BabyCakes said:

only person I'd ever stick up for is you doll.

silentflute said:

Flattery will get you everywhere...

Nah bro--we're not into the big venues.we'll probably check out one of the aftershows though.U?

Back to topic.Is it me or is Alex Ross highly overrated?I appreciate the "realism " aspect,but his models all look like 50's john wayne type meatheads and there's just no "soul" to the work.

silentflute said:

I don't think he's overrated at all. He's the comic industry's most sought after painter, and cover artist. And he deserves to be. His artwork is very confident, and alwyas see, to be superior in preperation to other artists...espescially of the mid 90's. I love his style....it show great attention to detail, without being really top heavy on technique ( i.e. Boris Vallejo ). His use of contrast, light, and ability to render subjects in a realistic manner, without having a paper-thin barrier between fantasy and reality make him on of my fav's for sure!

A few of my fav's (and that have had a major impact on the industry):

NEAL ADAMS--If I had to choose just one, it'd be Neal.IHis heroes looked like the Gods they were meant to represent.
STEVE DITKO---here's a cat who applied Aristotle's principals to his craft.'nuff said.
BERNI WRIGHTSON--his early stuff fromthe 70's holds an emotional resonance that just stays with you.
FRANK MILLER--early stuff up to DKR.Sin City stuff too.But he lost it with 300 and DKSA
MARSHALL ROGERS--draws the definitive Batman
MIKE ZECK--there's almost a Zen simplicity to his work--very few lines but such range of emotion--- the dude is highly underrated
DAVE GIBBONS--his work on Watchmen is undisputed.
PAUL GULACY--used Bruce Lee pics for reference and made it work.
GIL KANE---every bit as innovative as Kirby and Adams---and was responsible for a major new direction and how the artform was looked upon.Gorgeous, breathtaking stuff.
DAVID MAZZUCHELLI--his work is so cinematic ,that u actually come out feeling you've been watching a movie.Outstanding.

Who are your favs?

I'm not too into anything post 1988.
Hated Mcfarlane and Rob Liefield.I do like some of Jim Lee's stuff though.Also Tim Sale--loved SPIDER-MAN :BLUE.

silentflute said:

Absolutely LOATHE Mcfarlane. He's a complete asshat. Liefeld is the single biggest hack in comics. He has no sense of perspective, all his characters look the same, and he rips off everyone he possibly can. My least favorite artist in comics (yes, I even hate him more than Larsen, and that's saying something, since I think Larsen sucks dead pig cock)

silentflute said:

Absolutely LOATHE Mcfarlane. He's a complete asshat. Liefeld is the single biggest hack in comics. He has no sense of perspective, all his characters look the same, and he rips off everyone he possibly can. My least favorite artist in comics (yes, I even hate him more than Larsen, and that's saying something, since I think Larsen sucks dead pig cock)

JediMaster said:

Ahhhhh sooo refreshing... My 2 geeks...

Wish i liked comic books... I will stick to my magazines.. Cosmo, and Glamour...

BabyCakes said:

Hey Babycakes! Good to see ya and yo man!!

DAVID MAZZUCHELLI did this Rubber Blanket book ater year one that was very cool

does anyone read stray bullets by david latham

its astonishing



also

frank miller shits artisticly

some later sin city stuff was not as tight as the first but

that ok


i love it all

JediMaster said:

Hey sweets!!!!! How are you????

disclaimer:

i love the carmen album and new power soul so . . . .



grain a salt yall

BabyCakes said:

Other than a slight cold and a few annoyances with work...never better!!!

JediMaster said:

EXCELLENT.. always wonderful to hear! Now back to topic before flutie gets on us..

BabyCakes said:

Right!! Well, my girlfriend is much like you, in that comics don't do it for her at all, but she is willing to put up with my obsession. Heck, she actually enjoyed Spider-Man 2!!

JediMaster said:

I did too.. I enjoyed the first one too.. I also enjoyed Daredevil. I am now gearing myself up for Batman... (when will the insanity ever end)!!!

POOK said:

I agree with most of these, except I LOVE Bagley's Spider-Man, and I absolutely DETEST Erik Larsen and Romita JR. All of Larsen's stuff looks like it was drawn by a five year old, and he is an AWFUL writer as well. As for Romita JR, I really think he rides on his dad's name. All his character's look the same to me.

JediMaster said:

POOK LIKE SIMPLE LOOK OF JUNIOR WEBS

BUT MARK BAGLEY PUT WEIRD NOSE THING ON SPIDEY

LOOK AT PROFILE

IT LIKE HE WEARING DUST MASK UNDER OTHER MASK

LARSEN NO GOOD WRITER

BUT HE BETTER VENOM ARTIST THAN BAGLEY!

On a side note,I think John Buscema draws the best CONAN.

silentflute said:

Absolutely LOATHE Mcfarlane. He's a complete asshat. Liefeld is the single biggest hack in comics. He has no sense of perspective, all his characters look the same, and he rips off everyone he possibly can. My least favorite artist in comics (yes, I even hate him more than Larsen, and that's saying something, since I think Larsen sucks dead pig cock)

POOK said:

I always hear that people like JRJ's "simple" look for Spidey, and I guess I can understand the appeal. I do like his layouts, I'll give him that.

I just think that Bagley does a wonderful job at conveying the physicality of Spidey. The movement and flow is almost film like. He also does an incedible job with conveying emotion through facial expression and body language. There are so many panels of Ultimate Spider-Man that don't even need the word balloons, its all there in the character's faces.

As for Larsen, I just don't see the appeal. I've had friends try to convert me, and I've given it several chances. I just think his art is absolute crap. It doesn't come across as cartoonish (which is what I think he's going for) and it doesn't come across as realistic. I really have the feeling that he just farms out his work to some neighbor kid, and pays him with candy bars or something. Only Liefield can draw crappier art, and he's really not that far behind Eric.

JediMaster said:

OOH!

JEDI FLING POO TODAY!

BUT ERIK DRAW RED AND BLACK COSTUME

POOK ONLY MEAN SPIDEY LARSEN NOT SAVAGE DRAGON

JediMaster said:

Daryl Banks (who drew the Green Lantern), was one of my teachers in school. And I once told him my dislike for Liefeld...and he said he thinks he sold his soul to the devil to get into comics! LMAO! Liefeld was by far my least favorite artist...I just didn't like ANY of his stuff.