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Thread started 06/20/18 10:33am

Derek1984

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The Jacksons - Wondering Who

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFeyTqbGNJQ

For the MJ fans - give this a listen. And that bridge (3:55) has unreleased MJ vocals left off the album.

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Reply #1 posted 06/20/18 1:38pm

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Love the album it's on too. music
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Reply #2 posted 06/20/18 2:29pm

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Seems like Nick has some interesting multitracks. I like his mixes more than most.

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Reply #3 posted 06/21/18 9:54am

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Triumph is such a wonderful record, front to back. There is not a bad song on it. If memory serves, the song sort of runs out with a Prince-esque bit of "confusion".

This remix seems a tad slower and feels like its key is a half-step lower.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #4 posted 06/21/18 11:38am

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TrivialPursuit said:

Triumph is such a wonderful record, front to back. There is not a bad song on it. If memory serves, the song sort of runs out with a Prince-esque bit of "confusion".

This remix seems a tad slower and feels like its key is a half-step lower.

I wonder if this song was intentionally sped up on the album to make it all fit?

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Reply #5 posted 06/21/18 7:33pm

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Derek1984 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Triumph is such a wonderful record, front to back. There is not a bad song on it. If memory serves, the song sort of runs out with a Prince-esque bit of "confusion".

This remix seems a tad slower and feels like its key is a half-step lower.

I wonder if this song was intentionally sped up on the album to make it all fit?


Nah, artists weren't doing that. You simply faded other songs sooner, or cut a verse, etc. You're assuming the album version is sped up, when in fact the remix posted could be slowed down.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #6 posted 06/23/18 2:19am

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TrivialPursuit said:



Derek1984 said:




TrivialPursuit said:


Triumph is such a wonderful record, front to back. There is not a bad song on it. If memory serves, the song sort of runs out with a Prince-esque bit of "confusion".

This remix seems a tad slower and feels like its key is a half-step lower.





I wonder if this song was intentionally sped up on the album to make it all fit?




Nah, artists weren't doing that. You simply faded other songs sooner, or cut a verse, etc. You're assuming the album version is sped up, when in fact the remix posted could be slowed down.



On the contrary artists were doing that. Especially MJ. Actually On the Bad album, 4 or 6 tracks are sped up to 6 percent: Bad, Dirty Diana...I was very disappointed when I learned of that.
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Prince did that too.
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I love the new bridge on Wondering Who. Triumph and Destiny are better than Off the Wall, for sure.
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Reply #7 posted 06/23/18 4:15am

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Derek1984 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Triumph is such a wonderful record, front to back. There is not a bad song on it. If memory serves, the song sort of runs out with a Prince-esque bit of "confusion".

This remix seems a tad slower and feels like its key is a half-step lower.

I wonder if this song was intentionally sped up on the album to make it all fit?

It certsinly was. Nick confirmed it in the comments. He has the multitracks and i played it side by side to check. the album version is slightly higher tempo

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Reply #8 posted 06/23/18 8:32am

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TrivialPursuit said:



Derek1984 said:




TrivialPursuit said:


Triumph is such a wonderful record, front to back. There is not a bad song on it. If memory serves, the song sort of runs out with a Prince-esque bit of "confusion".

This remix seems a tad slower and feels like its key is a half-step lower.





I wonder if this song was intentionally sped up on the album to make it all fit?




Nah, artists weren't doing that. You simply faded other songs sooner, or cut a verse, etc. You're assuming the album version is sped up, when in fact the remix posted could be slowed down.


As far back as James Brown were doin ut. Listen to.Papas Got a Brand New Bag.
PRINCE: Always and Forever
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Reply #9 posted 06/23/18 11:05am

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

As far back as James Brown were doin it. Listen to.Papas Got a Brand New Bag.

Parts of Strawberry Fields by The Beatles was speeded up because John wanted 2 different takes put together. George Martin told him they were in 2 different keys & tempos and it wouldn't work. But John wanted Martin to fix it. I've read that some pressings of Miles Davis' album Kind Of Blue were speeded up but others are at the right speed. I've never heard of anybody making songs faster to fit on an album though.

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