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Thread started 08/06/04 8:00am

ArdeoTheMercil
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Comics To Movies...

...so far, disappointing confused

here's what's in the pipe --->

Man-Thing

Elektra

Iron Man

Luke Cage

The Avengers

X-Men 3

Namor

Ghost Rider

Black Widow

The Punisher 2

The Hulk 2

Deathlok

Spider-Man 3

Dr. Strange

Iron Fist

Silver Surfer

Ant-Man

Black Panther

Captain America

Nick Fury and Thor

...

he better kick ass!



but i hear Tom Cruise or wait for it...Nicolas Cage are up for the part mad
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Reply #1 posted 08/06/04 8:37am

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You forgot the Fantastic Four, which should start filming soon for a 2005 release. Check out www.superherohype.com for all your upcoming comic movies and info.

Marvel is flooding the market with their characters. Wouldn't be so bad if they could make each one as good as X-Men and Spider-Man. The reason these 2 franchises were successful was due to the fact that they stayed true to the character/s.

It showed, when they strayed from the Hulk's origin, how terrible a movie can be if it loses track of the character. What was that whole thing about his dad? I never read that in any comic book. Here I thought Attack Of The Killer Tomoatoes was the worst movie ever made, and now they're going for a Hulk 2? Please God... spare us.

Don't even get me started on DC movies. Their hasn't been a decent movie based on their characters since Superman I and II. All the Batman movies sucked, and I am not looking forward to how stupid they're going to make Batman look in this new movie. Nothing will ever beat the animated series ('92–'97) in portraying Batman as he should be.

Catwoman? I cringe every time I see the trailer for that one. A woman with cat-like powers? Call her something else... the Catwoman I grew up with was a cat-burglar, not part woman/part cat. I can't force myself to see that one even as fine as Halle is.

It can't last forever. Eventually the overload of comic book movies will slow down.
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Reply #2 posted 08/06/04 8:53am

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LovesexyIsThe1 said:

You forgot the Fantastic Four, which should start filming soon for a 2005 release. Check out www.superherohype.com for all your upcoming comic movies and info.

FF is gonna rock!!

Marvel is flooding the market with their characters. Wouldn't be so bad if they could make each one as good as X-Men and Spider-Man. The reason these 2 franchises were successful was due to the fact that they stayed true to the character/s.

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It showed, when they strayed from the Hulk's origin, how terrible a movie can be if it loses track of the character. What was that whole thing about his dad? I never read that in any comic book. Here I thought Attack Of The Killer Tomoatoes was the worst movie ever made, and now they're going for a Hulk 2? Please God... spare us.

I didn't care for the movie either, but all the stuff about his dad was right out of Peter David's run. In fact, it was toned down for the movie. In the comic, it was established that not only did David Banner perform experiments on his son that altered his genetic structure, but he also abused him horribly (thus leading to all the pent up rage). Hopefully, Hulk 2 will get the character back on track

Don't even get me started on DC movies. Their hasn't been a decent movie based on their characters since Superman I and II. All the Batman movies sucked, and I am not looking forward to how stupid they're going to make Batman look in this new movie. Nothing will ever beat the animated series ('92–'97) in portraying Batman as he should be.

I agree about the Batman films, with the exception of the new one. Christopher Nolan is taking great pains to be true to the comic, and David Goyer's script is incredible. If the script is filmed that I read (and from what I hear, it is) then this will be the first time that Batman has been portrayed accurately outside of the animated series.

Catwoman? I cringe every time I see the trailer for that one. A woman with cat-like powers? Call her something else... the Catwoman I grew up with was a cat-burglar, not part woman/part cat. I can't force myself to see that one even as fine as Halle is.

I agree. barf

It can't last forever. Eventually the overload of comic book movies will slow down.

Disagree. I think that, at this point, the comic book movie has become a legitimate sub-genre of film. If anything, I see Hollwood using comics more and more as a sort of development center for films. The lack of creativity in film today means that Hollywood has to go outside the system to get new ideas. Comics are a fertile ground for this.
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Reply #3 posted 08/06/04 9:11am

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ArdeoTheMerciless said:



here's what's in the pipe --->

Man-Thing

Already filmed. Was originally slated as direct to video, but the suits at the movie studio liked it so much that they are planning on a theatrical release. No date is set

Elektra

Filming. Affleck was on-set last week to film a cameo by Daredevil

Iron Man

In development. Its true that Nic Cage was considered at one point, but that was ages ago. He is no longer associated with the project at all. Cruise does have an option to co-produce and star, but I really don't have a problem with this. Tony Stark is suppossed to be a pretty-boy playboy. It fits.

Luke Cage

To be directed by John Singelton. Ving Rhames was in talks to play the lead, last I heard

The Avengers

This is an animated, direct to video venture. It will be based on the version of the team from "The Ultimates". It will not be a feature film.

X-Men 3

Now in limbo, since director Bryan Singer bolted to do "Superman Returns".

Namor

In development

Ghost Rider

Mark Steven Johnson is directing, Nic Cage is playing Johnny Blaze

Black Widow

In Development

The Punisher 2

In development. Jigsaw is rumoured to be the villian (this is who Thomas Jane says he wants as the villian, so its likely)

The Hulk 2

In development. Eric Bana said in a recent interview that he had not been approached to play the Hulk again yet, although he is under a three film contract.

Deathlok

A script is finished. Looking for a director.

Spider-Man 3

Raimi finished his first draft. Won't tell anyone any details.

Dr. Strange

In development. MAN! I wanna Doc Strange film!!!

Iron Fist

In pre-production hell! Ray Park (Darth Maul) is signed, but several directors have come and gone.

Silver Surfer

In development. Personally, I think they should wait and introduce him in "Fantastic Four 2", then spin him off into his own movie. I wanna see the FF take on Galactus on the big screen!!!

Ant-Man

Probably will be an animated DVD.

Black Panther

This one's been in development forever. In fact, the whole reason Wesley Snipes took on the role of Blade was in the hopes that he could land the part of BP. Snipes recently said he still wants the part, and will probably co-produce.

Captain America

Hell yeah!! In development. We NEED a real Cap movie! Not that crappy one from the early 90s, or that awful TV pilot from the 80s.

Nick Fury

Sam Jackson is in talks (so obviously, they are going to base it on the version in "The Ultimates")

Thor


They'd better not @#$^ up the Thunder-god!!!
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Reply #4 posted 08/06/04 11:18am

MrJoker

ArdeoTheMerciless said:


he better kick ass!



but i hear Tom Cruise or wait for it...Nicolas Cage are up for the part mad

Did you hear the original rumor from a year or so back? Leonardo DeCRAPrio playing Tony Stark? Thank God this didn't happen! What are they trying to do? Alienate all the people who buy these characters' comic books in order to sign the big names? Damn "suits". mad
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Reply #5 posted 08/06/04 12:24pm

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JediMaster said:

I agree about the Batman films, with the exception of the new one. Christopher Nolan is taking great pains to be true to the comic, and David Goyer's script is incredible. If the script is filmed that I read (and from what I hear, it is) then this will be the first time that Batman has been portrayed accurately outside of the animated series.


Well the first thing to make Batman how he should be, starts with the costume. The new movie had a chance to do away with the black rubber, but opted not to. That right there is the first red flag for me. This costume looks like a mix of all the past Batman movies. So much for trying to disassociate this film from those previous. As far as I'm concerned, this new costume sucks:



They should've went for the Alex Ross look, like Sandy Collora did for his 2 independent films:



Then the new Batman might've stood a chance. I truly believe, for this fact alone, Batman will do as good as Catwoman did. I would love it, if I can eat those words... who knows, maybe I will be pleasently surprised.
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Reply #6 posted 08/06/04 1:03pm

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LovesexyIsThe1 said:

JediMaster said:

I agree about the Batman films, with the exception of the new one. Christopher Nolan is taking great pains to be true to the comic, and David Goyer's script is incredible. If the script is filmed that I read (and from what I hear, it is) then this will be the first time that Batman has been portrayed accurately outside of the animated series.


Well the first thing to make Batman how he should be, starts with the costume. The new movie had a chance to do away with the black rubber, but opted not to. That right there is the first red flag for me. This costume looks like a mix of all the past Batman movies. So much for trying to disassociate this film from those previous. As far as I'm concerned, this new costume sucks:



They should've went for the Alex Ross look, like Sandy Collora did for his 2 independent films:



Then the new Batman might've stood a chance. I truly believe, for this fact alone, Batman will do as good as Catwoman did. I would love it, if I can eat those words... who knows, maybe I will be pleasently surprised.



Hmm, don't agree at all. The pic of the costume on the net is enhanced to show detail, and is really designed to be seen in shadows. From what I hear, it doesn't look like rubber in the film, other than the cowl.

I just can't see how you could decide that the film will flop like Catwoman just on the basis of the costume. The X-Men had costumes that looked NOTHING like their comic book counterparts, and look how good those flicks were. To me, the important thing is the story. They nail that, and I'm a happy camper. The story I read is incredibly true to the comic, whereas Catwoman only shared the name.
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Reply #7 posted 08/06/04 1:06pm

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Even we Brits had a go at remaking Batman & Robin --->



lol
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Reply #8 posted 08/06/04 1:09pm

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ArdeoTheMerciless said:

Even we Brits had a go at remaking Batman & Robin --->



lol


omfg
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Reply #9 posted 08/06/04 1:32pm

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JediMaster said:

I just can't see how you could decide that the film will flop like Catwoman just on the basis of the costume. The X-Men had costumes that looked NOTHING like their comic book counterparts, and look how good those flicks were. To me, the important thing is the story. They nail that, and I'm a happy camper. The story I read is incredibly true to the comic, whereas Catwoman only shared the name.


It's just a hunch, because the costume is so important. If they could've at least followed the TNBA color scheme I might feel better about it. They should've made the costume grey & black.

I don't know anything about the story, other than tidbits I've heard on the net... like I said, hopefully I will be pleasently surprised and pleased all at once. Just for the mere fact that the movie restores some credibility back to such a great character.

As a sidenote I don't see why they have to re-tell his origin either. I believe the first and third films touched on that.

Thankfully the costume doesn't look lke what the Brits attempted.
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Reply #10 posted 08/06/04 3:29pm

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Of course, Fantastic Four was made a number of years ago but never released due 2 contractual problems - very low budget tho.

If I could see ANY adaptation, I'd have 2 say it'd have 2 be HalO jOnes:



Man, that would be SO damned cool - even if it was an animated version.

I'm quite surprsed AeOn FluX hasn't been resurrected either...


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Reply #11 posted 08/06/04 6:32pm

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there's only ONE comic that i'd LOVE to see make the big screen, and if it happens, they BETTER do it 100% RIGHT:



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Reply #12 posted 08/07/04 4:56am

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According to Stan "The Liar" Lee, the Fantastic Four movie that was made by Roger Corman was only to keep the rights to the movie intact and that it was never meant for release...I dunno...that's what he said in Comic Book: The Movie.
There also is a Dr. Strange movie. It was made in the 70's and apparently was so terrible that Marvel really doesn't want to associate with it at all...in any way, shape, or form. I once got to see the box cover in a video rental store many moons ago and I gotta say that I'll have to agree with Marvel on that.
As far as Catwoman goes...I was right.
The critics are bashing it to pieces and (while it has made some initially good bread) is bombing at the box office too. Perhaps this and that dreadfully, painful looking Constantine will show DC that they just can't go out and make a comic movie just to keep up with Marvel.
As I said in another similar thread...much as I love DC, they really need to smarten up with their movie properties.
And...lastly...
Spider-Man 2 truly and completely sucked lima beans.
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Reply #13 posted 08/10/04 5:57am

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According to Stan "The Liar" Lee, the Fantastic Four movie that was made by Roger Corman was only to keep the rights to the movie intact and that it was never meant for release...I dunno...that's what he said in Comic Book: The Movie.

This is true.

There also is a Dr. Strange movie. It was made in the 70's and apparently was so terrible that Marvel really doesn't want to associate with it at all...in any way, shape, or form. I once got to see the box cover in a video rental store many moons ago and I gotta say that I'll have to agree with Marvel on that.

It was a made for TV movie, intended as a pilot for a series. It actually aired on one of the networks. It is as bad as you've heard.


As far as Catwoman goes...I was right.
The critics are bashing it to pieces and (while it has made some initially good bread) is bombing at the box office too.

Actually, its opening weekend was considered a dissapointment, since it opened behind two other movies that had already been in theaters a week or more. The film is a failure across the board.


Perhaps this and that dreadfully, painful looking Constantine will show DC that they just can't go out and make a comic movie just to keep up with Marvel.
As I said in another similar thread...much as I love DC, they really need to smarten up with their movie properties.

DC has no control over this whatsoever. They are owned by Warner Bros, and WB has carte blanche to use any of those characters in any way they see fit. Blame the suits at WB, not DC. Word has it that the folks at DC were unanimously disgusted by Crapwoman, and that several folks over there are furious at what is being done to Constantine.

And...lastly...
Spider-Man 2 truly and completely sucked lima beans.


No it didn't. It was the most faithful comic book adaptation to date.

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