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Reply #30 posted 08/18/04 11:51am

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It don't open in Denmark until No-friggin'-vember! bawl

I wanna see it, good or bad - I'll make my own judgment call. nod

I'm in complete scififilmnerd mode. Ijust saw and loved The Chronicles of Riddick because it was a visual feast and I was entertained by it, unlike the utterly boring Spider-Man 2. I saw The Abyss Special Edition today for the first time in a long while and still love it, and tonight I wannna watch Terminator 3. drool

And I finally succumbed to buying Alien Quadrilogy and am really looking forward to getting started on that. drool
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Reply #31 posted 08/18/04 11:54am

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JediMaster said:

Still, it was better than Alien 3


Well, I love Alien3. It was an apocalyptic masterpiece. Sigourney Weaver played her ass off in that one and should have received an Oscar for it. biggrin
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Reply #32 posted 08/18/04 11:57am

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I love the first two Alien films and the first Predator. The other Alien sequels nearly ruined it for me. Because of that, I will be avoiding this one in theatres. As much as I love sci-fi, this doesn't look very entertaining.
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Reply #33 posted 08/18/04 12:28pm

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Natsume said:

hey, I can't wait for Open Water! And I try to stay away from those types of movies. Shark movies just scare the poop out of me. Plus I live near the beach.



Dont bother.. I saw it and it sucked harder than a $10.00 whore! I was very dissapointed!
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Reply #34 posted 08/18/04 12:44pm

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BabyCakes said:

Natsume said:

hey, I can't wait for Open Water! And I try to stay away from those types of movies. Shark movies just scare the poop out of me. Plus I live near the beach.



Dont bother.. I saw it and it sucked harder than a $10.00 whore! I was very dissapointed!

I likeded it. It was clumsy and poorly acted in the "land" scenes, but once they were in the water and were only required to act scurred and scream I really enjoyed it. Good fun.
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Reply #35 posted 08/18/04 12:48pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

BabyCakes said:




Dont bother.. I saw it and it sucked harder than a $10.00 whore! I was very dissapointed!

I likeded it. It was clumsy and poorly acted in the "land" scenes, but once they were in the water and were only required to act scurred and scream I really enjoyed it. Good fun.



I thought it was badly acted, it wasnt' scary at all.. (an occasional bump of a shark on someone) dosent' constitute as being scary for me at all..) They were talking their lines .. yes an occasional scream in the water was OK, i just thought it coudl of been done so much better.. Their was no character development, and the end was horrible.. There were actually boo's given out in the audience of the theater i was in (and they DIDN'T come from me)..
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Reply #36 posted 08/18/04 1:15pm

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BabyCakes said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


I likeded it. It was clumsy and poorly acted in the "land" scenes, but once they were in the water and were only required to act scurred and scream I really enjoyed it. Good fun.



I thought it was badly acted, it wasnt' scary at all.. (an occasional bump of a shark on someone) dosent' constitute as being scary for me at all..) They were talking their lines .. yes an occasional scream in the water was OK, i just thought it coudl of been done so much better.. Their was no character development, and the end was horrible.. There were actually boo's given out in the audience of the theater i was in (and they DIDN'T come from me)..


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Reply #37 posted 08/18/04 1:20pm

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silentflute said:

BabyCakes said:




I thought it was badly acted, it wasnt' scary at all.. (an occasional bump of a shark on someone) dosent' constitute as being scary for me at all..) They were talking their lines .. yes an occasional scream in the water was OK, i just thought it coudl of been done so much better.. Their was no character development, and the end was horrible.. There were actually boo's given out in the audience of the theater i was in (and they DIDN'T come from me)..


boo. cool


I am sorry but that was just too funny!!!!!
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Reply #38 posted 08/18/04 1:28pm

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scififilmnerd said:

JediMaster said:

Still, it was better than Alien 3


Well, I love Alien3. It was an apocalyptic masterpiece. Sigourney Weaver played her ass off in that one and should have received an Oscar for it. biggrin



Apocalyptic master piece of shit! That movie was almost as bad as Batman & Robin
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Reply #39 posted 08/18/04 1:32pm

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BorisFishpaw said:

God I hate the fact that they even made this movie!

Anything with the words "Vs" in the title is gonna be shit (...them's the rules)

I hate it when they mix 2 unrelated movie universes like that
...and no, I don't care how good the comics may have been, it's still a crap idea that totally
negates the far more interesting and mysterious real backstory of the Aliens themselves.
Instead, turning them into 'animals' for Predators to hunt as a right of passage or sport or
whatever. The 'aliens' were cool, strange otherworldly creations with masses of potential and
now they've just descended into yet another b-movie monster.


...but its NOT a crap idea. The original comic series was quite good, and did an excellent job of blending the two different species. They still managed to preserve the mystery of BOTH species. In fact, the first story deepened both, when a few biological commonalities were discovered between the two. The only thing that it established was that the Predators hunt the Aliens as well as the humans.

I do see your point though, even though I often enjoy the "vs" movies myself. This one, I did not.
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Reply #40 posted 08/18/04 1:33pm

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BorisFishpaw said:

I blame "ID4" for starting this ridiculous trend of 'unnaturally' abbreviated film titles.

My heart sank when I first heard they were gonna make an "AVP" movie.
Then with time I resigned myself to the horrible innevitability of it.
Then news filtered out that it may actually be a 'good' movie
(though even if it had been 'fucking brilliant' I'd still rather it hadn't been made)
Then I find out I was right in the first place.

La de da.


Actually, I believe "T2" started that retarded trend!
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Reply #41 posted 08/18/04 1:37pm

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Natsume said:

hey, I can't wait for Open Water! And I try to stay away from those types of movies. Shark movies just scare the poop out of me. Plus I live near the beach.


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Reply #42 posted 08/18/04 2:36pm

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luv4u said:

I loved the Alien and the Predator movies. I want to see this one.



I loved them too, but this was ridiculous.
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Reply #43 posted 08/18/04 2:43pm

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JediMaster said:

4. What the fuck was Bishop doing in this century? He shouldn't have been born for a shit load of years into the future.

That wasn't Bishop (besides, Bishop was an android, so who's to say when he was "born"). The character was Charles Bishop Weyland, ancestor to the creator of the Bishop android. He is also the founder of the company that will eventually evolve into the one Ripley works for. This at least explains why the company knew of the existence of these creatures in Alien. I actually liked this touch



So he looked exactly like his great great great great, etc. grandson?
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Reply #44 posted 08/18/04 2:46pm

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PhilG said:

A couple other things that didn't make sense:

1.The pyramid was 2,000 feet below sea level. Wouldn't the pressure down there have killed them?

2. As the one Predator was busy getting killed by the mother Alien, how come none of the other Predators jumped off the ship which was nearby behind a cloaking device & assisted him??



Good points.

The pressure would have definitely had an effect. And it would have taken them much longer to get down there.
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Reply #45 posted 08/18/04 2:48pm

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PEJ said:

Is there anything in this world that you think doesn't suck? I could care less about AVP but I

would think that a person like yourself that constantly talks negative about Prince on a Prince

fan site can't be taken seriously. In other words if your saying this is such a piece of shit then

it probably rocks! biggrin



If you think it rocks, then your taste in films is warped beyond repair.
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Reply #46 posted 08/18/04 2:49pm

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BorisFishpaw said:

God I hate the fact that they even made this movie!

Anything with the words "Vs" in the title is gonna be shit (...them's the rules)

I hate it when they mix 2 unrelated movie universes like that
...and no, I don't care how good the comics may have been, it's still a crap idea that totally
negates the far more interesting and mysterious real backstory of the Aliens themselves.
Instead, turning them into 'animals' for Predators to hunt as a right of passage or sport or
whatever. The 'aliens' were cool, strange otherworldly creations with masses of potential and
now they've just descended into yet another b-movie monster.



That's cuz the filmmakers care more about money than art.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

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Reply #47 posted 08/18/04 2:52pm

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Marrk said:

oh god. i'm in England, it's not out here yet. i was looking forward to this. i'm not now. sad

just done some reading on www.rottentomatoes.com and it been panned by nearly all the critics. Shit! mad

That Anderson guy is obviously a shite director. Mortal Kombat, Resident Evil and now this. I think he's in the wrong job.



That's the first piece of news that convinced me it would be in trouble. But of course, it must have been hard to get a great director to do a "Vs." film.
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Reply #48 posted 08/18/04 2:54pm

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Marrk said:

How can one of the coolest horror franchises go from a Adult rating to a child rated P-G13? WTF!? disbelief



Cuz that's how they get more money. They get the families in there.
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Reply #49 posted 08/18/04 2:55pm

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scififilmnerd said:

JediMaster said:

Still, it was better than Alien 3


Well, I love Alien3. It was an apocalyptic masterpiece. Sigourney Weaver played her ass off in that one and should have received an Oscar for it. biggrin


Alien 3 was junk.
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Reply #50 posted 08/18/04 2:56pm

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JediMaster said:

BorisFishpaw said:

I blame "ID4" for starting this ridiculous trend of 'unnaturally' abbreviated film titles.

My heart sank when I first heard they were gonna make an "AVP" movie.
Then with time I resigned myself to the horrible innevitability of it.
Then news filtered out that it may actually be a 'good' movie
(though even if it had been 'fucking brilliant' I'd still rather it hadn't been made)
Then I find out I was right in the first place.

La de da.


Actually, I believe "T2" started that retarded trend!



A retarded film that started a retarded trend.
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Reply #51 posted 08/18/04 2:58pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

Marrk said:

How can one of the coolest horror franchises go from a Adult rating to a child rated P-G13? WTF!? disbelief



Cuz that's how they get more money. They get the families in there.


Ridley Scott must be pulling his hair out. neutral
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Reply #52 posted 08/18/04 2:59pm

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BorisFishpaw said:

God I hate the fact that they even made this movie!

Anything with the words "Vs" in the title is gonna be shit (...them's the rules)

I hate it when they mix 2 unrelated movie universes like that
...and no, I don't care how good the comics may have been, it's still a crap idea that totally
negates the far more interesting and mysterious real backstory of the Aliens themselves.
Instead, turning them into 'animals' for Predators to hunt as a right of passage or sport or
whatever. The 'aliens' were cool, strange otherworldly creations with masses of potential and
now they've just descended into yet another b-movie monster.



My thoughts are summed up here, thanks Boris
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Reply #53 posted 08/18/04 3:04pm

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Marrk said:

EvilWhiteMale said:




Cuz that's how they get more money. They get the families in there.


Ridley Scott must be pulling his hair out. neutral


I wonder if he could bring himself to watch it.
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Reply #54 posted 08/18/04 3:23pm

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flipwilson said:

I've heard that this movie is based on a true story.

It is. An artistic study of the current U.S. citizen -- caught between the Democrats and Republicans.
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Reply #55 posted 08/18/04 3:42pm

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JediMaster said:

BorisFishpaw said:

I blame "ID4" for starting this ridiculous trend of 'unnaturally' abbreviated film titles.

My heart sank when I first heard they were gonna make an "AVP" movie.
Then with time I resigned myself to the horrible innevitability of it.
Then news filtered out that it may actually be a 'good' movie
(though even if it had been 'fucking brilliant' I'd still rather it hadn't been made)
Then I find out I was right in the first place.

La de da.


Actually, I believe "T2" started that retarded trend!


Yeah, T2 may have actually started it, but with T2 it felt like a 'natural' abbreviation rather than
a forced one like ID4, LXG or AVP
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Reply #56 posted 08/18/04 3:44pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

scififilmnerd said:



Well, I love Alien3. It was an apocalyptic masterpiece. Sigourney Weaver played her ass off in that one and should have received an Oscar for it. biggrin


Alien 3 was junk.


HATERS! lol - ha, ha!

It must be cuz U Americans. Europeans love it. Me and my scifinerd-friends love it. Even the critics loved it. I still got the clippings, praising it to the sky. And deservedly so. But, sure, I can see how someone who expected a remake of Aliens would hate it. I like it that they are very different flicks. biggrin

Also, Alien3 made Sigourney Weaver/Ripley a gay icon beyond compare over here. For some reason, all the lesbians tripped on that movie. biggrin

Sure, I'd also like to know where the eggs came from, but beyond that, it was an emotional tour-de-force. The plot-holes in Alien Resurrection were much larger and downright stupid. Yet, I also kind of like Alien Resurrection, if for no other reason than that I think the set-design is absolutely amazingly pretty. drool
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Reply #57 posted 08/18/04 3:48pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

JediMaster said:



Actually, I believe "T2" started that retarded trend!



A retarded film that started a retarded trend.


HATER! James Cameron is a friggin' genius! stab

I like T2: Judgment Day. Not as much as the original, no, but T2 certainly entertained me and I watched the Special Edition recently and was still entertained. biggrin
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Reply #58 posted 08/18/04 3:51pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

Marrk said:



Ridley Scott must be pulling his hair out. neutral


I wonder if he could bring himself to watch it.


James Cameron said only about a year and a half ago that he and Ridley Scott were talking about doing a new Alien movie together - without Ripley and with a whole new kind of alien race. I hope their talks become reality any day now. drool
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Reply #59 posted 08/18/04 3:56pm

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JediMaster said:

BorisFishpaw said:

God I hate the fact that they even made this movie!

Anything with the words "Vs" in the title is gonna be shit (...them's the rules)

I hate it when they mix 2 unrelated movie universes like that
...and no, I don't care how good the comics may have been, it's still a crap idea that totally
negates the far more interesting and mysterious real backstory of the Aliens themselves.
Instead, turning them into 'animals' for Predators to hunt as a right of passage or sport or
whatever. The 'aliens' were cool, strange otherworldly creations with masses of potential and
now they've just descended into yet another b-movie monster.


...but its NOT a crap idea. The original comic series was quite good, and did an excellent job of blending the two different species. They still managed to preserve the mystery of BOTH species. In fact, the first story deepened both, when a few biological commonalities were discovered between the two. The only thing that it established was that the Predators hunt the Aliens as well as the humans.

I do see your point though, even though I often enjoy the "vs" movies myself. This one, I did not.


Well, maybe me calling all 'Vs' movies 'shit' was a bit harsh, but you know what I mean.
'Vs' movies are the domain of the b-movie (of course I actually enjoy a lot of b-movies)
but it's so not the direction that I wanted to see Alien go. These monster mashes and
'what if' team ups work well in comic form, but they very rarely work on the big screen.
There's just something about it that annoys me when they mix 2 or more unrelated
imagined universes together in movies. It always seems to 'cheapen' it somehow.

It just annoyed me that the Alien had become part of the Predator's universe, when they
should have remained at the top of the food chain in their own (so to speak).
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