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Reply #150 posted 01/11/19 9:24am

TrivialPursuit

Genesia said:

SoulAlive said:

exposed as what? hmmm


A pimp? You know...sort of like Mayte's mom?


COMPLICIT is the word you're looking for.

Mayte's mom let her daughter around Prince, which was sort of shocking, but Mayte did say he never tried a thing until she was of age. Prince was horny, but doesn't fit the profile of a pedophile like R. Kelly does. She has no reason to lie about that, esp now that he's dead and she's free to tell the truth. So while it's a bit off that any mother would let a pop star known for singing about sex, etc. to let her daughter be around that star, these two cases certainly ended differently.

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Reply #151 posted 01/11/19 10:19am

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So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #152 posted 01/11/19 10:49am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

People that live in glass houses should never throw the first stone.



Looks like you're defending him. Says a lot about you
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Reply #153 posted 01/11/19 12:21pm

ThatWhiteDude

TrivialPursuit said:

Genesia said:


A pimp? You know...sort of like Mayte's mom?


COMPLICIT is the word you're looking for.

Mayte's mom let her daughter around Prince, which was sort of shocking, but Mayte did say he never tried a thing until she was of age. Prince was horny, but doesn't fit the profile of a pedophile like R. Kelly does. She has no reason to lie about that, esp now that he's dead and she's free to tell the truth. So while it's a bit off that any mother would let a pop star known for singing about sex, etc. to let her daughter be around that star, these two cases certainly ended differently.

exactly.

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Reply #154 posted 01/11/19 12:22pm

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People that live in glass houses should never throw the first stone.

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Reply #155 posted 01/11/19 12:23pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

People that live in glass houses should never throw the first stone.

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Reply #156 posted 01/11/19 12:32pm

luvsexy4all

2045RadicalMattZ said:

luvsexy4all said:

ironic in that sly stallone enjoys crappin on glass see-thru tables with women underneath them

u know... this is the first time I've heard of this... I had no idea this was a rumor. Although from the bits I've read it was the other way around... paid hookers to have sex ABOVE HIM and defecate all over each other while he pulled his Bryan Cranston...

Geez... could the defecation rumors merely be incontinence from years of steroid abuse and struggling bowels?

u might be right..read it in Madame 90210 years ago....might have forgotten the details....also mentions a purple rock star....

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Reply #157 posted 01/11/19 2:41pm

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I hope you all know this: "In 1990, 16-year-old Garcia met Prince backstage in Barcelona after he saw a tape of her dancing. According to Garcia, she soon moved into his Paisley Park home and he became her guardian."




IIRC, Mayte wrote in her book she had her own apartment near PP and was spending the $100,000 she saved belly dancing to cover expenses her paycheck didn't cover.
"The sole purpose of a child's middle name is so he can tell when he's really in trouble.

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Reply #158 posted 01/11/19 2:56pm

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nextedition said:

I hope you all know this: "In 1990, 16-year-old Garcia met Prince backstage in Barcelona after he saw a tape of her dancing. According to Garcia, she soon moved into his Paisley Park home and he became her guardian."

Why? I'll never understand the parents reasoning for doing that.

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Reply #159 posted 01/11/19 3:41pm

ThatWhiteDude

oceanblue said:



nextedition said:


I hope you all know this: "In 1990, 16-year-old Garcia met Prince backstage in Barcelona after he saw a tape of her dancing. According to Garcia, she soon moved into his Paisley Park home and he became her guardian."




Why? I'll never understand the parents reasoning for doing that.


Are you guys seriously trying to compare these situations? Mayte never accused Prince of any of the things R Kelly is being accused of. To be clear, I find the mindset of Mayte's mother just as questionable as everyone else, but Mayte never said a word about questionable situations during her time with Prince is all I'm saying. She could've easily told us in her book when he touched her at 16, but she didn't. She said he waited until she was of age, to compare Prince and R.Kelly is an insult. Also, check the interviews of Prince and Mayte together, she never seemed unhappy (well, except for that Oprah interview). So this makes me believe that Mayte wasn't with him against her will. She could've left him and PP if she wanted to, but she stayed with him. R.Kelly actually had victims, I remember a TV Interview here in germany last year where one of the girls said that Kelly drugged them sometimes and even trapped them in rooms and stuff like that, he did some messed up shit. Mayte talked about a relationship, not a terrordome and to me, that's the difference.....
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Reply #160 posted 01/12/19 9:58am

luvsexy4all

does R Kelly have the same strain of herpes as Usher???

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Reply #161 posted 01/12/19 10:40am

oceanblue

ThatWhiteDude said:

oceanblue said:

Why? I'll never understand the parents reasoning for doing that.

Are you guys seriously trying to compare these situations? Mayte never accused Prince of any of the things R Kelly is being accused of. To be clear, I find the mindset of Mayte's mother just as questionable as everyone else, but Mayte never said a word about questionable situations during her time with Prince is all I'm saying. She could've easily told us in her book when he touched her at 16, but she didn't. She said he waited until she was of age, to compare Prince and R.Kelly is an insult. Also, check the interviews of Prince and Mayte together, she never seemed unhappy (well, except for that Oprah interview). So this makes me believe that Mayte wasn't with him against her will. She could've left him and PP if she wanted to, but she stayed with him. R.Kelly actually had victims, I remember a TV Interview here in germany last year where one of the girls said that Kelly drugged them sometimes and even trapped them in rooms and stuff like that, he did some messed up shit. Mayte talked about a relationship, not a terrordome and to me, that's the difference...... [Edited 1/11/19 15:43pm] [Edited 1/11/19 16:17pm]

The only comparison I see being made, is parents allowing their underaged daughter to go live with older men, and in Mayte's case, her parents even signing over legal guardianship to one, and THAT is what I said I will never understand their reasoning for doing such a thing, because as a parent myself, I would have NEVER done such a thing to any of my children, no matter what the situation, fame or not! Just because Prince waited until Mayte was 18 before he touched her, doesn't make him some kind of noble gentlemen, he was still way older than she was, and we all know the outcome, so apparently he had the same thing on his mind as R Kelly, but the only difference was, he was devious and smart enough to wait until she reached legal age!

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Reply #162 posted 01/12/19 10:42am

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[Edited 1/12/19 15:33pm]

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #163 posted 01/12/19 10:53am

luvsexy4all

ChocolateBox3121 said:

R. Kelly will not be charged for allegedly giving a woman an STD after cops in Dallas closed their investigation ... TMZ has learned.

Law enforcement sources tell us ... Dallas PD looked into allegations the singer gave an anonymous young woman an STD after allegedly holding her captive as a sex slave in 2017. We're told no charges will be brought against Kelly in connection to the case .

It's also NEVER been any medical record proof that Usher has any STD...

..but its a fun question

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Reply #164 posted 01/12/19 10:57am

TrivialPursuit

Now Keyshia Cole's trying to run her mouth.

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Reply #165 posted 01/12/19 11:13am

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luvsexy4all said:

does R Kelly have the same strain of herpes as Usher???

eek disbelief no no no! lol

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Reply #166 posted 01/12/19 11:39am

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details revealed so far + the daughter's Instagram post are so disturbing to say the least.

Should've gone to prison a long time ago when that first tape was made.

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Reply #167 posted 01/12/19 11:47am

SoulAlive

R. Kelly's daughter speaks out on 'monster' father

R. Kelly's daughter speak...ther - CNN

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(CNN)R. Kelly's estranged daughter has broken her silence about the controversy surrounding her father.

Joann Kelly, who goes by the name Buku Abi, posted a lengthy statement on her Instagram stories Thursday which began "Buku here. I just want to say a few things..."
"Before I start I just want it to be known that I am speaking from the heart, nothing I say or do not say is to hurt ANY party reading this or affected by this," the statement read. "To the people that feel I should be speaking up/against everything that is going on right now. I just want you all to understand that devastated is an understatement for all that I feel currently."
R. Kelly has come under fire in the wake of the recent Lifetime docuseries "Surviving R. Kelly" which chronicles allegations of abuse, predatory behavior and pedophilia against the singer.
Kelly has consistently denied the allegations and has never been convicted of any crime tied to them.
Abi apologized "if my silence to all that is happening comes off as careless."
She said she's been struggling to process it all and find the right words to say.
According to Abi, she has been estranged from her father for a while.
"Anyone that knows me personally or has been following me throughout the years knows that I do not have a relationship with my father," Abi said in her statement. "Nor do I speak on him or on his behalf. I also am not fond of dealing with my personal issues or personal life through social media but, I feel things are starting to get out of hand."
She then went on to discuss how "Reminders of how terrible my father is, and how we should be speaking up against him, rude comments about my family, fabricating me, my siblings & our mothers 'part' etc. Does not help my family (Me, my sister, my brother, and my mother) in our healing process."
"The same monster you all confronting me about is my father," Abi wrote. "I am well aware of who and what he is. I grew up in that house."
She ended her statement by thanking her family's supporters for helping them through what she said has been a difficult time.
"Family, friends, followers, fans, etc... I love you guys to pieces," Abi wrote. "Your love is appreciated & always will be."
"That is my last intention," she wrote. "I pray for all the families & women who have been affected by my father's actions. Trust, I have been deeply affected by all of this."
Abi is one of three children born to Kelly and his ex-wife, Andrea Kelly, who also appeared in the docuseries and shared her allegations of having been abused by him.
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Reply #168 posted 01/12/19 11:50am

luvsexy4all

SoulAlive said:

luvsexy4all said:

does R Kelly have the same strain of herpes as Usher???

eek disbelief no no no! lol

there was a Special Victims Unit episode where they tracked AIDS transmissions

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Reply #169 posted 01/12/19 11:52am

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Sad that the kids have to put up with this. They aren't to blame.

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Reply #170 posted 01/12/19 12:16pm

oceanblue

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Sad that the kids have to put up with this. They aren't to blame.

I agree completely. I feel badly for any child of R Kelly that has to deal with the horrible actions of their father, and the blame lies on no one but him. Because of the type of man that R Kelly is, I couldn't have imagined him as a decent, loving, caring father anyhow. I can only imagine what this young woman and the rest of her siblings are going through, because obviously R Kelly is so sick that he sees absolutely nothing wrong with the evil things he's done, and has no remorse at all!

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Reply #171 posted 01/12/19 1:54pm

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Hamad said:

daPrettyman said:

I came back to the org just to see what you guys consensus was.
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I will admit that when R. Kelly first came out, I was a really big fan of his work. The stuff he did on Aaliyah's first album, his first few albums and some of his work with others (Syleena Johnson, Charlie Wilson, Trisha Yearwood, Maxwell, and others) was just pure genius. After seeing this documentary, it just confirmed what I have known since the first trial, is that he is a total nutcase and predator.

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I have thought long and hard about this. Did not ONE of his family members try to stop this? I know the guy has power, but come on, this is sickening. You can't tell me he didn't have a cousin, aunt, uncle, friend, etc. that knew how he was and was sickened by it?!?! I don't buy it.

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Also, why have we not heard of any assination attempts on his life? If that was my daughter, I would rather spend my life in jail forbeating his ass down than to allow my child to live in that crap.

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Is midiscover still on here? That person was such a R. Kelly supporter. Hmmm

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Reply #172 posted 01/12/19 2:09pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

It HAS! But The R. is not making much from it. Since he doesn't own his music publishing.

Good, because Lord knows he doesn't deserve to make another penny, just pay for the evil he did to many women......and by the way, anyone that streams this guys music and still call themselves a fan of this man and tries to defend and support him after knowing what he did, are just in need of serious psychological help, because there's obviously something wrong somewhere.

I totally agree.

You could tell R. didn't own his music when some of the songs were used in the documentary. If he was against the documentary and owned the rights to his music, he would have never cleared the use of his music in the documentary.

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Reply #173 posted 01/12/19 4:50pm

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Meanwhile, there are still women who want to be with him.

"It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
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Reply #174 posted 01/12/19 5:24pm

SoulAlive

PennyPurple said:

Sad that the kids have to put up with this. They aren't to blame.

Yeah,he has three children.I can only imagine the pain and embarrassment that they have to deal with on a daily basis confused They hear the same shocking stories that we hear.

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Reply #175 posted 01/12/19 5:36pm

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So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #176 posted 01/12/19 5:39pm

ThatWhiteDude

Okay, I'm gonna say it, if you really have the nerve to defend the Dude, then you're just as disgusting as Robert Kelly himself.

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Reply #177 posted 01/12/19 5:40pm

SoulAlive

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so I guess that infamous sex videotape didn't really happen,huh?

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Reply #178 posted 01/12/19 5:43pm

ThatWhiteDude

oceanblue said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

oceanblue said: Are you guys seriously trying to compare these situations? Mayte never accused Prince of any of the things R Kelly is being accused of. To be clear, I find the mindset of Mayte's mother just as questionable as everyone else, but Mayte never said a word about questionable situations during her time with Prince is all I'm saying. She could've easily told us in her book when he touched her at 16, but she didn't. She said he waited until she was of age, to compare Prince and R.Kelly is an insult. Also, check the interviews of Prince and Mayte together, she never seemed unhappy (well, except for that Oprah interview). So this makes me believe that Mayte wasn't with him against her will. She could've left him and PP if she wanted to, but she stayed with him. R.Kelly actually had victims, I remember a TV Interview here in germany last year where one of the girls said that Kelly drugged them sometimes and even trapped them in rooms and stuff like that, he did some messed up shit. Mayte talked about a relationship, not a terrordome and to me, that's the difference...... [Edited 1/11/19 15:43pm] [Edited 1/11/19 16:17pm]

The only comparison I see being made, is parents allowing their underaged daughter to go live with older men, and in Mayte's case, her parents even signing over legal guardianship to one, and THAT is what I said I will never understand their reasoning for doing such a thing, because as a parent myself, I would have NEVER done such a thing to any of my children, no matter what the situation, fame or not! Just because Prince waited until Mayte was 18 before he touched her, doesn't make him some kind of noble gentlemen, he was still way older than she was, and we all know the outcome, so apparently he had the same thing on his mind as R Kelly, but the only difference was, he was devious and smart enough to wait until she reached legal age!

I agree with you, her mother set her up and I was shocked when I read in Mayte's book that her mother trusted that her daughter could handle herself. But let's be real, Prince was a small Dude yes, but that doesn't mean that he couldn't be stronger than another person and do shit to them like rape, beating them up etc. And I never said that he was a noble gentleman.....the Dude didn't really treat his women right, no matter their age.

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Reply #179 posted 01/12/19 5:49pm

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TD3 said:

Hamad said:

How is this man not in jail?! The new information about Aayliah made my stomach churn. It’s 6-episode and the first one was already disturbing as hell.

In the United States we have different rules on and who get punished. As long people (men) stay in their lane based on class and race....who's the killed, harmed or raped the public at large is indifferent.

Kelly's having sex with little girls has been know in Chicago for over 20 years, two Chicago journalist reported about Kelly's cruising JR. high-schools in Chicago.

Be careful what you say about Kelly cuz, you'll accused of bring down a black male. neutral

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I came across a good article on this precise point.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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