message was edited Fri Aug 27 16:32:07 2004 by J0eyC0c0] | |
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J0eyC0c0 said: BabyGirl said: love sigh
No, the sing is called Love Sign. I'm feelin kind of n-a-s-t-y
I might just take you home with me | |
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madartista said: I believe in true love -- "it just is, and never yearns" -- love that line.
Anyway, from your threads and meeting you, I know that you have a strong capacity for love. What I would offer to you in your search, is to look at what you DO want in a relationship -- what you will put up with, what you want to get out of it. The need for standards and rules is justified, but when it's laid out in the form of "I won't accept this, I won't put up with that, I don't want this, I don't want that...," the Universe only hears, "No." It hears what you don't want, and you don't get it, or anything else, either. Try to take your 4 numbered rules from above and re-work into what you want from a relationship, not what you don't want. wow, that is so great what you said, but you know what... without the "don't wants" there is nothing really there. Meaning I really can't put a list of what I want because I don't believe in preferences and part of me feels selfish in saying "I want this this and this" I always figured that if I weed out the ones I don't want, then that will automatically leave the ones I would naturally want because they would be the ones without those things that I dislike I really can't say, in detail, what I want. Well, I kinds can, but I don't have time to say right now. It's very simple. I just wan't someone who will love for who I truly am and not care about my past, good or bad, and who really wants something REAL | |
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i think it exists, but is rare. and, most people 'settle' for what's available rather than wait.
it may be small comfort but i know of more unhappily married couples than happily married ones. | |
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I believe there is always someone destined to be our true love or soulmate in this world. However some of us decide to find it and others either don't care or die trying. | |
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look on the bright side, janfriend. not so long ago you would have likely been forced to marry some old fart because women had no option to work
nowadays you can at least work and support yourself and marry for love, if it pleases you. [This message was edited Fri Aug 27 18:19:27 2004 by XxAxX] | |
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Ex-Moderator | Without reading through all the posts I'll say, I'm right there with you. I don't believe "true love" exists in the soulmate only one person out there for ya kinda way. I believe in love, for certain, nad it comes in many forms. But the true love notion is for story books and love songs. Romantic and beautiful, yes, but true? Nope. |
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CarrieMpls said: Without reading through all the posts I'll say, I'm right there with you. I don't believe "true love" exists in the soulmate only one person out there for ya kinda way. I believe in love, for certain, nad it comes in many forms. But the true love notion is for story books and love songs. Romantic and beautiful, yes, but true? Nope.
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fanasticfan said: CarrieMpls said: Without reading through all the posts I'll say, I'm right there with you. I don't believe "true love" exists in the soulmate only one person out there for ya kinda way. I believe in love, for certain, nad it comes in many forms. But the true love notion is for story books and love songs. Romantic and beautiful, yes, but true? Nope.
co-sign Don't use that magical, mysterious, intoxicating, joy fantastic fascinating word called love unless...2 the 9's | |
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Janfriend said: madartista said: I believe in true love -- "it just is, and never yearns" -- love that line.
Anyway, from your threads and meeting you, I know that you have a strong capacity for love. What I would offer to you in your search, is to look at what you DO want in a relationship -- what you will put up with, what you want to get out of it. The need for standards and rules is justified, but when it's laid out in the form of "I won't accept this, I won't put up with that, I don't want this, I don't want that...," the Universe only hears, "No." It hears what you don't want, and you don't get it, or anything else, either. Try to take your 4 numbered rules from above and re-work into what you want from a relationship, not what you don't want. wow, that is so great what you said, but you know what... without the "don't wants" there is nothing really there. Meaning I really can't put a list of what I want because I don't believe in preferences and part of me feels selfish in saying "I want this this and this" I always figured that if I weed out the ones I don't want, then that will automatically leave the ones I would naturally want because they would be the ones without those things that I dislike I really can't say, in detail, what I want. Well, I kinds can, but I don't have time to say right now. It's very simple. I just wan't someone who will love for who I truly am and not care about my past, good or bad, and who really wants something REAL See, you did it. That was a simple start. Now go deeper, get specific; i.e. I want someone I will see every day, I want someone who will call me, I want someone who is faithful, etc. Knowing what you don't want is fine, just help that define what you do want, and turn the language around. http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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madartista said: Janfriend said: wow, that is so great what you said, but you know what... without the "don't wants" there is nothing really there. Meaning I really can't put a list of what I want because I don't believe in preferences and part of me feels selfish in saying "I want this this and this" I always figured that if I weed out the ones I don't want, then that will automatically leave the ones I would naturally want because they would be the ones without those things that I dislike I really can't say, in detail, what I want. Well, I kinds can, but I don't have time to say right now. It's very simple. I just wan't someone who will love for who I truly am and not care about my past, good or bad, and who really wants something REAL See, you did it. That was a simple start. Now go deeper, get specific; i.e. I want someone I will see every day, I want someone who will call me, I want someone who is faithful, etc. Knowing what you don't want is fine, just help that define what you do want, and turn the language around. I never thought about getting THAT specific. If I do that, I'm afraid that I will want a fantasy person. Someone that will never exist | |
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