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Thread started 07/15/04 5:47pm

missHoneyHotch
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KING FRIGGIN ARTHUR!

Look. All i ask for is an actual storyline!! You know, dat's what i was EXPECTING! But what did i get? Just a bunch of battle scenes! Only one sex scene! ANd what the hell was with that character Lancelot? WTF? Couldnt' they do something to spice the damn story up? And what the hell was with Merlin the Wizard? There was NO MAGIC!! He was Merlin the Dickhead!!!

Anyways, lol. If you liked it, i apologize for my rant. It was okay. But after a while i forgot what the hell these characters were fighting for...was it the round table? confuse

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Reply #1 posted 07/15/04 5:53pm

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Have I told you the story about my last husband Arthur? neutral
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Reply #2 posted 07/15/04 5:54pm

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Have I told you the story about my last husband Arthur? neutral


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Reply #3 posted 07/15/04 5:55pm

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I was interested when I first heard about this, there is no magic because it is supposed to be the "True" story. Figured it would end up sucking though. Thanks for the heads up.

I'm gonna go see what Ebert says, I always agree with that fat fucker. nod
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Reply #4 posted 07/15/04 5:56pm

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2the9s said:

MsSmartypants said:

Have I told you the story about my last husband Arthur? neutral


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Reply #5 posted 07/15/04 5:56pm

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I was interested when I first heard about this, there is no magic because it is supposed to be the "True" story. Figured it would end up sucking though. Thanks for the heads up.


How's Caleb Carr?

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Reply #6 posted 07/15/04 5:57pm

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2the9s said:

Sweeny79 said:

I was interested when I first heard about this, there is no magic because it is supposed to be the "True" story. Figured it would end up sucking though. Thanks for the heads up.


How's Caleb Carr?

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Actually it's REALLY good! giggle thanks for hipping me to it rose
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Reply #7 posted 07/15/04 5:58pm

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MsSmartypants said:

Have I told you the story about my last husband Arthur? neutral


Yes you did nod And it was very amusing!!
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Reply #8 posted 07/15/04 5:59pm

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Ebert says:


KING ARTHUR / *** (PG-13)

July 7, 2004

Arthur: Clive Owen
Guinevere: Keira Knightley
Lancelot: Ioan Gruffudd
Bors: Ray Winstone
Cerdic: Stellan Skarsgard


Touchstone Pictures presents a film directed by Antoine Fuqua. Written by David Franzoni. Running time: 130 minutes. Rated PG-13 (for intense battle sequences, a scene of sensuality and some language).


BY ROGER EBERT


For centuries, countless tales have been told of the legend of King Arthur. But the only story you've never heard ... is the true story that inspired the legend. -- Trailer for "King Arthur"


Uh, huh. And in the true story, Arthur traveled to Rome, became a Christian and a soldier, and was assigned to lead a group of yurt-dwelling warriors from Sarmatia on a 15-year tour of duty in England, where Guinevere is a fierce woman warrior of the Woads. His knights team up with the Woads to battle the Saxons. In this version, Guinevere and Lancelot are not lovers, although they exchange significant glances; Arthur is Guinevere's lover. So much for all those legends we learned from Thomas Malory's immortal Le Morte d'Arthur (1470) and the less immortal "Knights of the Round Table" (1953).




This new "King Arthur" tells a story with uncanny parallels to current events in Iraq. The imperialists from Rome enter England intent on overthrowing the tyrannical Saxons, and find allies in the brave Woads. "You -- all of you -- were free from your first breath!" Arthur informs his charges and future subjects, anticipating by a millennium or so the notion that all men are born free, and overlooking the detail that his knights have been pressed into involuntary servitude. Later he comes across a Roman torture chamber, although with Geneva and its Convention safely in the future, he doesn’t believe that Romans do not do such things.


The movie is darker and the weather chillier than in the usual Arthurian movie. There is a round table, but the knights scarcely find time to sit down at it. Guinevere is not a damsel in potential distress, but seems to have been cloned from Brigitte Nielsen in "Red Sonja." And everybody speaks idiomatic English -- even the knights, who as natives of Sarmatia might be expected to converse in an early version of Uzbek, and the Woads, whose accents get a free pass because not even the Oxford English Dictionary has heard of a Woad. To the line "Last night was a mistake" in "Troy," we can now add, in our anthology of unlikely statements in history, Arthur's line to Guinevere as his seven warriors prepare to do battle on a frozen lake with hundreds if not thousands of Saxons: "There are a lot of lonely men over there."

Despite these objections, "King Arthur" is not a bad movie, although it could have been better. It isn't flat-out silly like "Troy," its actors look at home as their characters, and director Antoine Fuqua curtails the use of computer effects in the battle scenes, which involve mostly real people. There is a sense of place here, and although the costumes bespeak a thriving trade in tailoring somewhere beyond the mead, the film's locations look rough, ready and green (it was filmed in Ireland).

Clive Owen, who has been on the edge of stardom for a decade, makes an Arthur who seems more like a drill instructor, less like a fairy-tale prince, than most of the Arthurs we've seen. Lean, dark and angular, he takes the character to the edge of anti-hero status. Keira Knightley, who was the best friend in "Bend It Like Beckham," here looks simultaneously sexy and muddy, which is a necessity in this movie, and fits right into the current appetite for women action heroes who are essentially honorary men, all except for the squishy parts. The cast is filled with dependable actors with great faces, such as Ray Winstone as a tough-as-nails knight who inexplicably but perhaps appropriately anticipates the Cockney accent, and Stephen Dillane as Merlin, leader of the Woads and more of a psychic and sorcerer than a magician who does David Copperfield material.

The plot involves Rome's desire to defend its English colony against the invading Saxons, and its decision to back the local Woads in their long struggle against the barbarians. But Rome, declining and falling right on schedule, is losing its territorial ambitions and beginning to withdraw from the far corners of its empire. That leaves Arthur risking his neck without much support from the folks at home, and perhaps he will cast his lot with England. In the traditional legends he became king at 15, and went on to conquer Scotland, Ireland, Iceland -- and Orkney, which was flattered to find itself in such company.

The movie ends with a pitched battle that's heavy on swords and maces and stabbings and skewerings, and in which countless enemies fall while nobody that we know ever dies except for those whose deaths are prefigured by prescient dialogue or the requirements of fate. I have at this point seen about enough swashbuckling, I think, although producer Jerry Bruckheimer hasn't, since this project follows right on the heels of his "Pirates of the Caribbean." I would have liked to see deeper characterizations and more complex dialogue, as in movies like "Braveheart" or "Rob Roy," but today's multiplex audience, once it has digested a word like Sarmatia, feels its day's work is done.

That the movie works is because of the considerable production qualities and the charisma of the actors, who bring more interest to the characters than they deserve. There is a kind of direct, unadorned conviction to the acting of Clive Owen and the others; raised on Shakespeare, trained for swordfights, with an idea of Arthurian legend in their heads since childhood, they don't seem out of time and place like the cast of "Troy." They get on with it.

They even keep straight faces in the last shot, as the camera audaciously pulls back to reveal Stonehenge. That gives audience members a choice; they can think (a) "A-ha! So that explains Stonehenge!" or (b) "What a cheap shot to use Stonehenge as a location when it has nothing to do with anything," or (c) "What's that?"







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Reply #9 posted 07/15/04 5:59pm

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missHoneyHotchillie said:

MsSmartypants said:

Have I told you the story about my last husband Arthur? neutral


Yes you did nod And it was very amusing!!


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Reply #10 posted 07/15/04 6:02pm

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Sweeny79 said:

I was interested when I first heard about this, there is no magic because it is supposed to be the "True" story. Figured it would end up sucking though. Thanks for the heads up.

I'm gonna go see what Ebert says, I always agree with that fat fucker. nod


Actually, yeah it did claim to be told in it's "True" form! But the ad on TV made Merlin look like he was gonna do somethin...well..magical lol I kept waiting...waiting..and waitin some more...but nada! lol I was hoping for a richer storyline nod I wonder what the reviewers say!
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MsSmartypants said:

2the9s said:



Manwhore?

How dare you speak of my late husband like that! chair


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Reply #12 posted 07/15/04 6:05pm

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There's only one good movie about King Arthur....
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2the9s said:

missHoneyHotchillie said:



Yes you did nod And it was very amusing!!


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Reply #14 posted 07/15/04 6:08pm

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Sweeny79 said:

Ebert says:


KING ARTHUR / *** (PG-13)

July 7, 2004

Arthur: Clive Owen
Guinevere: Keira Knightley
Lancelot: Ioan Gruffudd
Bors: Ray Winstone
Cerdic: Stellan Skarsgard


Touchstone Pictures presents a film directed by Antoine Fuqua. Written by David Franzoni. Running time: 130 minutes. Rated PG-13 (for intense battle sequences, a scene of sensuality and some language).


BY ROGER EBERT


For centuries, countless tales have been told of the legend of King Arthur. But the only story you've never heard ... is the true story that inspired the legend. -- Trailer for "King Arthur"


Uh, huh. And in the true story, Arthur traveled to Rome, became a Christian and a soldier, and was assigned to lead a group of yurt-dwelling warriors from Sarmatia on a 15-year tour of duty in England, where Guinevere is a fierce woman warrior of the Woads. His knights team up with the Woads to battle the Saxons. In this version, Guinevere and Lancelot are not lovers, although they exchange significant glances; Arthur is Guinevere's lover. So much for all those legends we learned from Thomas Malory's immortal Le Morte d'Arthur (1470) and the less immortal "Knights of the Round Table" (1953).




This new "King Arthur" tells a story with uncanny parallels to current events in Iraq. The imperialists from Rome enter England intent on overthrowing the tyrannical Saxons, and find allies in the brave Woads. "You -- all of you -- were free from your first breath!" Arthur informs his charges and future subjects, anticipating by a millennium or so the notion that all men are born free, and overlooking the detail that his knights have been pressed into involuntary servitude. Later he comes across a Roman torture chamber, although with Geneva and its Convention safely in the future, he doesn’t believe that Romans do not do such things.


The movie is darker and the weather chillier than in the usual Arthurian movie. There is a round table, but the knights scarcely find time to sit down at it. Guinevere is not a damsel in potential distress, but seems to have been cloned from Brigitte Nielsen in "Red Sonja." And everybody speaks idiomatic English -- even the knights, who as natives of Sarmatia might be expected to converse in an early version of Uzbek, and the Woads, whose accents get a free pass because not even the Oxford English Dictionary has heard of a Woad. To the line "Last night was a mistake" in "Troy," we can now add, in our anthology of unlikely statements in history, Arthur's line to Guinevere as his seven warriors prepare to do battle on a frozen lake with hundreds if not thousands of Saxons: "There are a lot of lonely men over there."

Despite these objections, "King Arthur" is not a bad movie, although it could have been better. It isn't flat-out silly like "Troy," its actors look at home as their characters, and director Antoine Fuqua curtails the use of computer effects in the battle scenes, which involve mostly real people. There is a sense of place here, and although the costumes bespeak a thriving trade in tailoring somewhere beyond the mead, the film's locations look rough, ready and green (it was filmed in Ireland).

Clive Owen, who has been on the edge of stardom for a decade, makes an Arthur who seems more like a drill instructor, less like a fairy-tale prince, than most of the Arthurs we've seen. Lean, dark and angular, he takes the character to the edge of anti-hero status. Keira Knightley, who was the best friend in "Bend It Like Beckham," here looks simultaneously sexy and muddy, which is a necessity in this movie, and fits right into the current appetite for women action heroes who are essentially honorary men, all except for the squishy parts. The cast is filled with dependable actors with great faces, such as Ray Winstone as a tough-as-nails knight who inexplicably but perhaps appropriately anticipates the Cockney accent, and Stephen Dillane as Merlin, leader of the Woads and more of a psychic and sorcerer than a magician who does David Copperfield material.

The plot involves Rome's desire to defend its English colony against the invading Saxons, and its decision to back the local Woads in their long struggle against the barbarians. But Rome, declining and falling right on schedule, is losing its territorial ambitions and beginning to withdraw from the far corners of its empire. That leaves Arthur risking his neck without much support from the folks at home, and perhaps he will cast his lot with England. In the traditional legends he became king at 15, and went on to conquer Scotland, Ireland, Iceland -- and Orkney, which was flattered to find itself in such company.

The movie ends with a pitched battle that's heavy on swords and maces and stabbings and skewerings, and in which countless enemies fall while nobody that we know ever dies except for those whose deaths are prefigured by prescient dialogue or the requirements of fate. I have at this point seen about enough swashbuckling, I think, although producer Jerry Bruckheimer hasn't, since this project follows right on the heels of his "Pirates of the Caribbean." I would have liked to see deeper characterizations and more complex dialogue, as in movies like "Braveheart" or "Rob Roy," but today's multiplex audience, once it has digested a word like Sarmatia, feels its day's work is done.

That the movie works is because of the considerable production qualities and the charisma of the actors, who bring more interest to the characters than they deserve. There is a kind of direct, unadorned conviction to the acting of Clive Owen and the others; raised on Shakespeare, trained for swordfights, with an idea of Arthurian legend in their heads since childhood, they don't seem out of time and place like the cast of "Troy." They get on with it.

They even keep straight faces in the last shot, as the camera audaciously pulls back to reveal Stonehenge. That gives audience members a choice; they can think (a) "A-ha! So that explains Stonehenge!" or (b) "What a cheap shot to use Stonehenge as a location when it has nothing to do with anything," or (c) "What's that?"







Copyright © Chicago Sun-Times Inc.


I think i have a clearer picture of what was going on in dat movie through this review than the actual movie itself! lol I wouldn't rule it out..check it out and decide for yourself- i do agree on the characterz bein charasmatic, they were...but how many battle scenes were there!! OMG...i lost interest!! My friend started text messaging not very far into the movie- she gave up before i did giggle
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Reply #15 posted 07/15/04 6:12pm

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MrJoker said:

There's only one good movie about King Arthur....



OH HELL YES!!

Run away run away....

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Reply #16 posted 07/15/04 6:14pm

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There's only one good movie about King Arthur....


right you are!

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Reply #17 posted 07/16/04 4:43am

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The movie was disappointing to say the least. Whoever played Arthur played him like a doofus. Basically the only one I liked was Keira Knightly horny Also I read that the director was pissed that he had to edit the movie down to at least a PG-13 rating. So maybe that had some effect on its' quality.
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