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Thread started 08/23/18 6:49pm

ForgottenPassw
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SONY ADMITS TO FAKE MJ SONGS

Surprised this story hasn't garnered more traction. It's a pretty big scandal and admission.

https://www.vibe.com/2018/08/sony-music-admits-to-releasing-fake-michael-jackson-songs/

Jessica McKinney | August 23, 2018 - 8:32 pm

Sony Confesses To Releasing Fake Michael Jackson Music

In 2010, several songs were released that were said to be recorded by the late Michael Jackson. Four years later, one fan questioned the music’s validity, leading many to believe the music was fraudulent. Now, nearly three years after the scandal, Sony Music Entertainment has admitted to releasing and selling fake tunes by the late legend.

The fake songs reportedly appeared on the 2010 posthumous album Michael. The songs in question include: “Monster,” “Keep Your Head Up,” and “Breaking News.” In court documents obtained by Karen Civil, Vera Servoa – the fan who kickstarted the investigation into the fake MJ songs – filed a civil suit, accusing Jackson’s longtime friends Eddie Cascio, James Victor Porte, and his production company, Angelikson Productions LLC of creating and selling music through Sony and the Jackson estate.

Cascio and Porte initially claimed that the songs were recorded in Cascio’s basement in 2007. Serova and the Jackson family, contested those claims however. While the singles sounded similar to MJ’s sound, they said Michael never recorded them. Serova testified in the Los Angeles Superior Court that they were recorded by an impersonator named Jason Malachi.

Consequently, Sony Music Entertainment conceded in court, that it had released fake singles. It’s unclear if fans or Jackson’s estate will be awarded for the criminal behavior or whether there will be an monetary punishment for Sony.

Also, more here:

http://hiphop-n-more.com/...ous-album/

Tbh, those songs sounded fake from the get-go. Surely there'll be repercussions for Sony and the goons who tried to piss on MJ's legacy.

[Edited 8/23/18 18:49pm]

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Reply #1 posted 08/23/18 7:03pm

heymistermusic

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Reply #2 posted 08/23/18 7:19pm

anc282

If his last name is Malarkey, then what do you expect?

It was quite obvious that it wasn't really Michael, which is why I STILL refuse to even buy that CD now.

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Reply #3 posted 08/23/18 7:29pm

Scorp

Been sayin it for 8 years before they dropped the release

Right out the gate
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Reply #4 posted 08/23/18 8:07pm

SoulAlive

This is unforgivable disbelief
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Reply #5 posted 08/23/18 8:28pm

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Damn. I remember an orger posting Jason Malachi music a few years back.

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Reply #6 posted 08/23/18 8:28pm

SoulAlive

Who was in charge of that project? Sony?? The estate? They should have never approved/accepted those fake songs to be on the album!! Some heads need to roll.
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Reply #7 posted 08/23/18 9:26pm

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Like the fans didn't know... They sure raised a big STINK over the fake songs when MJ passed on... Don't try to fool hardcore knowledgeable music fans... My worst nightmare is that this will be tried with Prince... confused

"If you're living, you've got nothing left to prove..."
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Reply #8 posted 08/23/18 10:02pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

Like the fans didn't know... They sure raised a big STINK over the fake songs when MJ passed on... Don't try to fool hardcore knowledgeable music fans... My worst nightmare is that this will be tried with Prince... confused

Yuuuuup sad

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Reply #9 posted 08/23/18 10:16pm

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Goddess4Real said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Like the fans didn't know... They sure raised a big STINK over the fake songs when MJ passed on... Don't try to fool hardcore knowledgeable music fans... My worst nightmare is that this will be tried with Prince... confused

Yuuuuup sad

Although, that would be nuts considering how many unreleased songs P has...that a lot of us already have.

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Reply #10 posted 08/24/18 1:28am

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Scorp said:

Been sayin it for 8 years before they dropped the release Right out the gate

As has pretty much every fan.

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Reply #11 posted 08/24/18 1:29am

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anc282 said:

If his last name is Malarkey, then what do you expect?

It was quite obvious that it wasn't really Michael, which is why I STILL refuse to even buy that CD now.

Yeah. Me neither. Not even when I saw it in the second hand bin for 5 €. Couldn't bring myself to it.

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Reply #12 posted 08/24/18 2:16am

scorp84

Forensic analysis wasn’t even necessary to dismiss those tracks. All the fans smelled something foul with the execution of that entire project. It was a quick cash-grab unlike any Michael Jackson album ever created. It took almost a decade for Sony to grow some balls. The family and the fan community will keep waiting for the many other false claims to be confessed to in the years to come.
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Reply #13 posted 08/24/18 2:58am

LouieLestate

They reviewed a song on our national celebrity news program when the album first came out and they immediately knew it wasn't MJ.

By the way, MJ would never sing "I'm Michael Jackson" or his own name in any bragging context for that matter. He wasn't about that. confused

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Reply #14 posted 08/24/18 3:13am

Purplegarden

A lot of anger, but at least they have fallen on their sword and admitted it, plus there are 7 genuine songs on that CD. I have 2 copies for some reason, bought 1 in 2011 out of a bargain bin and got another when I bought Adrian Grant's book, Invincible and a Poster book together, the 2nd copy of Michael was like an extra.

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I can't imagine fake Prince songs as numerous threads here have proven no one could imitate him very well and laughable rip offs like Exotic Storm (Who gave us the line "Bombs be dropping everywhere, they better not harm yo silky hair"), Georgio (Sex Appeal), Jak, Sexual Harassment (We want Prince), Yasuyuki Okamura and Carlton (Not Banks, but had an album called Savage), fans would spot the fakes in a heartbeat, plus the vault keeps on giving.

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The Michael Jackson vault has less and being the more popular artist, fakes are more likely to come out of the woodwork.

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Reply #15 posted 08/24/18 3:14am

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This is the bit that makes me go WTFFFF

https://edm.com/news/sony...kson-songs


"They argued they had the right to sell the songs as Michael Jackson’s even if the iconic artist wasn’t the singer"

Insane

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Reply #16 posted 08/24/18 4:37am

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Scorp said:

Been sayin it for 8 years before they dropped the release

Right out the gate


I was never fooled by this but I know people who were. My poor bartender at this Pub I use to hit swore up and down that it was Mike. I didn't try to argue her into submission. She really believed it was legit. No need to spoil it for her but I've been listening to MJ longer than she's been alive. I know Mike when I hear Mike.
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Reply #17 posted 08/24/18 6:10am

EmmaMcG

I, and I'm obviously not alone in this, always just assumed that it wasn't Michael Jackson on those songs. That's not the part that annoyed me about that release though. What annoyed me most was that the songs were crap, regardless of who it was who actually sang them. Had they been good, I'd still have considered it a worthwhile purchase even though it clearly wasn't Michael Jackson. Good music is good music, regardless of the artist. Unfortunately, this was not good music.
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Reply #18 posted 08/24/18 7:32am

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Those producers are full of shit.

When Jackson's family and collaborators initially raised concerns about the vocals in 2010, the two producers were asked to bring forward any evidence that Jackson was the true vocalist, such as handwritten lyrics, outtake vocals and photos or videos of him recording the songs.

But the producers claimed they had no evidence because Jackson valued his privacy too much to be photographed in the studio, and because they had deleted all the King of Pop’s outtake vocals to make space on a computer hard drive.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/...y-13131713

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Reply #19 posted 08/24/18 8:33am

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HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAH

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHHAAHAHAHA!!

THose ASSHOLES!

I'm glad someone had the funds and time to devote to put them in their place (eventually, with this flawed legal system that prevents a lot of musicians and artists from contesting these sorts of things)

I knew it was all wrong at the start as well.. I DID pay to PLAY them a few times on a jukebox to illustrate the fakeness of it all to others who simply had no clue.

I want my 8 dollars back!

(I know that's not as catchy as posting a GIF of that TWO DOLLARS!! kid from BETTER OFF DEAD, but it'll have to do)


HAHAHA

precisely what was said before.. aside from the fact that it DIDN'T SOUND LIKE MICHAEL... the rhythm was so lame, and plastic, and self referential, also... KEEP YOUR HEAD UP was a weak vocal. Weak fragile vocal spiced up with cut and pasted scowls and yelps from the real MJ, further degraded generationally to sound like they were from the same set.

Shit... if they hired ME to do it, I'd have at least gotten close wink

...but the truth of the matter was it was obvious. The songs were weak as well, and had no evidence of any of Michael's styling. Nor his breathing

I hope they have to pay a ton of $$$ and lose more "prestige" again. hopefully this will negate some of their transactions....and well.... that ATV catalogue is still SOLD so.... I dunno..



I'd like to see the expression on someone who thought it was always legit, and even sung these songs. That would be priceless..

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Reply #20 posted 08/24/18 10:31am

SoulAlive

Fans who purchaed this CD should be allowed to get a partial refund from Sony.This is false advertising.

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Reply #21 posted 08/24/18 10:50am

EmmaMcG

SoulAlive said:

Fans who purchaed this CD should be allowed to get a partial refund from Sony.This is false advertising.



I'd go along with that. Mind you, the album was only €9.99 so I don't think I'll bother chasing them up over it.
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Reply #22 posted 08/24/18 10:50am

JoeBala

Just by the cover it looked fake. I'm sure alot of his fans didn't buy it anyway, just the casual fan. Still I'd be pissed to get fake music from my fav. dead singers. sad

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Reply #23 posted 08/24/18 10:50am

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SoulAlive said:

Fans who purchaed this CD should be allowed to get a partial refund from Sony.This is false advertising.

that ..and punitive damage

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Reply #24 posted 08/24/18 10:52am

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EmmaMcG said:

SoulAlive said:

Fans who purchaed this CD should be allowed to get a partial refund from Sony.This is false advertising.

I'd go along with that. Mind you, the album was only €9.99 so I don't think I'll bother chasing them up over it.

You really ought to... Wouldn't know how to verify it though. I'm almost certain most people lost those receipts from 2010. A bar code SKU would be general and unverifiable... But they need to pay for that shit. Its the only way they'll hurt.

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Reply #25 posted 08/24/18 11:06am

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https://variety.com/2018/...202916324/


Their retort has come back quickly. They balk that SONY has "admitted" anything; rather that it was the phrasing of an argument necessary to address the appeal.

(YES, lawyer talk gets verbose and convoluted. )

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Reply #26 posted 08/24/18 11:46am

EmmaMcG

2045RadicalMattZ said:



EmmaMcG said:


SoulAlive said:

Fans who purchaed this CD should be allowed to get a partial refund from Sony.This is false advertising.



I'd go along with that. Mind you, the album was only €9.99 so I don't think I'll bother chasing them up over it.

You really ought to... Wouldn't know how to verify it though. I'm almost certain most people lost those receipts from 2010. A bar code SKU would be general and unverifiable... But they need to pay for that shit. Its the only way they'll hurt.



I still have the receipt. I always keep the receipts for every CD and DVD I buy inside the box so I can keep track of when I bought them. I'm often surprised by how long I have things. Like, just a few days ago I noticed that I had the Reservoir Dogs DVD since 2002. But it doesn't seem that long.

But anyway, like I said, I paid less than a tenner on the Michael CD. It's not worth chasing them up over it.
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Reply #27 posted 08/24/18 12:16pm

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2045RadicalMattZ said:



EmmaMcG said:


SoulAlive said:

Fans who purchaed this CD should be allowed to get a partial refund from Sony.This is false advertising.



I'd go along with that. Mind you, the album was only €9.99 so I don't think I'll bother chasing them up over it.

You really ought to... Wouldn't know how to verify it though. I'm almost certain most people lost those receipts from 2010. A bar code SKU would be general and unverifiable... But they need to pay for that shit. Its the only way they'll hurt.


You wouldnt need a receipt just the physical CD should be good enough.
PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Reply #28 posted 08/25/18 6:48am

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My sis in law gave me that CD as a Xmas gift a while back. I don't know if I should keep it or trash it.. biggrin

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Reply #29 posted 08/25/18 8:08am

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MOST of the songs at least were actual Mike songs but us real fans knew better that ALL of the Cascio tracks were dupes. They really tried and argued up and down about it being real SMFH!!! Got their asses.

Download all the shit hop that you can for your kids, neices, nephews, and their friends also. That will prevent them from going out and buying it and will prevent some shit hop sales. Every little bit helps - Andy
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