PeteSilas said:

alphastreet said:

THat was nice of them to educate about prince but they are too hard on Janet

what are the reasons for this. i never thought janet had any musical talent of note, that would be an obvious one. is it something else? fans are funny, fans of no talents like janet and madonna need to see them as goddesses when they really don't deserve it on a basis of actual musical talent. They should be admired for their ability to manipulate situations and package themselves, you could say they are good at selling their bodies, images and sex more than talent. not that I care much, it just kinda amazes me that these people have such a strong hold on so many when they shouldn't have it on actual merit. Streetmusicians have more ability.

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

NOBODY last this long in the industry with no talent. EVERY movie she's done went to number# 1.

Bullshit.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

PeteSilas said:

what are the reasons for this. i never thought janet had any musical talent of note, that would be an obvious one. is it something else? fans are funny, fans of no talents like janet and madonna need to see them as goddesses when they really don't deserve it on a basis of actual musical talent. They should be admired for their ability to manipulate situations and package themselves, you could say they are good at selling their bodies, images and sex more than talent. not that I care much, it just kinda amazes me that these people have such a strong hold on so many when they shouldn't have it on actual merit. Streetmusicians have more ability.

Janet has been performing since she was SEVEN years old! That's over FORTY YEARS. That includes acting,singing & dancing. Plus she's an EXCELLENT mimic of ANYBODY she comes across.

NOBODY last this long in the industry with no talent. EVERY movie she's done went to number# 1. Not to mention the various sitcoms she's been apart of. Not even her brother MJ has accomplished all of that.

madonna has been putting out music for over 35 years and she still has no musical talent, cher doesn't have much either, i'm not talking about selling image, sex and mystique. like i said, a million street musicians have more talent. but.., if people are dumb enough to pay for crap they can have it. like cissy houston said to whitney when whitney was whining about people's complaint's "let the bitch (janet) have it!" and "you don't need all that, you can sing".

happinessinitsuncutform said:

The whole Northam scandal brought up Michael Jackson at work today. Docu release, now 10 years after the guy's death. All profits go to charity for sexually abused victims? No? so this whole thing's just a big ka-ching for the director and the accusers? Ok then.

Has there ever been a pedophile on record who didn't own or has a history of viewing child porn on his computer? Don't think so. So many accusers, no evidence. IF this documentary were to be taken seriously in any way, the guy who said Jackson was innocent should be punished for his perjury. Put this guy in a mental institution for life, for the apparent trauma he's been suffering all this time. For someone who let a 'guilty man' walk twice, that's the only way he should be pardoned from perjury charges.

At this point, no point in going back and forth about Michael Jackson. I think if his kids ever said anything about him I'd believe them. Other kids who took a pic or two with Jackson back in the day...now in an unfortunate situation career/money-wise - hold zero credibility in my book.

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Which is why Wade started a charity for sexually abused victims.

As for Janet, the reason fans don't like her is because she perpetuated the "MJ was a junkie" image and transformed tour interventions into drug interventions.

Just seen that 9 minute-clip of his interogation.

Hollywood missed out on the greatest Joker in film-history. Didn't even need the extra make-up! Scary.

TheFman said:

JorisE73 said:

alphastreet said:

I wonder if he was experiencing dissociation in that clip when he was asked and laughing, because of 93 trauma. It was really awkward watching that now and when it leaked shortly after his death. Maybe he needed medication

Duh. He went to rehab shortly after that deposition.

PatrickS77 said:

alphastreet said:

PatrickS77 said:

Duh. He went to rehab shortly after that deposition.

This tape is from 96, he went to rehab shortly after the Mexico deposition in 93. If the date is correct, it was right after his first marriage and the collapse

I thought you were talking about the Mexico deposition.

PatrickS77 said:

EmmaMcG said:

TheFman said:

Just seen that 9 minute-clip of his interogation.

Hollywood missed out on the greatest Joker in film-history. Didn't even need the extra make-up! Scary.

I have never been 100% convinced one way or another regarding whether or not he was a child molester. But videos like these lead me to believe that he wasn't. He may come across as a little unhinged sometimes and that may be out of shyness or, what I believe to be more likely, he was off his face on God knows how many drugs, but he does not come across as a child molester. He often comes across as a moron who just didn't get what the public perception of him was but that's true of most celebrities.

haha, you called my boy a moron, cute.

alphastreet said:

JorisE73 said:

Bullshit.

3 of the 5 movies she did went to number 1. The others opened at 2 and 3 respectively

what difference does it make, you guys are aware that talent and business have limited relation right? Arnold Swarschenegger made real successful films to and no one calls him a talented actor, people have rumoured that he gave up the bootie a time or two though.

i do love some of "her" music if you can even call it hers, it's some of the best minneapolis funk we'll ever get.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Oprah celebrates her birthday in St Barts aboard David Geffen's $300M megayacht watching Michael Jackson documentary with her best friend Gayle

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Weird flex, but OK.

PeteSilas said:

EmmaMcG said:

PeteSilas said:

haha, you called my boy a moron, cute.

You know what I mean though. He often did and said some very strange and stupid things, especially when you consider how famous he was. He must have known that the press would crucify him for that. But that doesn't mean he was a kiddie fiddler though.

i know, i thought it was funny, just bustin you'r balls a little.

ForgottenPassword said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Oprah celebrates her birthday in St Barts aboard David Geffen's $300M megayacht watching Michael Jackson documentary with her best friend Gayle

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Free2BMe said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

ONLY by Prince's(r.i.p.) beauty. When she first laid eyes on him she was really shocked by how pretty he really was. But Oprah is NOT the starstruck type. She has seen & interviewed EVERYBODY !

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Yes, Oprah was very star struck by Michael during their interview. She acted like a fawning fan. She wanted the interview to go even longer. In fact, the president of ABC said that he would have given her another hour or even more, if that is what Michael would have wanted. This interview was seen by over 90 million people and set a record. [Edited 2/2/19 19:47pm]

Only because the interview was the most sought after interview at the time. Plus it did heighten Oprah's profile, since it was one if not the first interview specials she ever did at the time. But I'm not going to keep arguing over whether she was starstruck over MJ which she WASN'T. She wanted those ratings which she got. U can't go from being starstruck to believing negative things about someone in the same interview. Like when she asked MJ how many surgeries he had? He replied he can count on TWO FINGERS!

Free2BMe said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

ONLY by Prince's(r.i.p.) beauty. When she first laid eyes on him she was really shocked by how pretty he really was. But Oprah is NOT the starstruck type. She has seen & interviewed EVERYBODY !

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Yes, Oprah was very star struck by Michael during their interview. She acted like a fawning fan. She wanted the interview to go even longer. In fact, the president of ABC said that he would have given her another hour or even more, if that is what Michael would have wanted. This interview was seen by over 90 million people and set a record. [Edited 2/2/19 19:47pm]

Only because the interview was the most sought after interview at the time. Plus it did heighten Oprah's profile, since it was one if not the first interview specials she ever did at the time. But I'm not going to keep arguing over whether she was starstruck over MJ which she WASN'T. She wanted those ratings which she got. U can't go from being starstruck to believing negative things about someone in the same interview. Like when she asked MJ how many surgeries he had? He replied he can count on TWO FINGERS!

alphastreet said:

I wonder if he was experiencing dissociation in that clip when he was asked and laughing, because of 93 trauma. It was really awkward watching that now and when it leaked shortly after his death. Maybe he needed medication

ChocolateBox3121 said:

PeteSilas said:

alphastreet said:

JorisE73 said: 3 of the 5 movies she did went to number 1. The others opened at 2 and 3 respectively

what difference does it make, you guys are aware that talent and business have limited relation right? Arnold Swarschenegger made real successful films to and no one calls him a talented actor, people have rumoured that he gave up the bootie a time or two though.

You are aware I was just correcting teh resident Prince.org bullshitter right?

Free2BMe said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Janet has been performing since she was SEVEN years old! That's over FORTY YEARS. That includes acting,singing & dancing. Plus she's an EXCELLENT mimic of ANYBODY she comes across.

NOBODY last this long in the industry with no talent. EVERY movie she's done went to number# 1. Not to mention the various sitcoms she's been apart of. Not even her brother MJ has accomplished all of that.

Why did you have to say”not even her brother Michael has accomplished all of that.” Why is it necessary to tear Michael down , in order to build Janet up?You do NOT hear Michael fans bring up or tear her down in order to lift him up. The same goes with Prince fans, they always have to tear Micheal down to elevate him. Why? Is it insecurity, pettiness, jealousy, vindictiveness, etc. I have always wondered why you people feel the NEED to do that. It is so immature and weak.😏 [Edited 2/5/19 22:42pm]

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

EmmaMcG said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I'm not tearing MJ down. Also MJ fans have said far worse about Janet in his forums & most can't stand her. Plus I learned how to sing listening to MJ's early albums with his brothers on Epic Records. He was a groundbreaking artist. Also LOVED him in his ONLY co-starring lead role movie "The Wiz".

Michael Jackson was also in Men In Black 2.

He SURE was! I should have known that since I also was part of that WILL SMITH motion picture.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Free2BMe said:

alphastreet said:

I wonder if he was experiencing dissociation in that clip when he was asked and laughing, because of 93 trauma. It was really awkward watching that now and when it leaked shortly after his death. Maybe he needed medication

In one of those depositions, Michael had just had several teeth pulled, and was feeling like any other normal human being would feel after having teeth pulled, pretty much out of it.