ChocolateBox3121 said:

luvsexy4all said:

why did MJ intentionally leave him out of his will????

I'm pretty sure the type of person Katherine is. She gave Joe a share of it anyway.

I have a feeling MJ knew she'd help out the family with the money she gets from his estate,

[Edited 6/28/18 20:39pm]

bboy87 said:

bboy87 said:

The "narrative" about Joe being mean and abusive to his kids, while sometimes exaggerated, isn't " all smoke" as stated

We can give due to Joe for pushing and encouraging his kids to be the icons they've become and making the most successul family in pop music history as well as fighting people in the industry who didn't believe in his children as much as he did and also acknowledge some of his actions in raising his children was extremely hurtful and scarred them emotionally and mentally.

Also, we can ALSO acknowledge that when all of his children needed him, he was there

When Janet went through her problems, he was there

When LaToya finally got away from Jack Gordon, Joe was there

Every single day Michael was in court, Joe was there, literally holding his hand and was there holding him up as he walked out when he was acquitted

Was Joe the devil? No. Has he been unfairly depicted at times? Yes. But was he incredibly hard on his kids that it left them with emotional scars? Yes too.

The man had many layers

from the get go, when Jackson five debuted on the scene, the people who where there to experience it, they knew he was strict with his children........that's the thing......nobody's ever disputed that becuase even he said hew as strict and his wife said the same thing.....

there's nothing wrong with being strict when you know the environment around you and truth be told, I rather be too strict per se than too lax.....

nobody is saying he was perfect, no parent or person is perfect, but there's plenty of showbiz parents white and black who were just as strict and as much as disciplinarian that today's generation, the generations of the past 30 years don't know about

all this stuff about abuse and beating his kids was NEVER even thought of during the glory years from 1969-1985.......this crap about pulling out irons and sexual abuse was nothing but that...crap

Pandora's box

Like I say, the world's behavior in attacking this family has been downright criminal and it's worse than any horror flock I've ever seen. It's been disgusting to have to witness and everyone who's participated in this madness need to check themselves

People have felt they have the right to say what they want to say about them because of the context in which they were presented to the public as performers where they were to be identified as nothing but just that.

Imagine if this was happening to our family over the past 30 years....would we like it..nope............could we cope with it, it's a crap shoot

There's been plenty of child stars whose parents robbed them of their money, Joseph Jackson never did that.....even Michael Jackson himself said that years ago

and with everything pointed out, about how Joe was there for Janet, there for Michael, there for Latoya, then how in th world could he be a monster, or negligent in raising his kids

Now I'm lookin at this right here, and I feel no vibe whatsoever that Joe Jackson was an abuser to his family and that his kids has major input as to how their careers were going to evolve

Was he perfect, no......but there's no way he a monster

I only posted this to pay respects for the great musical legacy they have left behind but this story has reached its ending

[Edited 6/29/18 4:46am]

The one thing that puzzles me (and I learn this a long time ago) is that why everyone was getting on Joe's case for just being one thing.....................A father. Yes, he was very disciplinary and yes, he wasn't perfect in any sense whatsoever, but he (along with Katherine) was responsible for introducing the whole world to their talented children. No one person in that family bigger than its roots, not Janet, not Michael, no one! And what the rest of the family lacked in talent, made up in other entertaining ways and Joe made that possible. He knew the evils and ills of show business and knew what was heading his sons and daughters' ways if they slipped even once, but was there to help them pick up the pieces. People need to think before they act.

Yuuup Joe turned his children into stars......but there was a price which cannot be sugar coated.....How Joe Jackson Made—and Broke—Michael Jackson https://www.thedailybeast...ref=scroll

"In regards to Joe Jackson’s legacy, there are two undeniable truths: Joe Jackson was the catalyst for the remarkable success of the Jackson family, and he was also responsible for doing irrevocable damage to that family. We can’t pretend that he’s just a victim of his time—he was a calculating bully. His children’s scars are real and they have stayed with them. He was also a man who wanted something more for his family. He achieved that. That’s nothing to gloss over. We should recognize that vision. And we must acknowledge his role in building an entertainment empire. But I hope we also acknowledge that to make the King of Pop, he didn’t have to break Michael Jackson."

[Edited 6/29/18 16:53pm]

Goddess4Real said:

Yuuup Joe turned his children into stars......but there was a price which cannot be sugar coated.....How Joe Jackson Made—and Broke—Michael Jackson https://www.thedailybeast...ref=scroll

"In regards to Joe Jackson’s legacy, there are two undeniable truths: Joe Jackson was the catalyst for the remarkable success of the Jackson family, and he was also responsible for doing irrevocable damage to that family. We can’t pretend that he’s just a victim of his time—he was a calculating bully. His children’s scars are real and they have stayed with them. He was also a man who wanted something more for his family. He achieved that. That’s nothing to gloss over. We should recognize that vision. And we must acknowledge his role in building an entertainment empire. But I hope we also acknowledge that to make the King of Pop, he didn’t have to break Michael Jackson."

[Edited 6/29/18 16:53pm]

Joe Jackson didn't break Michael Jackson

The system did, and he even said it in his song Scream and Jam....

this was never said during the years of OTW and Thriller....

[Edited 6/30/18 7:48am]

woould MJ rather NOT have been pushed to the limits by JJ ..and NOT achieve the fame he had?????

luvsexy4all said:

woould MJ rather NOT have been pushed to the limits by JJ ..and NOT achieve the fame he had?????

Michael defended Joe over the years, saying if Joe hadn't pushed them and encouraged them, they wouldn't have reached the heights of success that they had. He also said as years passed, he understood why his father had been so hard on them, as his grandfather had tough on Joe and that's how Joe raised his children as well as not wanting them to be treated unfairly by people because of the color of their skin.

The thing is, people feel Joe left emotional and psychological scars on his children. Yes he made them stars, but there was a cost

MJ about Joe in a speech in 2001

You probably weren’t surprised to hear that I did not have an idyllic childhood. The strain and tension that exists in my relationship with my own father is well documented. My father is a tough man and he pushed my brothers and me hard, from the earliest age, to be the best performers we could be. He had great difficulty showing me affection. He never really told me he loved me. And he never really complimented me either. If I did a great show, he would tell me it was a good show. And if I did an okay show, he would say nothing. [Michael’s voice breaks and he starts to cry]

He seemed intent, above all else, on making us a commercial success. And at that he was more than adept. My father was a managerial genius and my brothers and I owe our professional success, in no small measure, to the forceful way that he pushed us. He trained me as a showman and under his guidance I couldn’t miss a step.

But what I really wanted was a Dad [he is still crying]. I wanted a father who showed me love. And my father never did that. He never said “I love you” while looking me straight in the eye, he never played a game with me. He never gave me a piggyback ride, he never threw a pillow at me, or a water balloon.

But I remember once when I was about four years old, there was a little carnival and he picked me up and put me on a pony. It was a tiny gesture, probably something he forgot five minutes later. But because of that moment I have this special place in my heart for him. Because that’s how kids are, the little things mean so much to them and for me, that one moment meant everything.

I only experienced it that one time, but it made me feel really good, about him and the world.

But now I am a father myself, and one day I was thinking about my own children, Prince and Paris and how I wanted them to think of me when they grow up. To be sure, I would like them to remember how I always wanted them with me wherever I went, how I always tried to put them before everything else. But there are also challenges in their lives. Because my kids are stalked by paparazzi, they can’t always go to a park or a movie with me. So what if they grow older and resent me, and how my choices impacted their youth? “Why weren’t we given an average childhood like all the other kids”, they might ask?

And at that moment I pray that my children will give me the benefit of the doubt. That they will say to themselves: “Our daddy did the best he could, given the unique circumstances that he faced. He may not have been perfect, but he was a warm and decent man, who tried to give us all the love in the world.”

I hope that they will always focus on the positive things, on the sacrifices I willingly made for them, and not criticise the things they had to give up, or the errors I’ve made, and will certainly continue to make, in raising them. For we have all been someone’s child, and we know that despite the very best of plans and efforts, mistakes will always occur. That’s just being human.

And when I think about this, of how I hope that my children will not judge me unkindly, and will forgive my shortcomings, I am forced to think of my own father and despite my earlier denials, I am forced to admit that he must have loved me. He did love me, and I know that. There were little things that showed it. When I was a kid I had a real sweet tooth — we all did. My favourite food was glazed doughnuts and my father knew that.

So every few weeks I would come downstairs in the morning and there on the kitchen counter was a bag of glazed doughnuts — no note, no explanation — just the doughnuts. It was like Santa Claus. Sometimes I would think about staying up late at night, so I could see him leave them there, but just like with Santa Claus, I didn’t want to ruin the magic for fear that he would never do it again. My father had to leave them secretly at night, so as no one might catch him with his guard down.

He was scared of human emotion, he didn’t understand it or know how to deal with it. But he did know doughnuts. And when I allow the floodgates to open up, there are other memories that come rushing back, memories of other tiny gestures, however imperfect, that showed that he did what he could.

So tonight, rather than focusing on what my father didn’t do, I want to focus on all the things he did do and on his own personal challenges. I want to stop judging him.

I have started reflecting on the fact that my father grew up in the South, in a very poor family. He came of age during the Depression and his own father, who struggled to feed his children, showed little affection towards his family and raised my father and his siblings with an iron fist. Who could have imagined what it was like to grow up a poor black man in the South, robbed of dignity, bereft of hope, struggling to become a man in a world that saw my father as subordinate. I was the first black artist to be played on MTV and I remember how big a deal it was even then. And that was in the 1980s!

My father moved to Indiana and had a large family of his own, working long hours in the steel mills, work that kills the lungs and humbles the spirit, all to support his family. Is it any wonder that he found it difficult to expose his feelings? Is it any mystery that he hardened his heart, that he raised the emotional ramparts? And most of all, is it any wonder why he pushed his sons so hard to succeed as performers, so that they could be saved from what he knew to be a life of indignity and poverty? I have begun to see that even my father’s harshness was a kind of love, an imperfect love, to be sure, but love nonetheless. He pushed me because he loved me. Because he wanted no man ever to look down at his offspring.

And now with time, rather than bitterness, I feel blessing. In the place of anger, I have found absolution.

And in the place of revenge I have found reconciliation. And my initial fury has slowly given way to forgiveness.

Almost a decade ago, I founded a charity called ‘Heal the World’. The title was something I felt inside me.

Little did I know, as Shmuley later pointed out, that those two words form the cornerstone of Old Testament prophecy.

Do I really believe that we can heal this world, that is riddled with war and genocide, even today? And do I really think that we can heal our children, the same children who can enter their schools with guns and hatred and shoot down their classmates, like they did at Columbine? Or children who can beat a defenseless toddler to death, like the tragic story of Jamie Bulger? Of course I do! of course I do or I wouldn’t be here tonight.

But it all begins with forgiveness, because to heal the world, we first have to heal ourselves. And to heal the kids, we first have to heal the child within, each and every one of us. As an adult, and as a parent, I realise that I cannot be a whole human being, nor a parent capable of unconditional love, until I put to rest the ghosts of my own childhood. And that’s what I’m asking all of us to do tonight. Live up to the fifth of the ten Commandments.

Honour your parents by not judging them. Give them the benefit of the doubt.

That is why I want to forgive my father and to stop judging him. I want to forgive my father, because I want a father, and this is the only one that I’ve got. I want the weight of my past lifted from my shoulders and I want to be free to step into a new relationship with my father, for the rest of my life, unhindered by the goblins of the past.

Read more: https://www.truemichaelja...sity-2001/

bboy87 said:

I find it VERY odd. That any of the old Motown stars HAS NOT acknowledged or made a statement about Joe's recent passing.

Diana,Smokey,Glady's etc. They've known him for over FORTY years since 1968 . It speaks VOLUMES to me.

bboy87 said:

luvsexy4all said:

woould MJ rather NOT have been pushed to the limits by JJ ..and NOT achieve the fame he had?????

Michael defended Joe over the years, saying if Joe hadn't pushed them and encouraged them, they wouldn't have reached the heights of success that they had. He also said as years passed, he understood why his father had been so hard on them, as his grandfather had tough on Joe and that's how Joe raised his children as well as not wanting them to be treated unfairly by people because of the color of their skin.

The thing is, people feel Joe left emotional and psychological scars on his children. Yes he made them stars, but there was a cost

MJ about Joe in a speech in 2001

You probably weren’t surprised to hear that I did not have an idyllic childhood. The strain and tension that exists in my relationship with my own father is well documented. My father is a tough man and he pushed my brothers and me hard, from the earliest age, to be the best performers we could be. He had great difficulty showing me affection. He never really told me he loved me. And he never really complimented me either. If I did a great show, he would tell me it was a good show. And if I did an okay show, he would say nothing. [Michael’s voice breaks and he starts to cry]

He seemed intent, above all else, on making us a commercial success. And at that he was more than adept. My father was a managerial genius and my brothers and I owe our professional success, in no small measure, to the forceful way that he pushed us. He trained me as a showman and under his guidance I couldn’t miss a step.

But what I really wanted was a Dad [he is still crying]. I wanted a father who showed me love. And my father never did that. He never said “I love you” while looking me straight in the eye, he never played a game with me. He never gave me a piggyback ride, he never threw a pillow at me, or a water balloon.

But I remember once when I was about four years old, there was a little carnival and he picked me up and put me on a pony. It was a tiny gesture, probably something he forgot five minutes later. But because of that moment I have this special place in my heart for him. Because that’s how kids are, the little things mean so much to them and for me, that one moment meant everything.

I only experienced it that one time, but it made me feel really good, about him and the world.

But now I am a father myself, and one day I was thinking about my own children, Prince and Paris and how I wanted them to think of me when they grow up. To be sure, I would like them to remember how I always wanted them with me wherever I went, how I always tried to put them before everything else. But there are also challenges in their lives. Because my kids are stalked by paparazzi, they can’t always go to a park or a movie with me. So what if they grow older and resent me, and how my choices impacted their youth? “Why weren’t we given an average childhood like all the other kids”, they might ask?

And at that moment I pray that my children will give me the benefit of the doubt. That they will say to themselves: “Our daddy did the best he could, given the unique circumstances that he faced. He may not have been perfect, but he was a warm and decent man, who tried to give us all the love in the world.”

I hope that they will always focus on the positive things, on the sacrifices I willingly made for them, and not criticise the things they had to give up, or the errors I’ve made, and will certainly continue to make, in raising them. For we have all been someone’s child, and we know that despite the very best of plans and efforts, mistakes will always occur. That’s just being human.

And when I think about this, of how I hope that my children will not judge me unkindly, and will forgive my shortcomings, I am forced to think of my own father and despite my earlier denials, I am forced to admit that he must have loved me. He did love me, and I know that. There were little things that showed it. When I was a kid I had a real sweet tooth — we all did. My favourite food was glazed doughnuts and my father knew that.

So every few weeks I would come downstairs in the morning and there on the kitchen counter was a bag of glazed doughnuts — no note, no explanation — just the doughnuts. It was like Santa Claus. Sometimes I would think about staying up late at night, so I could see him leave them there, but just like with Santa Claus, I didn’t want to ruin the magic for fear that he would never do it again. My father had to leave them secretly at night, so as no one might catch him with his guard down.

He was scared of human emotion, he didn’t understand it or know how to deal with it. But he did know doughnuts. And when I allow the floodgates to open up, there are other memories that come rushing back, memories of other tiny gestures, however imperfect, that showed that he did what he could.

So tonight, rather than focusing on what my father didn’t do, I want to focus on all the things he did do and on his own personal challenges. I want to stop judging him.

I have started reflecting on the fact that my father grew up in the South, in a very poor family. He came of age during the Depression and his own father, who struggled to feed his children, showed little affection towards his family and raised my father and his siblings with an iron fist. Who could have imagined what it was like to grow up a poor black man in the South, robbed of dignity, bereft of hope, struggling to become a man in a world that saw my father as subordinate. I was the first black artist to be played on MTV and I remember how big a deal it was even then. And that was in the 1980s!

My father moved to Indiana and had a large family of his own, working long hours in the steel mills, work that kills the lungs and humbles the spirit, all to support his family. Is it any wonder that he found it difficult to expose his feelings? Is it any mystery that he hardened his heart, that he raised the emotional ramparts? And most of all, is it any wonder why he pushed his sons so hard to succeed as performers, so that they could be saved from what he knew to be a life of indignity and poverty? I have begun to see that even my father’s harshness was a kind of love, an imperfect love, to be sure, but love nonetheless. He pushed me because he loved me. Because he wanted no man ever to look down at his offspring.

And now with time, rather than bitterness, I feel blessing. In the place of anger, I have found absolution.

And in the place of revenge I have found reconciliation. And my initial fury has slowly given way to forgiveness.

Almost a decade ago, I founded a charity called ‘Heal the World’. The title was something I felt inside me.

Little did I know, as Shmuley later pointed out, that those two words form the cornerstone of Old Testament prophecy.

Do I really believe that we can heal this world, that is riddled with war and genocide, even today? And do I really think that we can heal our children, the same children who can enter their schools with guns and hatred and shoot down their classmates, like they did at Columbine? Or children who can beat a defenseless toddler to death, like the tragic story of Jamie Bulger? Of course I do! of course I do or I wouldn’t be here tonight.

But it all begins with forgiveness, because to heal the world, we first have to heal ourselves. And to heal the kids, we first have to heal the child within, each and every one of us. As an adult, and as a parent, I realise that I cannot be a whole human being, nor a parent capable of unconditional love, until I put to rest the ghosts of my own childhood. And that’s what I’m asking all of us to do tonight. Live up to the fifth of the ten Commandments.

Honour your parents by not judging them. Give them the benefit of the doubt.

That is why I want to forgive my father and to stop judging him. I want to forgive my father, because I want a father, and this is the only one that I’ve got. I want the weight of my past lifted from my shoulders and I want to be free to step into a new relationship with my father, for the rest of my life, unhindered by the goblins of the past.

Read more: https://www.truemichaelja...sity-2001/

And by June 2009 they were estranged because Joe was trying to get $$$$ out of him and sign him up for those Jackson Family Reunion shows, and MJ left Joe out of ALL his wills. MJ forgave (but didn't forget) Joe in an attempt to save his own sanity, not to alleviate him of any blame or guilt.

[Edited 6/30/18 18:26pm]

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I find it VERY odd. That any of the old Motown stars HAS NOT acknowledged or made a statement about Joe's recent passing.

Diana,Smokey,Glady's etc. They've known him for over FORTY years since 1968 . It speaks VOLUMES to me.

RJOrion said:

Scorp said: "Joe Jackson didn't break Michael Jackson The system did..." ______________________ ...end of story

Come on now everything about Michael’s tragic life, and now Janet’s admission of depression (which she talked about in Essence Magazine), has to do with Joe Jackson. This is the same man who in 2009, just 72 hours after MJ died.......was at the BET Awards plugging a record label with an MJ Impersonator. It didn't look like he was grieving too much, was he?

[Edited 6/30/18 19:01pm]

getxxxx said:

the icon has passed....

The icon can suck the devil's dick in hell. Glad that fucker finally croked.

Goddess4Real said:

RJOrion said:

Scorp said: "Joe Jackson didn't break Michael Jackson The system did..." ______________________ ...end of story

Come on now everything about Michael’s tragic life, and now Janet’s admission of depression (which she talked about in Essence Magazine), has to do with Joe Jackson. This is the same man who in 2009, just 72 hours after MJ died.......was at the BET Awards plugging a record label with an MJ Impersonator. It didn't look like he was grieving too much, was he?

[Edited 6/30/18 19:01pm]

I don't have time for it anymore...this story and the realness of what was once real ended eons ago.....

all that's left is what could have beens, what should have beens and what never need to be along with stuff and situations that's anything but real.....

it's all over.....

Prince Michael defended his Grandpa too. You know what guys, I think you can't defend people who beat up their kids, what Joe did really was abusive, I'm sorry, but that's the truth. You don't have to beat your kids to make them work harder.

Prince Michael said they (his Dad and the others) would've ended up being in Gangs or dead if Joe wouldn't have been so hard on them. I'm not so sure if that is true.......

However, everybody who says that it's good that Joe is dead now is really dumb, like, it doesn't make you a better human being for saying shit like that. Paris, Prince and I bet the other Jacksons really seem to miss Joe and there are people who say shit like that. Have some respect and human decency, it's funny how some say Joe was evil and then wish him the worst at the same time. This hypocrisy is sickening.

Here's the link to Prince's statement:

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/30/prince-jackson-defends-late-granddad-joe-abuse-claims-emerge-days-death-7672576/

The beautiful Janet(my favorite jackson) with her handsome ONLY child Eissa Almana.

Jackie Jackson with one of his twin boys.

Uncle Marlon with Jackie's other twin son

Moat parents have trouble getting their kids to clean their rooms. Joe took his kids from Gary to world stardom. Respect and RIP.

Prince Jackson defends late granddad Joe as abuse claims emerge days after his death

Rishma DosaniSaturday 30 Jun 2018 12:21 pm

https://metro.co.uk/2018/...h-7672576/

Joe Jackson died aged 89 (Picture: Reuters)

Joe Jackson died aged 89, following a battle with cancer.

And Michael Jackson’s son, Prince, has defended his late granddad against critics and reports of ‘abusive parenting’, following his death.

Taking to his Instagram story, the 21-year-old shared a video with his 472,000 followers, blasting claims he ‘abused’ the Thriller singer.

‘We’ve got couple of things to talk about,’ he began. ‘One of the things I’m going to talk about today is my grandpa and what y’all fucks gotta say about him.

Prince Jackson lashed at out at critics over granddad Joe (Picture: Instagram)

‘You can keep talking all the shit you want that he abused my dad and all this – I’m going to make a YouTube video about it for sure, but he raised these kids right. Otherwise they would have been in gangs or fucking dead.

‘So go ahead, keep talking shit, but you won’t ever be as great as one of that man’s fucking balls in his nutsack. Just remember that.’

Prince was one of the first to pay tribute to Joe after his death, earlier this week.

Alongside a post shared on his social media profile, he wrote: ‘This man is and always will be an example of sheer willpower and dedication. He didn’t choose the path that was the easiest but he choose the path that was best for his family.

‘You taught me to take pride in the Jackson name and what it really means, you taught me dedication in the face of adversity and most of all you showed me strength and fearlessness.

‘There is and never will be someone like you. Fly free and until we meet again The Hawk.’

His words come after previous interviews came to light, following Joe’s death, with his children opening up about his abusive past.

During an interview with Oprah in 1993, Michael revealed the dad-of-eleven would often beat himself and his brothers – who performed as the Jackson 5 – if they messed up during rehearsals.

‘If you didn’t do it the right way, he would tear you up, really get you,’ the late music icon claimed.

‘Some may call it a strict disciplinarian or whatever, but he was very strict. He was very hard. Just a look would scare… but I do forgive him.’

Joe opened up about the abuse in a later interview (Picture: Getty)

Joe later spoke out about the abuse, in his own chat with Oprah, but confessed he didn’t regret his actions.

‘I don’t [regret the beatings],’ he explained back in 2010.

More: Showbiz

‘It kept them out of jail and kept them right. I don’t think [Michael] was afraid of me.

‘What he was afraid of, he may do something wrong and I’d chastise him but not beat him. I never beat him like the media tried to say.’

[Edited 7/4/18 18:40pm]

[Edited 7/4/18 18:44pm]

DonRants said:

Prince Jackson defends late granddad Joe as abuse claims emerge days after his death

Rishma DosaniSaturday 30 Jun 2018 12:21 pm

Joe Jackson died aged 89 (Picture: Reuters)

Joe Jackson died aged 89, following a battle with cancer.

And Michael Jackson’s son, Prince, has defended his late granddad against critics and reports of ‘abusive parenting’, following his death.

Taking to his Instagram story, the 21-year-old shared a video with his 472,000 followers, blasting claims he ‘abused’ the Thriller singer.

‘We’ve got couple of things to talk about,’ he began. ‘One of the things I’m going to talk about today is my grandpa and what y’all fucks gotta say about him.

Prince Jackson lashed at out at critics over granddad Joe (Picture: Instagram)

‘You can keep talking all the shit you want that he abused my dad and all this – I’m going to make a YouTube video about it for sure, but he raised these kids right. Otherwise they would have been in gangs or fucking dead.

‘So go ahead, keep talking shit, but you won’t ever be as great as one of that man’s fucking balls in his nutsack. Just remember that.’

Prince was one of the first to pay tribute to Joe after his death, earlier this week.

Alongside a post shared on his social media profile, he wrote: ‘This man is and always will be an example of sheer willpower and dedication. He didn’t choose the path that was the easiest but he choose the path that was best for his family.

‘You taught me to take pride in the Jackson name and what it really means, you taught me dedication in the face of adversity and most of all you showed me strength and fearlessness.

‘There is and never will be someone like you. Fly free and until we meet again The Hawk.’

His words come after previous interviews came to light, following Joe’s death, with his children opening up about his abusive past.

During an interview with Oprah in 1993, Michael revealed the dad-of-eleven would often beat himself and his brothers – who performed as the Jackson 5 – if they messed up during rehearsals.

‘If you didn’t do it the right way, he would tear you up, really get you,’ the late music icon claimed.

‘Some may call it a strict disciplinarian or whatever, but he was very strict. He was very hard. Just a look would scare… but I do forgive him.’

Joe opened up about the abuse in a later interview (Picture: Getty)

Joe later spoke out about the abuse, in his own chat with Oprah, but confessed he didn’t regret his actions.

‘I don’t [regret the beatings],’ he explained back in 2010.

More: Showbiz

‘It kept them out of jail and kept them right. I don’t think [Michael] was afraid of me.

‘What he was afraid of, he may do something wrong and I’d chastise him but not beat him. I never beat him like the media tried to say.’

[Edited 7/4/18 18:40pm]

Here is Paris's response...........

Jackie Talks Nerdy ☔️‏ @JackieTalkNerdy Jul 2

Paris-Michael K. J.‏Verified account @ParisJackson

Of course the ironic thing is that it was Michael who painted Joe as abusive. Not the media. It satrted in the Oprah interview in '93. So when Prince comes out against people attacking his granddad... Anywhooo.

DonRants said:

Of course the ironic thing is that it was Michael who painted Joe as abusive. Not the media. It satrted in the Oprah interview in '93. So when Prince comes out against people attacking his granddad... Anywhooo.

I thought it was Latoya with her tell-all book in the early 90s?

Goddess4Real said:

Goddess4Real said:

DonRants said:

Of course the ironic thing is that it was Michael who painted Joe as abusive. Not the media. It satrted in the Oprah interview in '93. So when Prince comes out against people attacking his granddad... Anywhooo.

I thought it was Latoya with her tell-all book in the early 90s?

There were talk about Joe being really strict/harsh towards the kids but it was definitely LaToya's book (that was full of fabrication) and J. Randy Taraborelli's book that really had people talking about it.

Matter of fact, I think Marlon did an interview in the late 80s that alluded to Joe's treatment. I think the old website, The Michael Jackson Archives had scans of Marlon's interviews. I'll ask the owner

What I remember is in the interview with Oprah..MJ revealed that he vomits when his dad comes to visit..."regurgitate' was the word he used. That was what entered the cultural zigest. And once MJ started he never stopped...in subsequent interviews he epeated the stories.

The sad thing is many parents were strict back in the day. "Spare the rod and spoil the child" was an often repeated biblical phrase. And honestly, when I look at the kids of today who have no respect for their elders..who will swear and use all types of language in front of adults....I think some discipline is sadly missing...Not to the point of abuse...but this generations of kids are sadly missing disclipline.

what makes JJ a shit is he did all this to make money for the family..not make the kids better people