SEANMAN said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

CBS chief executive was reportedly fixated on “ruining” Janet Jackson’s career after Super Bowl

It's no big secret that Janet Jackson's career suffered tremendously after Justin Timberlake tore off her bustier at the Super Bowl in 2004. But a new report describes Les Moonves, the chief executive of CBS, as playing a particularly vengeful role in the fallout. The Huffington Post's Yashar Ali describes Moonves as "obsessed" with damaging Jackson's career after interpreting the wardrobe malfunction to be a publicity stunt.

Moonves banned both Jackson and Timberlake from the 2004 Grammys, which aired on CBS that year, but eventually allowed Timberlake to perform after an emotional apology. Jackson, he perceived, was not "sufficiently repentant," and he insisted that all Viacom properties (including MTV, VH1 and countless radio stations) stop playing her music.

The report goes on to describe Moonves's reaction upon learning Jackson signed a book deal with Viacom-owned Simon & Schuster in 2011: "how the fuck did she slip through?” Moonves is currently on the outs at CBS following an extensive report by the New Yorker exposing multiple allegations of sexual harrassment against the executive. Jackson recently dropped her first single in years, "Made For Now."

I guess karma reared its ugly head. He is getting what he deserves. Smh

https://www.thefader.com/2018/09/07/janet-jackson-les-moonves-cbs-super-bowl-wardrobe-malfunction/amp?utm_source=f&utm_medium=tw&utm_campaign=share

And now he's OUT (reportedly without his golden parachute)

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Yup. Do you think Janet should sue him for sabotaging her career since more evidence has come out or should she leave it alone and allow him reap what he's sown for himself without getting involved?

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I'm sure she doesn't want to revisit the worst moments of her career and probably doesn't want to remind the public of it either. But there could also be recompense for purposely sabotaging someone's career for failure too.

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Thoughts?

Musicslave said:

SEANMAN said:

And now he's OUT (reportedly without his golden parachute)

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Yup. Do you think Janet should sue him for sabotaging her career since more evidence has come out or should she leave it alone and allow him reap what he's sown for himself without getting involved?

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I'm sure she doesn't want to revisit the worst moments of her career and probably doesn't want to remind the public of it either. But there could also be recompense for purposely sabotaging someone's career for failure too.

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Thoughts?

I absolutely think she should. In this era of #MeToo, it would send a direct message and show that she's taking a stand not only for herself but for the women he's asserted his power over for all these years.

Goddess4Real said:

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Raise your hand if you want to dance it out this weekend. #shondaland

10 Songs You Need to Add to Your Weekend Playlist https://www.shondaland.co...-playlist/

Ms. Jackson if you’re nasty. Janet Jackson is having a second coming and we’re not mad at it. With her releasing new music, being honored left and right, and blowing up on Twitter with that BET biopic, Janet has been on repeat all week. She’ll also be on repeat all weekend long. Scroll down for a playlist featuring our Janet faves.

1. Control

2. Funny How Time Flies (When You’re Having Fun)

3. Anything

4. Got ‘Til It’s Gone

5. Rock With U

6. The Pleasure Principle

7. Made For Now

8. No Sleeep (feat. J. Cole)

9. All Nite (Don’t Stop)

10. Would You Mind

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Julie Chen Leaving ‘The Talk’ After Les Moonves’ CBS Exit Chen was expected to announce her exit Tuesday. “She has decided that her main focus needs to be clearing her husband’s name from accusations made 25 to 30 years ago and tending to her son,” a source told CNN of Moonves’ wife’s decision to step down from her role as co-host on the CBS daytime talk show

What about the shit he did to Janet?????? Julie is a salty

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Goddess4Real said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Julie Chen Leaving ‘The Talk’ After Les Moonves’ CBS Exit Chen was expected to announce her exit Tuesday. “She has decided that her main focus needs to be clearing her husband’s name from accusations made 25 to 30 years ago and tending to her son,” a source told CNN of Moonves’ wife’s decision to step down from her role as co-host on the CBS daytime talk show

What about the shit he did to Janet?????? Julie is a salty

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To be fair, it's not about her. She has a family. Her husband was the one who did wrong, she didn't. This is the problem with the media. People expect someone to do something, when they don't have to do anything. It's her right to act the way she does, she didnt do anything.

nextedition said:

Goddess4Real said:

What about the shit he did to Janet?????? Julie is a salty

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To be fair, it's not about her. She has a family. Her husband was the one who did wrong, she didn't. This is the problem with the media. People expect someone to do something, when they don't have to do anything. It's her right to act the way she does, she didnt do anything.

Right, but for her to say with a straight face on The Talk that Janet never offered an apology (she did) and that Justin did offer one, which resulted in Justin being able to attend the Grammys that year, is a lie. What happened was Janet didn't call her husband crying, sniveling and contrite, and thus she was dis-invited and blacklisted. Add to it that Julie now looks like a hypocrite after pretty much saying that Weinstein's wife and Camille Cosby should leave their husbands, all the while adding the "Moonves" professionally to her name when she has never done such in all the years she's been married to CREEPves. To me, that "Chen-Moonves" announcement was a dig and a big FU to the women coming forward against her husband.

nextedition said:

Opinion: Janet Jackson returning to the spotlight while Les Moonves gets exposed is poetic justice https://hellogiggles.com/...s-justice/

Author Michael Arceneaux discusses the fall of Les Moonves who, in addition to being an alleged sexual assaulter and harasser, was revealed to have engineered Janet Jackson’s blacklisting after the 2004 Super Bowl.

For the first time in nearly a decade, Janet Jackson is engaged in a traditional promotional rollout for a new project.

It’s only for a single, “Made For Now” featuring Daddy Yankee, rather than for a full-length album, but the heightened visibility of the legendary pop star cannot be understated. She has returned to late-night television in order to perform the new track on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon. She is gracing the covers of mainstream magazines like InStyle and Billboard. She is doing numerous radio interviews for stations across the country—a practice that many artists could stand to return to. But considering Jackson’s stature, it’s somewhat surprising that she would.

There is also an increasing amount of homages being paid to precious Janet, including at events like BET’s Black Girls Rock. She has been noticeably more active across social media—amassing a team that realizes Jackson needs to meet her sizable fan base where they are, and engage them. The same can be said for her performances at festivals throughout this recent summer.

The success of Jackson’s “Made For Now” has already been questioned by some, but as far as Janet Jackson’s legend and legacy are concerned, it hasn’t been this good for her since February 1st, 2004—the date of the infamous Super Bowl halftime show ...��s nipple was exposed, resulting in Jackson’s effective blacklisting.

For those of us who love Janet Jackson and respect her contributions to music throughout her storied career, it is rewarding to see her once again dominate the platforms and garner the praise she deserves. It has always been unsettling to watch a nipple negate the status of an artist who twice in her career commanded the biggest recording con...f all time.

And while many long suspected that there was an intentional effort by powerful people to silence Jackson, the world has only recently been provided with a clearer picture of just how intentional those efforts were.

With respect to the “wardrobe malfunction,” Ali says that “Moonves has been open about the fact that the incident caused him embarrassment, and he told sources who spoke to me that Jackson, in his mind, was not sufficiently repentant.”

And because Jackson did not offer the sort of tearful apology that Justin Timberlake did, he retaliated. This included Moonves ordering “Viacom properties VH1 and MTV, and all Viacom-owned radio stations, to stop playing Jackson’s ...sic videos.”

This all but doomed the release of her 2004 album, Damita Jo. But as we’ve come to learn, the damage to Jackson’s career lasted for several years.

As fate would have it, Moonves’ own career is all but over in light of Ronan Farrow’s report for the New Yorker, which described the multiple allegations leveled at Moonves for sexual assaul...misconduct.

Farrow’s follow up story, published on September 9th, included six more accusers and led to Moonves’ ousting from CBS. Presently, Time’s Up is calling on CBS to donate Moonves’ $120 million severance package to groups that combat sexual harassment.

The fact that he is even in the running to receive such a payoff should make people of decency alarmed.

To wit, in the New York Times piece, “Threats and Deception: Why CBS’s Board Turned Against Leslie Moonves,” you learn that, frankly, many of the CBS board members knew what kind of man Les Moonves is—and they wanted him to remain in power all the same. He is only gone now because, in light of Farrow’s reporting and the number of women stepping forward to talk, there’s no way for him to remain CEO without the network facing substantial backlash.

Before I could even wonder who else had their success disrupted by this man, Linda Bloodworth Thomason—one of CBS’s biggest hitmakers—revealed in a piece for The Hollywood Reporter that Moonves ruined her career. Thomason, who created Designing Women, once had the largest producing and writing contract in the history of CBS. But for seven years, as she notes in the op-ed, he kept all of her shows off the air. Thomason wrote: “People asked me for years, ‘What happened to you?’ Les Moonves happened to me.”

She then paints a grim albeit realistic picture: “The truth is, Les Moonves may never be punished in the way that he deserves. He will almost certainly never go to jail. And he has already made hundreds of millions of dollars during his highly successful and truly immoral, bullying, misogynist reign.”

If it were up to me, Les Moonves would spend the rest of his life in a lonely prison cell gargling his own spit for amusement as he contemplates the fact that he wasted the precious gift of life on Earth by being an alleged abusive, mean, vile, disgusting predator. But as Thomason writes, it is far more plausible that he will spend the rest of his life in leisure.

That’s why, as elated as I am to see Janet Jackson’s success resurface despite efforts from Moonves—and as powerful as it is to see creatives like Linda Bloodworth Thomason speak out—I’m haunted by how many more women are surely waiting to tell their stories. And how many more men have pushed those women into silence.

That said, Thomason did end with a promise to the latter: “We are not going to stop until every last one of you is gone. We don’t care anymore if you go to jail or go to hell. Just know at some point that you are leaving.”

The sooner, the better.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

nextedition said:

To be fair, it's not about her. She has a family. Her husband was the one who did wrong, she didn't. This is the problem with the media. People expect someone to do something, when they don't have to do anything. It's her right to act the way she does, she didnt do anything.

She DID do something! She threw the woman this thread is about under the bus.[i][b]

Ok, sorry, didn't know she did that to Janet

aimeetoons‏ @aimeetoons 6h6 hours ago

Janet Jackson - Rhythm Nation (HBO Special: The Velvet Rope - Live in Madison Square Garden (1998)

Goddess4Real said:

aimeetoons‏ @aimeetoons 6h6 hours ago

29 years ago today @JanetJackson gave us the gift of one of the biggest, most relevant, most influential and meaningful albums of all time #RhythmNation1814 #janetslegacymatters #inductjanet

Nice!

SEANMAN said:

Musicslave said:

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Yup. Do you think Janet should sue him for sabotaging her career since more evidence has come out or should she leave it alone and allow him reap what he's sown for himself without getting involved?

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I'm sure she doesn't want to revisit the worst moments of her career and probably doesn't want to remind the public of it either. But there could also be recompense for purposely sabotaging someone's career for failure too.

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Thoughts?

I absolutely think she should. In this era of #MeToo, it would send a direct message and show that she's taking a stand not only for herself but for the women he's asserted his power over for all these years.

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It would be great if some former or current staffer @ CBS, Viacom or Clear Channel/iHeart Radio could make public emails, texts or phone calls that captures his vendetta against her. I read somewhere just yesterday that Ashley Judd is now suing Harvey Weinstein for defamation.

I wish there was more footage of the RN Listening Party VH1 Vintage: Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814 Press Conference September 1989

Janet Jackson Rhythm Nation Era Clip

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Herb Alpert feat Janet Jackson - Diamonds (1987)

Goddess4Real said:

Herb Alpert feat Janet Jackson - Diamonds (1987)

Hey, Dont forget to tune into the Global Citizen Festival tomorrow.....

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https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/festival/newyork/2018/

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I think MSNBC is going to carry it live. iHeart Radio is one of the many co-sponsors.

Musicslave said:

Hey, Dont forget to tune into the Global Citizen Festival tomorrow.....

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https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/festival/newyork/2018/

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I think MSNBC is going to carry it live. iHeart Radio is one of the many co-sponsors.

Thanks to get in the mood.....The Grammys 1987 Iconic performance of WHYDFM/Nasty in heels!!!!!!

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TURN ON MSNBC NOW! They are playing the Global Citizen Festival live and Janet is coming up VERY VERY soon.

TrivialPursuit said:

TURN ON MSNBC NOW! They are playing the Global Citizen Festival live and Janet is coming up VERY VERY soon.

And you can also watch it on YouTube (which was easier for me to access)........The 2018 Global Citizen Festival in New York City, presented by Johnson & Johnson....1:35:08 mark Naomi Campbell intros Janet Q-tip is there too Janet is snatching wigs and slaying

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ok, was at the grocery store yesterday and heard faintly a song that seemed to be janet but i couldn't tell for sure. it was a groove heavy slower jam, but not a 'bedroom ballad' that she is known for. hard to describe it, but it had a recurring drum kick with wispy vocals on it. i made a beeline to my car to see if i could find it on the radio. but no such luck. it had "hit" all over it, but i am not 100% sure if its her. if not, best imitation ever. i know with made for now just out, it SHOULDN'T be time for a new song, but maybe this is what she's shoppping to BLACK radio (hate to say that), IF its her.... HELP!!!!

this song is horrid Hopefully the rest of the album is better.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I have never seen this footage before Janet Jackson - Soul of MTV Special 1995

Control Live 1987 at the AMAS when the show kicked ass, back in the day

Goddess4Real said:

Control Live 1987 at the AMAS when the show kicked ass, back in the day

It was fun seeing that, I remember it. But it was just a lipsync. Blah. I liked the remix they did for the video to make it look live. I think they did the same with "What Have You Done For Me Lately" or something. Jimmy mentioned they redid some song on another show to make it feel live. Either way, that video and a couple of others around that time are such a great part of her history. It's Janet finally coming into her own as an artist in charge. She worked her ass off for it, too.

Goddess4Real said:

Control Live 1987 at the AMAS when the show kicked ass, back in the day

OMG I was obsessed with this performance as a kid. Watched it over and over, learned every move, and forced my mother to watch me re-enact it on a nightly basis. This and the WHYDFML performance from the Grammy's, when she got all skinny for a minute. Classics.

Oh, I found the one I was referencing earlier, WHYDFML at the Grammys: