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Reply #30 posted 06/06/18 7:13am

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Listening to the new Kanye is kind of like… Being a therapist and listening to him ramble on and on about himself and his obsessions while constantly looking at the clock just waiting for to be over #YE #meh
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Reply #31 posted 06/06/18 7:38am

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Kanye West (1977-2012)
Kanye Kardashian (2012-present)

You are buggin' if you think the Kanye of today is the same person that burst on the scene 14 years ago.
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Reply #32 posted 06/06/18 8:12am

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"nobody cares about kanye" but ya asses are still here talking about him falloff

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Reply #33 posted 06/06/18 9:32am

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2020 said:

Listening to the new Kanye is kind of like… Being a therapist and listening to him ramble on and on about himself and his obsessions while constantly looking at the clock just waiting for to be over #YE #meh

^ this one

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Reply #34 posted 06/06/18 9:53am

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RJOrion said:

2020 said:

Listening to the new Kanye is kind of like… Being a therapist and listening to him ramble on and on about himself and his obsessions while constantly looking at the clock just waiting for to be over #YE #meh

^ this one

No kidding. Is anyone surprised that his recent behavior had everything to do with a new cd release? This guy is sickening. Mental illness or not, I can't stand the fucker. He's fake news all the way!!

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Reply #35 posted 06/06/18 4:14pm

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liljojo said:


I'm glad to know you don't like hip hop,


Love me some hip-hop, that's got nothing to do with it ... I just don't like rude people, and if I don't like the person it turns me off their music, simple as that. Same reason I don't give Chris Brown the time of day, same reason I don't listen to U2 anymore, etc, etc. I don't find it easy to look past people's shady behaviour just because they put together some catchy music. And yes, at times, I've lumped Prince in with that.


Then I stand checked and corrected! lol <- Thats only to daveT not the rest of you that's here to post about kanye being garbage. If we all lived in glass houses boy oh boy would the tides change.

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Reply #36 posted 06/06/18 5:10pm

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What did U2 do?!?! Besides write the lyric “freedom has a scent / like the top of a newborn babies head” eek
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Reply #37 posted 06/06/18 6:16pm

Strive

liljojo said:

I believe a lot of people take Gemini's such as Andre 3000, 2Pac, Prince, Kanye, and etc at face value when these people have split personalities that can change at any moment. The same why you all feel about Kanye being crazy and a pathetic human is the same way folks felt about Prince after Purple Rain.

As for the slavery remark he said, people need to watch the interview with the black lady that was there before he said that line. Wrong as it is, I believe he was too hyped from listening to her and then spoke way out of term. To clarify and fix what he was trying to say is, for the past few years the black community have been living under the slave morality state of mind that only the white americans can save us. Why wait for a hand out when in the past 10 years we have the money and talent to build and help ourselves. Which is what he should have said even though it would've been hypocritical on his part for not supporting black own businesses. All of our so called top black celebrities don't really support black businesses but they promote Target, Wal-Mart, Bank of America, Walt Disney, and other stores and businesses that don't care for us but want our money. Even Michael Jackson and Prince supported white banks and businesses over help their own.

So if we are going to be fair and go down this lane of throwing Kanye under bus then you all need to stop supporting ALL ENTERTAINERS. Because truth be told, every entertainer has and will say racial things you agree to or strongly disagree to. If you don't like Kanye music, fine. But if you're going to say you don't like him for stuff he say and don't really mean the way it comes out then you all don't really support Prince or 2pac.

The gemini zodiac people have split personalities meaning they will say phuck the world one moment and then say heal the world the next moment and then say hell with everybody it's all about ME. Donald Trump for example, gemini, that's why lying and starting verbal fights is nothing to him. If you all think what kanye said is off the chain then come listen to my dad and grandfather who are both gemini's.

FYI: I do agree with Kanye and Jim Brown on hollywood and other movie studious need to stop making slave movies and tv shows. That's really the reason we still getting racial tension. This was brought up in the 80's about the roles black people have in films that's very degrading only for hip hop and ALL ROCK music to degrade us especially women even further but you support those acts and complain about Kanye and scream how woke you are. If you're so woke then stop fighting people that's doing their best to help and teach & show the person how to help. But the only thing we all do is complain with no positive solutions in mind because it's almost like we live to work and be depressed whether than we work to live and create opportunities. If we are all real and step out of our fantasy bubbles for a minute you will admit that we as people have truly lost hope and faith in humanity.

EVERYBODY WANTS WHAT THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO GIVE AND THAT'S LOVE, COMPASSION, MERCY, FORGIVENESS. Until we start doing that for one another we will continue dividing and teaching the youth to divide from each other based on gender, skin color, culture, and be opportunist, abusers, users, false accusers, and know it all type of people.



A really good post that nobody read or commented on. Shame.

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Reply #38 posted 06/06/18 8:57pm

RJOrion

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red-hot-irony alert: the prince.org community is clocking an artist for being self-indulgent, without singles, too emotional, living in a mansion far away from the streets, and being insensitive about US slavery... eek


Next he'll wear assless pants, and we'll burn his albums.

[Edited 6/3/18 8:59am]




you might be right about all that...but Kanye West is not talented enough, smart enough, gifted enough, strong enough, resilient enough, or pretty enough, to get away with it...
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Reply #39 posted 06/07/18 12:32am

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What did U2 do?!?! Besides write the lyric “freedom has a scent / like the top of a newborn babies head” eek


More Bono than U2 ... I can't stand all the political and social statements he pushes, all the while he doesn't practice what he preaches. He's does quite nicely out of pushing the fact their an Irish band but he doesn't pay an ounce of tax there (and Ireland is a country that's not particularly well off), and some of his business practices leave a bit to be desired, but its our job to put our hand in our pocket to help the poor. Dude should have just stuck to making music.

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Reply #40 posted 06/07/18 10:35am

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All Kanye wants is attention, just like his wife and her disgusting family, and I for one, refuse to give it to him or the rest of the K clan.

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Reply #41 posted 06/07/18 2:11pm

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One of his best productions in the last couple of years (arguably on of the best songs on Rebel Heart):

He's great behind the scenes but he cant help himself to talk erratically.

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Reply #42 posted 06/07/18 6:03pm

liljojo

Still a great album lol once you get past track 1. Production wise it's great, lyric wise it's kanye lol , 4.1/5 rating.

The same way y'all attacking him I hope you hold yourself up to the judgment you cast. It's funny once it was said that he was honest and spoke about recent events how this turned into a bash kanye thread and say a album you haven't heard is garbage. I really wish I knew how to bring people together because at 33yrs old I'm tired of the fighting and dividing. It's ok to have opinions but it's hard to share opinions with people that think their opinions is the gospel truth like Jesus in red letters.

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Reply #43 posted 06/07/18 9:22pm

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All Mine = instant classic. Whole album is pretty decent, I even like the first track. Might not buy it, but will get sum nice spins out of it. Damn, that ass bustin out the bottom pc lol.

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Reply #44 posted 06/08/18 4:05am

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liljojo said:

Still a great album lol once you get past track 1. Production wise it's great, lyric wise it's kanye lol , 4.1/5 rating.

The same way y'all attacking him I hope you hold yourself up to the judgment you cast. It's funny once it was said that he was honest and spoke about recent events how this turned into a bash kanye thread and say a album you haven't heard is garbage. I really wish I knew how to bring people together because at 33yrs old I'm tired of the fighting and dividing. It's ok to have opinions but it's hard to share opinions with people that think their opinions is the gospel truth like Jesus in red letters.

So people like Kanye?

Y'all need to stop making excuses for this man. It's fine if you like the album but let's not act as though Kanye is some sagacious philosopher on life. He hasn't said anything we've heard more coherently and more eloquently from others but he's probably deluded enough to think he's opening the entire population up to new worlds. If you can't understand why people are turned off by his most recent comments then there's really no point in explaining why.
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Reply #45 posted 06/08/18 8:41am

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I agree there are some nice musical moments in the album.


I don't agree with his moments as of recent..but does that make the music bad? Why are non-fans even talking about his music? Why are you wasting your time on somebody you don't even care about? What good does that do?


Make me listen to it even more. See what happened to R. kelly? Listens spiked up to 200%. Just cant keep his name out their mouths.

Looking at Kelly’s rounded daily numbers for the seven days including and following the May 10 announcement, he totaled 6,676,000 streams, nearly 100,000 more than his weekly average of 6,584,000.


Anyway...
Kanye and Kid Cudi's first time debut was just released today:

Image result for kids see ghosts

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Reply #46 posted 06/08/18 9:06am

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Mintchip said:

What did U2 do?!?! Besides write the lyric “freedom has a scent / like the top of a newborn babies head” eek

eek

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Reply #47 posted 06/08/18 9:37am

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paisleypark4 said:

I agree there are some nice musical moments in the album.


I don't agree with his moments as of recent..but does that make the music bad? Why are non-fans even talking about his music? Why are you wasting your time on somebody you don't even care about? What good does that do?


Make me listen to it even more. See what happened to R. kelly? Listens spiked up to 200%. Just cant keep his name out their mouths.

Looking at Kelly’s rounded daily numbers for the seven days including and following the May 10 announcement, he totaled 6,676,000 streams, nearly 100,000 more than his weekly average of 6,584,000.


Anyway...
Kanye and Kid Cudi's first time debut was just released today:

Image result for kids see ghosts

You habe me mistaken. I haven't been enthralled with Kanye's music since MBDTF very near 8 years ago. The dude's music has at best, not clicked with me and at worst, turned me off. Add his new Kardashian style of marketing (all publicity is good publicity) and attention-seeking and it's just a recipe for disaster, especially when his personal life and what he's been saying ties into his music.

I'm a fan of Kanye West, not Kanye Kardashian. Album-wise, he hasn't been Kanye West since 2010.
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Reply #48 posted 06/08/18 10:03am

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MotownSubdivision said:

liljojo said:

Still a great album lol once you get past track 1. Production wise it's great, lyric wise it's kanye lol , 4.1/5 rating.

The same way y'all attacking him I hope you hold yourself up to the judgment you cast. It's funny once it was said that he was honest and spoke about recent events how this turned into a bash kanye thread and say a album you haven't heard is garbage. I really wish I knew how to bring people together because at 33yrs old I'm tired of the fighting and dividing. It's ok to have opinions but it's hard to share opinions with people that think their opinions is the gospel truth like Jesus in red letters.

So people like Kanye? Y'all need to stop making excuses for this man. It's fine if you like the album but let's not act as though Kanye is some sagacious philosopher on life. He hasn't said anything we've heard more coherently and more eloquently from others but he's probably deluded enough to think he's opening the entire population up to new worlds. If you can't understand why people are turned off by his most recent comments then there's really no point in explaining why.


Nobody is protecting his actions, we're saying if you don't like him or turned off by him cool. But that has nothing to do with listening to his album or his work. Again, nobody is protecting his bizarre actions, that's for Kim to do.

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Reply #49 posted 06/08/18 12:11pm

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MotownSubdivision said:

paisleypark4 said:



You have me mistaken. I haven't been enthralled with Kanye's music since MBDTF very near 8 years ago. The dude's music has at best, not clicked with me and at worst, turned me off. Add his new Kardashian style of marketing (all publicity is good publicity) and attention-seeking and it's just a recipe for disaster, especially when his personal life and what he's been saying ties into his music. I'm a fan of Kanye West, not Kanye Kardashian. Album-wise, he hasn't been Kanye West since 2010.

Okay, so why be Bart. Be yourself. 8 years is a long time to not listen to an artists work and be able to still criticise his work accuratley. His personality is a mess but if you havent heard anything from On Sight to Saint Pablo including all the tracks he produced for in that span of time...how can one trust your musical opinion?

That is from Grafitti Bridge to Crystal Ball in terms of length. Any fan of P who skipped that whole era is not a fan and have no credentials to speak.

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Reply #50 posted 06/08/18 2:51pm

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Cudi's album is even worse than Ye's... period...its barely hiphop...Cudi is a 1 hit wonder...Day & Night was cool, everything since, is an endless stream of gibberish from that nerd...
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Reply #51 posted 06/08/18 4:30pm

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paisleypark4 said:



MotownSubdivision said:


paisleypark4 said:





You have me mistaken. I haven't been enthralled with Kanye's music since MBDTF very near 8 years ago. The dude's music has at best, not clicked with me and at worst, turned me off. Add his new Kardashian style of marketing (all publicity is good publicity) and attention-seeking and it's just a recipe for disaster, especially when his personal life and what he's been saying ties into his music. I'm a fan of Kanye West, not Kanye Kardashian. Album-wise, he hasn't been Kanye West since 2010.

Okay, so why be Bart. Be yourself. 8 years is a long time to not listen to an artists work and be able to still criticise his work accuratley. His personality is a mess but if you havent heard anything from On Sight to Saint Pablo including all the tracks he produced for in that span of time...how can one trust your musical opinion?

That is from Grafitti Bridge to Crystal Ball in terms of length. Any fan of P who skipped that whole era is not a fan and have no credentials to speak.

Why are you assuming I haven't heard any of his music since 2010? Me not liking his albums since then doesn't mean I haven't listened to them...
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Reply #52 posted 06/09/18 4:27pm

liljojo

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Why are you assuming I haven't heard any of his music since 2010? Me not liking his albums since then doesn't mean I haven't listened to them...


Well you can't say the songs the wouldn't leave, violent crimes, no mistakes, bound 2, blood on the leaves are lackluster tracks. Kanye have been trying to prove with the latest albums, like Prince, that radio airplay will control the music he put out. So what he has been doing is using gospel and video game sounds samples with old rock to make out different beats. While trap is going, he's refusing to be another trap artist. And shot out to Prince for sonic sounds and drum machines used heavily in his music as he's the founder of Trap music today. Kanye, 2Pac, Andre 3000, El Debarge, Patti Labelle, Curtis Mayfield, Biggie Smalls, Lauryn Hill and some other gemini music artists always go against what is popular at the prime of their superstardom. Kendrick Lamar will be the next artist to switch up his style, which he is doing. Prince was never 1979-85 again 1986 - 1995 was the weird slave face Prince that made Pussy Control and Sexy Motherfucker (funny songs lol ) The same way Kanye will probably never be 2002 - 2008 Kanye West. Kanye from 2010 - present have been pushing to into dark twisted problems within the industry like Prince did. It's almost like you're watching a hip-hop Prince in the 2000's. Kanye don't want nobody producing for his artists (Prince attitude), Kanye don't want to be censored or told how much music he can put out (Prince attitude), Kanye want to prove he don't need major radio to push his music (Prince attitude), Kanye want to be known for more than just a entertainer (Prince attitude), and Kanye want to help others but clearly don't know how communicate that without saying something crazy (Jehovah Witness Prince lol ).

To be fair the ONLY gemini to successfully communicate his thoughts very clearly where anybody can understand him was 2Pac. I always wonder what Pac would be doing now if he had that chance to grow and mature more. Died at 25 years old.

Let me say this much, life as colored american male up until 2010, you always celebrated making it to 18 years old. We all never know if we will make it to or pass that age, it's a harsh reality. So it's a blessing but a curse that 2pac made it to 25.

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Reply #53 posted 06/09/18 6:07pm

liljojo

RJOrion said:

Cudi's album is even worse than Ye's... period...its barely hiphop...Cudi is a 1 hit wonder...Day & Night was cool, everything since, is an endless stream of gibberish from that nerd...


We might agree on this one lol lol lol

From top to finish with the songs being labeled wrong I was like

1. Feel the Love confuse
2. Fire neutral
3. 4th Dimension hmmm
4. Freeee (Ghost Town Pt. 2) lol
5. Reborn cool
6. Kids See Ghosts smile sound like miami vice stuff lol
7.Cudi Montage confused err err disbelief

Production wise, the beats was lit in bold or different. I just can't get into Kid Cudi, hated night and day which was annoying. Wiz Khalifa bootleg is Kid Cudi. Idk wtf Kid cudi talking about lol
The Ye album was tight though after track 1

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Reply #54 posted 06/09/18 9:06pm

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liljojo said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Why are you assuming I haven't heard any of his music since 2010? Me not liking his albums since then doesn't mean I haven't listened to them...


Well you can't say the songs the wouldn't leave, violent crimes, no mistakes, bound 2, blood on the leaves are lackluster tracks. Kanye have been trying to prove with the latest albums, like Prince, that radio airplay will control the music he put out. So what he has been doing is using gospel and video game sounds samples with old rock to make out different beats. While trap is going, he's refusing to be another trap artist. And shot out to Prince for sonic sounds and drum machines used heavily in his music as he's the founder of Trap music today. Kanye, 2Pac, Andre 3000, El Debarge, Patti Labelle, Curtis Mayfield, Biggie Smalls, Lauryn Hill and some other gemini music artists always go against what is popular at the prime of their superstardom. Kendrick Lamar will be the next artist to switch up his style, which he is doing. Prince was never 1979-85 again 1986 - 1995 was the weird slave face Prince that made Pussy Control and Sexy Motherfucker (funny songs lol ) The same way Kanye will probably never be 2002 - 2008 Kanye West. Kanye from 2010 - present have been pushing to into dark twisted problems within the industry like Prince did. It's almost like you're watching a hip-hop Prince in the 2000's. Kanye don't want nobody producing for his artists (Prince attitude), Kanye don't want to be censored or told how much music he can put out (Prince attitude), Kanye want to prove he don't need major radio to push his music (Prince attitude), Kanye want to be known for more than just a entertainer (Prince attitude), and Kanye want to help others but clearly don't know how communicate that without saying something crazy (Jehovah Witness Prince lol ).

To be fair the ONLY gemini to successfully communicate his thoughts very clearly where anybody can understand him was 2Pac. I always wonder what Pac would be doing now if he had that chance to grow and mature more. Died at 25 years old.

Let me say this much, life as colored american male up until 2010, you always celebrated making it to 18 years old. We all never know if we will make it to or pass that age, it's a harsh reality. So it's a blessing but a curse that 2pac made it to 25.

I agree. I think this is why I like him and his music. He always pushes the button and challenges me as a listener no matter who the artist he is behind. I am a productions first, lyrics later type of listener and that is why I like him so much more than other artists. You're right, he refuses to give into trap and has as of recent went right back into what made me stop dead in my tracks and wonder who he was behind the scenes before I ever hear his voice. Deep crate digging soul samples on top of gritty synths, bass and guitars. Dude been digging in Numero Groups collections I see from his credits. Dude is a vinyl collector as well paying thousands of dollars to Amobea Records according to Pusha T on The Breakfast CLub. These are the things no one talks about.

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Reply #55 posted 06/09/18 9:12pm

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MotownSubdivision said:

paisleypark4 said:

Okay, so why be Bart. Be yourself. 8 years is a long time to not listen to an artists work and be able to still criticise his work accuratley. His personality is a mess but if you havent heard anything from On Sight to Saint Pablo including all the tracks he produced for in that span of time...how can one trust your musical opinion?

That is from Grafitti Bridge to Crystal Ball in terms of length. Any fan of P who skipped that whole era is not a fan and have no credentials to speak.

Why are you assuming I haven't heard any of his music since 2010? Me not liking his albums since then doesn't mean I haven't listened to them...

Oh my bad I thought U said you havent been listening to him since MBDTF, but you said enthralled *sip tea*. I be sitting on ready.

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Reply #56 posted 06/10/18 6:55am

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liljojo said:



MotownSubdivision said:


Why are you assuming I haven't heard any of his music since 2010? Me not liking his albums since then doesn't mean I haven't listened to them...


Well you can't say the songs the wouldn't leave, violent crimes, no mistakes, bound 2, blood on the leaves are lackluster tracks. Kanye have been trying to prove with the latest albums, like Prince, that radio airplay will control the music he put out. So what he has been doing is using gospel and video game sounds samples with old rock to make out different beats. While trap is going, he's refusing to be another trap artist. And shot out to Prince for sonic sounds and drum machines used heavily in his music as he's the founder of Trap music today. Kanye, 2Pac, Andre 3000, El Debarge, Patti Labelle, Curtis Mayfield, Biggie Smalls, Lauryn Hill and some other gemini music artists always go against what is popular at the prime of their superstardom. Kendrick Lamar will be the next artist to switch up his style, which he is doing. Prince was never 1979-85 again 1986 - 1995 was the weird slave face Prince that made Pussy Control and Sexy Motherfucker (funny songs lol ) The same way Kanye will probably never be 2002 - 2008 Kanye West. Kanye from 2010 - present have been pushing to into dark twisted problems within the industry like Prince did. It's almost like you're watching a hip-hop Prince in the 2000's. Kanye don't want nobody producing for his artists (Prince attitude), Kanye don't want to be censored or told how much music he can put out (Prince attitude), Kanye want to prove he don't need major radio to push his music (Prince attitude), Kanye want to be known for more than just a entertainer (Prince attitude), and Kanye want to help others but clearly don't know how communicate that without saying something crazy (Jehovah Witness Prince lol ).

To be fair the ONLY gemini to successfully communicate his thoughts very clearly where anybody can understand him was 2Pac. I always wonder what Pac would be doing now if he had that chance to grow and mature more. Died at 25 years old.

Let me say this much, life as colored american male up until 2010, you always celebrated making it to 18 years old. We all never know if we will make it to or pass that age, it's a harsh reality. So it's a blessing but a curse that 2pac made it to 25.

I don't like what I don't like. I don't like much of anything Kanye has done starting with Yeezus. That's just how it is.
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Reply #57 posted 06/14/18 11:11am

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Just a tad torn about this one. I'm another one that's totally done with Kanye- tolerated the antics and ignorance for years because the music was so dope. I was really impressed with Pablo- even though I, too, wanted the old Kanye back.

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That said, the Trump support and slavery comments was a "last straw" moment for me and that's been made a little easier by the fact that I'm not really feeling Ye. The beats aren't my style and the lyrics are too self indulgent without any real (in my Raekwon voice) "bust-your-shit-open" bars. Honestly, that last sentence also describes how I feel about Jay-Z's 4:44, another album that never got a second listen.

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HOWEVER, I love the Pusha T album despite having the worst album cover of all time- great beats (courtesy of Kanye) and only one weak 16-bar verse on the whole album (also, courtesy of Kanye). Can't get into the Kid Cudi/Kanye as Cudi's never been my style either but I'm on pins and needles for Nas on tomorrow.

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Yeah, I'm a little conflicted with Kanye right now...

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Reply #58 posted 06/14/18 1:27pm

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He sure did bamboozle folks

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #59 posted 06/14/18 1:47pm

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CoolMF said:

Just a tad torn about this one. I'm another one that's totally done with Kanye- tolerated the antics and ignorance for years because the music was so dope. I was really impressed with Pablo- even though I, too, wanted the old Kanye back.

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That said, the Trump support and slavery comments was a "last straw" moment for me and that's been made a little easier by the fact that I'm not really feeling Ye. The beats aren't my style and the lyrics are too self indulgent without any real (in my Raekwon voice) "bust-your-shit-open" bars. Honestly, that last sentence also describes how I feel about Jay-Z's 4:44, another album that never got a second listen.

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HOWEVER, I love the Pusha T album despite having the worst album cover of all time- great beats (courtesy of Kanye) and only one weak 16-bar verse on the whole album (also, courtesy of Kanye). Can't get into the Kid Cudi/Kanye as Cudi's never been my style either but I'm on pins and needles for Nas on tomorrow.

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Yeah, I'm a little conflicted with Kanye right now...

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Didn't know Nasty NaS was dropping something tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up.

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