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Reply #60 posted 07/22/04 8:29am

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Damn glad that didn't happen.When I first heard that i was wondering howin his right mind he would choose Boreanaz over Bale. confused


From what I understand, Bale was always his first choice, but at one point it didn't look like he would be able to do it. When that occurred, Nolan approached Boreanaz, who DID want the role, but couldn't commit due to Angel (and dontcha know he's beating his head against the wall right now??). By the time it was all done with DB, Bale's schedule was freed up, allowing him to take the role.

Personally, I think Bale is going to be the BEST Batman ever. I think he'll be able to pull off the pathos of Batman (like Keaton was able to do), but also capture the billionaire playboy facade that is Bruce Wayne (something Keaton was NEVER able to pull off, even remotely).


Agree with ya 110%.Also,Bale looks like Bruce--which is something all the others didn't have.Just look at Year One and tell me if that doesn't look like Bale--even though Mazzuchelli used a young gregory peck as a model.
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Reply #61 posted 07/22/04 9:12am

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From what I understand, Bale was always his first choice, but at one point it didn't look like he would be able to do it. When that occurred, Nolan approached Boreanaz, who DID want the role, but couldn't commit due to Angel (and dontcha know he's beating his head against the wall right now??). By the time it was all done with DB, Bale's schedule was freed up, allowing him to take the role.

Personally, I think Bale is going to be the BEST Batman ever. I think he'll be able to pull off the pathos of Batman (like Keaton was able to do), but also capture the billionaire playboy facade that is Bruce Wayne (something Keaton was NEVER able to pull off, even remotely).


Agree with ya 110%.Also,Bale looks like Bruce--which is something all the others didn't have.Just look at Year One and tell me if that doesn't look like Bale--even though Mazzuchelli used a young gregory peck as a model.


nod Indeed!!!
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Reply #62 posted 07/22/04 9:14am

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More Supes news :

Ottman to Edit & Score Singer's Superman Source: Vincent from Superherohype.com Tuesday, July 20, 2004

Music From the Movies has learned that X2: X-Men United editor and composer John Ottman will reteam with director Bryan Singer on Superman...

After director McG left the project due to a disagreement with the studio over the film's budget, X-Men director Bryan Singer takes over the project. And this also means that John Ottman gets his most prestigious film scoring assignment so far in his career. At this point, we have very little information about the project, but for the time being we have confirmation from John Ottman himself:

"All I can say is that he [Bryan Singer] is going to do it. And yeah, I'm editing and scoring," Ottman says.

Ottman was expected to edit and score X-Men 3 and "Logan's Run" as well, we're not sure if he'll drop those two projects now
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Reply #63 posted 07/22/04 9:16am

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Looks like Christopher Reeve is also negotiating to produce alongside the Donners!!!
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Reply #64 posted 07/22/04 9:23am

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Here's an article giving a brief history of the Superman project:

Top Stories - Los Angeles Times


Back to the Launch Pad for 'Superman'

Wed Jul 21, 7:55 AM ET


By John Horn Times Staff Writer

The Warner Bros. corporate jet was ready three weeks ago to fly from the Burbank airport to Hawaii, then on to Australia. The passenger list was headed by the director who calls himself McG, tapped to turn a long-delayed "Superman" movie into a multiplex reality.

To save $30 million from the film's already steep budget, the studio wanted "Superman" shot in Australia. A summer 2006 "Superman" premiere seemed possible. But like so many attempts to revive the Man of Steel, the jet never got off the ground.


For reasons that are still in dispute, McG refused to get on the plane, the trip was canceled, and Warner Bros. was soon in search of yet another "Superman" director. After 10 years, four directors and nearly a dozen screenwriters, the studio Sunday said it was going back to square one with yet another director and a pair of new writers.


Hollywood has been cranking out comic-book stories at a staggering clip, and the gigantic profits generated by runaway hits such as the "Spider-Man" and "X-Men" films have motivated nearly every studio to sift through its comic-book collection and jump-start its own superhero stories. Sony Corp.'s Columbia Pictures is fast at work on another "Spider-Man" sequel, News Corp.'s 20th Century Fox is filming "The Fantastic Four," and Warner itself will release "Catwoman" on Friday.


Yet as easy as it might first appear to turn illustrated panels into a movie, adapting a beloved comic book can be a painstaking process, sometimes no less difficult than the most ambitious Academy Award-worthy endeavor. During the decade that Warner, a Time Warner Inc. unit, has spent trying to adapt "Superman," there have been so many storytelling and budgetary dead ends that the studio has sunk at least $20 million (perhaps as much as $40 million) into the project, without a foot of film to show for it.


"When you go down the road with movies that are this expensive, you have to believe in the people, in the process and in the direction you are taking," said Jeff Robinov, president of production for Warner Bros. Pictures. "And honestly, we have not been comfortable."


One reason "Superman" has been hard to get aloft is because the character doesn't have the kind of edgy appeal of a Batman or the "X-Men" crew. He's an old-fashioned do-gooder, sort of a nerdish superhero. Because several movies have already told his story, there's also a lot of cinematic baggage that must be reworked. At one point along the way, one of the producers didn't want Superman to fly or wear his familiar costume.


The studio has yet to settle on an actor to play Clark Kent and his faster-than-a-locomotive alter ego, although those considered include Nicolas Cage, Josh Hartnett, Ashton Kutcher and a raft of unknowns.


Warner's struggles on "Superman" are particularly noteworthy, not only because the studio has excelled at making self-perpetuating franchise films such as "Harry Potter (news - web sites)" and "The Matrix" but also because very few movies go through these kinds of machinations and still get made.


The studio bought the film rights to "Superman" from producer Alexander Salkind in 1993 and a year later hired Jonathan Lemkin ("The Devil's Advocate") to write a script, which he called "Superman Reborn." In Lemkin's imagining, Superman dies on Page 15, while his "life force" is transferred to Lois Lane, who becomes pregnant with a child who must age exponentially to save mankind.


Greg Poirier ("Rosewood") was then brought on to rewrite Lemkin's draft. "I still like my script. I think they should just dust it off and shoot it," Poirier said. "But the thing has been through so many permutations, it's hard to keep up."


By the late 1990s, Poirier's script had been rewritten by Kevin Smith ("Clerks"). "It was such an eye-opener," Smith said. "I learned so much about how studio movies get made or, in this case, how they don't get made." Smith said producer Jon Peters told him not only that Superman couldn't fly or wear his old costume but that he had to battle a giant spider. Peters declined to comment.


Tim Burton was hired to direct, but after the studio's expensive flops "Sphere" and "The Postman," Warner canceled his $140-million version, even though it meant paying the director and his star, Cage, millions to settle their contracts.


For several years, the studio toyed with making a "Batman vs. Superman" movie. But the studio's top executives were divided over that dark film's commercial prospects, and it was eventually shelved.


The studio subsequently hired "Charlie's Angels" director McG (whose real name is Joseph Nichol) to direct a pure "Superman" story, with J.J. Abrams (TV's "Alias") writing the script. But once again the project was thrown into uncertainty when McG left to make the sequel "Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle." Warner ultimately hired Brett Ratner ("Rush Hour") to replace him. Filming was set to commence in spring 2003, but after a budget dispute (one price tag surpassed $200 million) and a casting disagreement, Ratner left the movie.


Then McG came back. The budget and location still proved to be at an impasse. Warner favored Australia, but McG wanted to make the movie in North America, mostly because he thought it would be more authentic and he didn't want to abandon his successful L.A. television production company. There also was the issue of McG's fear of flying, especially over water, which the studio said kept him from traveling to another continent.


The studio said that to find ways to help McG's phobia, it offered to buy out the entire first-class cabin of a Qantas commercial airliner to get the director to Australia, and then provided the corporate jet. McG's representatives said that though the filmmaker did indeed hate to fly, his phobia was not an impediment to making the $170-million film.





"When I flew to New York to scout," McG said in a statement, "I became enamored with our greatest American city. It was clear to me that this was Metropolis. As a filmmaker, I felt it was inappropriate to try to capture the heart of America on another continent."

On Sunday, Warner announced it was hiring "X-Men" director Bryan Singer and writers Dan Harris and Michael Dougherty to begin again.

Warner still believes it might make the summer 2006 release date.

"Let it take as long as it takes," said screenwriter Akiva Goldsman, who worked on the abandoned "Batman vs. Superman" idea. "No one looks back on a great movie and says, 'Boy, that took a long time to make.' "
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Reply #65 posted 07/22/04 10:25pm

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By the late 1990s, Poirier's script had been rewritten by Kevin Smith ("Clerks"). "It was such an eye-opener," Smith said. "I learned so much about how studio movies get made or, in this case, how they don't get made." Smith said producer Jon Peters told him not only that Superman couldn't fly or wear his old costume but that he had to battle a giant spider. Peters declined to comment.

See "An Evening with Kevin Smith" for the full story. biggrin

For several years, the studio toyed with making a "Batman vs. Superman" movie. But the studio's top executives were divided over that dark film's commercial prospects, and it was eventually shelved.

Thank God this was shelved! I hated the idea from day one! mad
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Reply #66 posted 07/23/04 8:21am

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By the late 1990s, Poirier's script had been rewritten by Kevin Smith ("Clerks"). "It was such an eye-opener," Smith said. "I learned so much about how studio movies get made or, in this case, how they don't get made." Smith said producer Jon Peters told him not only that Superman couldn't fly or wear his old costume but that he had to battle a giant spider. Peters declined to comment.

See "An Evening with Kevin Smith" for the full story. biggrin

For several years, the studio toyed with making a "Batman vs. Superman" movie. But the studio's top executives were divided over that dark film's commercial prospects, and it was eventually shelved.

Thank God this was shelved! I hated the idea from day one! mad


The only way I would want to see a Bats/Supes movie, is if they pretty much did a live-action version of the Animated series movie. THAT was fantastic!
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Reply #67 posted 07/23/04 9:05am

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teller, i fear a lightsaber would have the effect of a crowbar on my man Kal-El. It might hurt, but he's not gettin' cut!
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Reply #68 posted 07/23/04 9:09am

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teller, i fear a lightsaber would have the effect of a crowbar on my man Kal-El. It might hurt, but he's not gettin' cut!

Even with my Superman-fetish, Star Wars takes precendence in my universe--and therefore Kal's arm is OFF. lol
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Reply #69 posted 07/23/04 9:17am

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I am really looking forward to Batman Begins. Superman and Batman has always been my super hero characters. I hate what Shumacher did to the the last Batman film.

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Reply #70 posted 07/23/04 12:15pm

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teller said:

namepeace said:

teller, i fear a lightsaber would have the effect of a crowbar on my man Kal-El. It might hurt, but he's not gettin' cut!

Even with my Superman-fetish, Star Wars takes precendence in my universe--and therefore Kal's arm is OFF. lol


Only if under a red sun, or if the focusing crystal of the lightsaber was made out of Green Kryptonite (if that is even possible). I...hey...waitaminnit!! Not again!!
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