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Thread started 05/23/18 9:35am

HAPPYPERSON

Michael is the only artist of the 20 century that dominates the digital age

Michael Jackson is the only solo act from the 80s with 16m monthly listeners on spotify

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His music catalog has been streamed over 2 billion on Spotify

Youtube

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Michael Jackson has garnered over10 billion views on Youtube/Vevo

His albums continue to do well on Billboard 200, Billboard catalogue charts, and Itunes

Michael Jackson beats every 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s artist on YouTube, Shazam, Deezer

YouTube (subscribers as of May 23 2018)

1. Michael Jackson 9,531,193
2. Britney Spears 5,716,476
3. Guns N Roses 4,599,465
4. Queen 4,541,087
5. AC/DC 3,518,652
6. Metallica 3,346,313
7. Nirvana 3,320,986
8. Bon Jovi 3,276,019
9. Whitney Houston 2,948,705
10. Celine Dion 2,267,389
11. Backstreet boys 2,261,355
12. Madonna 1,952,209
13. The Beatles 1,853,890
14. U2 1,282,065
15. ABBA 1,084,121
16. Pink Floyd 1,036,943
17. George Michael 945,447
18. The Rolling Stones 928,140
19. Bee Gees 763,108
20. Phil Collins 689,135
21. Elton John 676,677
22. Santana 664, 977
23. Bruce Springsteen 540,487
24. David Bowie 534,376
25. Elvis Presley 532,089
26. Rod Stewart 479,718
27. Sting 477,985
28. Janet Jackson 360,519
29. Spice Girls 338,112
30. Jimi Hendrix 316,151
31.Stevie Wonder 281,541
32. Lionel Richie 276,313
33. Prince 266,214
34. Take That 263,746
35. Johnny Cash 255,851
36. Frank Sinatra 204,813
37. Bob Dylan 199,091
38. Marvin Gaye 167,376
39. Tina Turner 110,052
40. The Doors 96,765
41. Bob Marley 64,015
Led Zeppelin N/A
Fleetwood Mac N/A
Cher N/A

YouTube (monthly views Apr 24, 2018 - May 21, 2018)

1. Michael Jackson 120,979,697
2. Celine Dion 104,073,811
3. Queen 95,946,932
4. Guns N Roses 83,368,676
5. Metallica 78,812,823
6. AC/DC 69,036,909
7. Britney Spears 59,288,051
8. Bon Jovi 57,557,230
9. ABBA 51,931,701
10. Pink Floyd 49,378,496
11. Backstreet boys 47,052,196
12. Nirvana 46,184,352
13. Madonna 45,264,779
14. Whitney Houston 44,542,359
15. Led Zeppelin 43,422,197
16. Phil Collins 40,048,225
17.Elvis Presley 37,156,182
18. The Beatles 31,780,463
19. Elton John 31,418,972
20. Sting 31,298,162
21. Bee Gees 30,462,299
22. George Michael 28,961,609
23. David Bowie 27,926,602
24. The Rolling Stones 27,805,121
25. Santana 25,982,944
26. Rod Stewart 25,409,970
27. U2 25,022,321
28. Johnny Cash 23,395,909
29. Stevie Wonder 21,446,504
30. Fleetwood Mac 20,800,680
31. The Doors 20,542,639
32. Bob Marley 20,379,199
33. Bruce Springsteen 14,103,942
34. Frank Sinatra 13,620,031
35. Marvin Gaye 13,447,626
36. Spice Girls 13,070,603
37. Prince 11,148,370
38. Lionel Richie 10,659,939
39. Tina Turner 8,500,038
40. Cher 7,183,506
41. Janet Jackson 5,002,724
42. Take That 4,161,181
43. Jimi Hendrix 3,942,533
44. Bob Dylan 3,093,432


Shazam (shazams = identifyings as of May 23 2018)

1. Michael Jackson 30.2 million
2. Britney Spears 25.9 million
3. Queen 23.4 million
4. Madonna 23.1 million
5. U2 22.3 million
6. The Rolling Stones 19.6 million
7. Bon Jovi 17.7 million
8. David Bowie 17 million
9. Elton John 17 million
10. AC/DC 16.1 million
11. The Beatles 15.7 million
12. Led Zeppelin 15.6 million
13. Metallica 15.5 million
14. Stevie Wonder 14.6 million
15. Pink Floyd 13.9 million
16. Guns N Roses 13.8 million
17. Whitney Houston 13.6 million
18. Phil Collins 13.4 million
19. Celine Dion 12.2 million
20. Marvin Gaye 12.1 million
21. Nirvana 11.7 million
22. George Michael 11.6 million
23. Fleetwood Mac 11.2 million
24. Santana 10.9 million
25. Sting 10.8 million
26.Bruce Springsteen 10.4 million
27. Bee Gees 10.2 million
28. Rod Stewart 9.8 million
29. Bob Dylan 9.2 million
30. Elvis Presley 8.8 million
31. Johnny Cash 8.8 million
32. Bob Marley 8.6 million
33. Backstreet boys 8.4 million
34. Lionel Richie 8.4 million
35. Prince 7.9 million
36. The Doors 7.3 million
37. Frank Sinatra 6.5 million
38. ABBA 6.4 million
39. Cher 6.1 million
40 Janet Jackson 5.8 million
41. Tina Turner 5.7 million
42. Take That 5.4 million
43. Spice Girls 3.5 million
44. Jimi Hendrix 2.3 million

Spotify (monthly listeners. May 21 2018)

1. Queen 17,617,107
2. Michael Jackson 16,282,808
3. The Beatles 13,510,504
4. Guns N Roses 12,851,476
5. AC/DC 12,359,009
6. The Rolling Stones 11,698,204
7. Fleetwood Mac 11,175,053
8. Elton John 10,950,999
9. Nirvana 10,479,205
10. Britney Spears 10,325,027
11. Led Zeppelin 10,244,182
12. Metallica 10,027,671
13. Bon Jovi 9,852,099
14. Bob Marley 9,846,519
15. Marvin Gaye 9,325,638
16. Stevie Wonder 9,221,822
17. David Bowie 9,201,764
18. U2 9,140,462
19. Whitney Houston 8,934,161
20. Backstreet Boys 8,658,071
21. Pink Floyd 8,643,977
22. Phil Collins 8,601,761
23. Madonna 7,617,838
24. Elvis Presley 6,992,131
25. Bee Gees 6,796,126
26. Bruce Springsteen 6,486,565
27. Prince 6,468,147
28. Celine Dion 6,155,647
29. George Michael 6,011,583
30. Johnny Cash 5,970,606
31. Jimi Hendrix 5,751,827
32. ABBA 5,667,715
33. Spice Girls 5,491,687
34. Bob Dylan 5,475,961
35. The Doors 5,383,553
36. Frank Sinatra 4,977,385
37. Santana 4,958,318
38. Sting 4,621,396
39. Lionel Richie 4,336,237
40. Rod Stewart 4,266,296
41. Tina Turner 3,381,531
42. Cher 3,254,088
43. Janet Jackson 3,059,371
44. Take That 1,836,103


Deezer (fans)

1. Michael Jackson 8,530,014
2. Nirvana 6,753,747
3. Queen 6,386,444
4. AC/DC 5,665,119
5. Guns N Roses 5,316,332
6. The Beatles 4,836,272
7. U2 4,827,219
8. Metallica 4,381,109
9. The Rolling Stones 4,287,265
10. Pink Floyd 4,013,920
11. Britney Spears 3,808,530
12. Madonna 3,349,258
13 .Bon Jovi 3,157,978
14. Whitney Houston 2,326,916
15. The Doors 2,215,160
16. Elvis Presley 1,915,599
17. Jimi Hendrix 1,710,720
18. Celine Dion 1,710,320
19. Led Zeppelin 1,559,163
20 .ABBA 1,510,355
21. Frank Sinatra 1,447,028
22. Phil Collins 1,308,273
23. Stevie Wonder 1,270,304
24. Bee Gees 1,246,669
25. Johnny Cash 1,196,164
26. Bob Marley 1,196,164
27. Bob Dylan 1,135,779
28. Elton John 1,117,800
29. Marvin Gaye 1,085,106
30 .Sting 1,008,495
31. David Bowie 997,339
32. Janet Jackson 974,735
33. Fleetwood Mac 719,457
34. Bruce Springsteen 646,743
35. Tina Turner 586,665
36. Rod Stewart 582,496
37. Backstreet boys 541,481
38. Prince 500,839
39. Lionel Richie 461,788
40. George Michael 422,458
41. Santana 313,082
42 .Take That 283,536
43. Cher 181,808
44. Spice Girls 47,405

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Reply #1 posted 05/23/18 12:14pm

gandorb

HAPPYPERSON said:

Michael Jackson is the only solo act from the 80s with 16m monthly listeners on spotify


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His music catalog has been streamed over 2 billion on Spotify



Youtube


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Michael Jackson has garnered over10 billion views on Youtube/Vevo



His albums continue to do well on Billboard 200, Billboard catalogue charts, and Itunes

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I think he resonates most of all with young kids and their families in terms of who his new fans are. It seems that once the kids hit middle school, they drop him as quickly as they do their princess dolls.
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Reply #2 posted 05/23/18 12:27pm

MickyDolenz

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they drop him as quickly as they do their princess dolls.

I thought kids are more into superhero action figures now. lol I read an article not that long ago saying some stores didn't stock enough Black Panther toys as they didn't expect the movie to be as popular as it was. Funko Pop seems to be a popular thing too.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #3 posted 05/23/18 11:00pm

LightOfArt

gandorb said:

HAPPYPERSON said:

Michael Jackson is the only solo act from the 80s with 16m monthly listeners on spotify

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His music catalog has been streamed over 2 billion on Spotify

Youtube

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Michael Jackson has garnered over10 billion views on Youtube/Vevo

His albums continue to do well on Billboard 200, Billboard catalogue charts, and Itunes

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I think he resonates most of all with young kids and their families in terms of who his new fans are. It seems that once the kids hit middle school, they drop him as quickly as they do their princess dolls.

lol LOL. I dont think that's the case though. It's true that Michael is huge amoung young people. But take it from someone who frequents MJboards all the time (and someone who doesn't play with toys anymore razz ), it's also the case that a lot of people followed him and stuck by him since J5 debuted. Michael's main goal I think has always been appealing to all races, all age groups, all nationalities. And he managed to do it. It's also something his Estate aspires to do. Just look at that boring MJ Halloween special from last year. Obviously my age group was not their target

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Reply #4 posted 05/24/18 4:27am

MotownSubdivis
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gandorb said:

HAPPYPERSON said:

Michael Jackson is the only solo act from the 80s with 16m monthly listeners on spotify


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His music catalog has been streamed over 2 billion on Spotify



Youtube


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Michael Jackson has garnered over10 billion views on Youtube/Vevo



His albums continue to do well on Billboard 200, Billboard catalogue charts, and Itunes

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I think he resonates most of all with young kids and their families in terms of who his new fans are. It seems that once the kids hit middle school, they drop him as quickly as they do their princess dolls.
That's a bold assumption.

I've seen plenty of evidence contrary.
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Reply #5 posted 05/24/18 5:16am

TheFman

That list is fake.

Where's Boney M? lol

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Reply #6 posted 05/24/18 8:55am

namepeace

I'd agree with the proposition that MJ is a leading 20th century act in the Digital Age.

But you just post images and word-processed lists. Linkage? Source cites?

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Reply #7 posted 05/24/18 4:22pm

Free2BMe

MotownSubdivision said:

gandorb said:


I think he resonates most of all with young kids and their families in terms of who his new fans are. It seems that once the kids hit middle school, they drop him as quickly as they do their princess dolls.
That's a bold assumption.

I've seen plenty of evidence contrary.


I agree with what you said. There is plenty of evidence to the contrary. I was a fan of Michael and the J5 in middle school, college. I am STILL a fan and I am now have grown grand kids. Not only are they fans, My daughters are STILL fans. OST of the people that I know have been from childhood and are still fans. The thing about Michael fans is that we love Michael as much or more than his music. Therefore the statement that once kids hit middle school that they drop Michael quickly is not based on fact. Maybe the person who stated this was speaking of their own experiences, because he/she surely does not speak for every MJ fan or the majority of his fans.
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Reply #8 posted 05/24/18 6:21pm

rdhull

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TheFman said:

That list is fake.

Where's Boney M? lol

lol

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
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Reply #9 posted 05/24/18 9:51pm

gandorb

Free2BMe said:

MotownSubdivision said:
That's a bold assumption. I've seen plenty of evidence contrary.
I agree with what you said. There is plenty of evidence to the contrary. I was a fan of Michael and the J5 in middle school, college. I am STILL a fan and I am now have grown grand kids. Not only are they fans, My daughters are STILL fans. OST of the people that I know have been from childhood and are still fans. The thing about Michael fans is that we love Michael as much or more than his music. Therefore the statement that once kids hit middle school that they drop Michael quickly is not based on fact. Maybe the person who stated this was speaking of their own experiences, because he/she surely does not speak for every MJ fan or the majority of his fans.

I realize that the Jackson 5 and especially MJ originally appealed to all ages and probably still do to a certain extent. My point is that so many parents expose their young children to MJ before they listen to much else in pop music, they often tend to later want to find other music than their parents' influences when they enter adolescence. This has been true for my middle school kids, many of their friends, and many of the families that I work with. I have MJ CDs and they just never play them anymore or stream his music. When I ask middle schoolers who they like in music, they never say MJ like so many of the prek to 4th graders do. I am not implying the Michael's music is juvenile. I am just saying that learning to like MJ music from you parents at an early age, which seems to happen a lot, means that they often don't embrace him in the same way in adolescence as they are trying to find their own identity in contrast to their parents. I know I don't speak for all and I imagine that there are plenty of exceptions. I still think that is some truth in what I have proposed.

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Reply #10 posted 05/26/18 5:48am

206Michelle

A great deal of his music is family- and child-friendly, which I think is great. The family friendly nature of his music is a big reason I gravitated more to MJ than Prince—-I didn’t have to worry about my parents’ reaction to MJ’s music because very little of it was R-rated (I’m thinking primarily of Thriller and Off the Wall).
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Reply #11 posted 05/26/18 9:11pm

dance4me3121

Backstreet boys have more views than Prince? thats messed up

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Reply #12 posted 05/26/18 9:27pm

MickyDolenz

dance4me3121 said:

Backstreet boys have more views than Prince?

Backstreet Boys have never banned their music from Youtube.

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For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #13 posted 05/26/18 11:33pm

dance4me3121

MickyDolenz said:

dance4me3121 said:

Backstreet boys have more views than Prince?

Backstreet Boys have never banned their music from Youtube.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/be22cee8747533cf7db560cc721b73e4/tumblr_p4tma7SZMr1wz0m40o3_500.gif

good point

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Reply #14 posted 05/27/18 12:02pm

ReddBlitz

What!? No Yoko Ono?! Blasphemy!!! lol
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Reply #15 posted 05/27/18 4:30pm

MickyDolenz

dance4me3121 said:

good point

There's also the case that the Backstreet Boys main success happened when Prince got little if any Top 40 airplay. So they're more recent in the mainstream and they've recently released a new song & video. It's like now the oldies stations play songs from the 1980s and 1990s instead of the 1950s & 1960s. I was listening to the classic rock station the other day and I heard REM and they've been playing Bon Jovi, Journey, Foreigner, & Def Leppard for a while now. I guess they're getting away from the Woodstock hippie era.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #16 posted 05/28/18 4:07pm

liljojo

MickyDolenz said:

dance4me3121 said:

good point

There's also the case that the Backstreet Boys main success happened when Prince got little if any Top 40 airplay. So they're more recent in the mainstream and they've recently released a new song & video. It's like now the oldies stations play songs from the 1980s and 1990s instead of the 1950s & 1960s. I was listening to the classic rock station the other day and I heard REM and they've been playing Bon Jovi, Journey, Foreigner, & Def Leppard for a while now. I guess they're getting away from the Woodstock hippie era.


There's nothing to explain besides Prince banned his music off Youtube. Trust me his views would be doubled if not tripled the numbers on there. Just look at the views from 2016 to now.

The 80's and 90's are both respectfully 28-38yrs ago. The 50 and 60's are 58-68 yrs ago.

Lawd damn I feel old now lol lol lol lol lol

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Reply #17 posted 05/28/18 4:30pm

MickyDolenz

liljojo said:

There's nothing to explain besides Prince banned his music off Youtube. Trust me his views would be doubled if not tripled the numbers on there. Just look at the views from 2016 to now.

The difference is that the acts at the upper part of the list like Michael Jackson have lots of fan uploaded videos of slide shows, music videos, entire albums, remixes, TV appearances & interviews they taped on VHS, and so on, not just the VEVO channel. I don't know if they count the J5/Jacksons stuff in his total. Prince uploads are primarily the official channel. It's doubtful if entire Prince albums will be allowed on Youtube without somebody having them taken down.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #18 posted 05/30/18 11:49am

Astasheiks

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liljojo said:

MickyDolenz said:

There's also the case that the Backstreet Boys main success happened when Prince got little if any Top 40 airplay. So they're more recent in the mainstream and they've recently released a new song & video. It's like now the oldies stations play songs from the 1980s and 1990s instead of the 1950s & 1960s. I was listening to the classic rock station the other day and I heard REM and they've been playing Bon Jovi, Journey, Foreigner, & Def Leppard for a while now. I guess they're getting away from the Woodstock hippie era.


There's nothing to explain besides Prince banned his music off Youtube. Trust me his views would be doubled if not tripled the numbers on there. Just look at the views from 2016 to now.

The 80's and 90's are both respectfully 28-38yrs ago. The 50 and 60's are 58-68 yrs ago.

Lawd damn I feel old now lol lol lol lol lol

Seems like a dumb move to me by Prince. Whats your opinion?

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Reply #19 posted 05/30/18 3:04pm

liljojo

Astasheiks said:

liljojo said:


There's nothing to explain besides Prince banned his music off Youtube. Trust me his views would be doubled if not tripled the numbers on there. Just look at the views from 2016 to now.

The 80's and 90's are both respectfully 28-38yrs ago. The 50 and 60's are 58-68 yrs ago.

Lawd damn I feel old now lol lol lol lol lol

Seems like a dumb move to me by Prince. Whats your opinion?



As you know by now I type a lot but I will try to keep it short.

Prince was one of the entertainers to promote music being given to fans online (digital audio) which would cut the middle man (distribution companies) earnings and give the artist free will over how much music they can share with their fans without having company executives tell them no.

With that being said, I do agree that Prince made a terrible decision, whereas other artist didn't really care because it actually re-introduced them to a new audience and most of the entertainers didn't own their masters and wasn't losing money. This is where Prince begin to take harsh criticism, because he did make it seem like WB made him a slave because he didn't completely own all of his masters from 79-84 whereas other artists didn't own nothing. Prince, Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, Madonna, U2, The Eagles, and probably like 5 more artists/groups had great outrageous contracts. All of those artists above really didn't have no room to complain about contracts because at their Prime they was paid 100+ millions. So when P2P sharing sites such as Napster, Gnutella, Freenet, Kazaa, BearShare, and many others came out, some services, like LimeWire, Scour, Grokster, Madster, and eDonkey2000, were brought down due to copyright issues from mostly rock and pop entertainers. Prince was one of the artists threatening companies like YouTube, Vevo, DailyMotion, The Pirate Bay and fans including unofficial fan boards for sharing his material whether it's old, bootlegs, or unreleased music.



If you look at how drastically Prince celebrity star dropped within the 2000's which is the age of social media era, it's because the new generation really don't know who he is outside 80's babies. Michael Jackson didn't care really especially after U2 and other rock bands was pressing charges on children under 13 yrs old with RIAA. Link will be posted below. What this did was turn off some fans and stopped new fans from coming to older artists. I know people here think Prince was relevent within the 2000's before his death in 2016 but Prince star power was dimenishing and on it's last legs as his main audience have become older with families or have passed away. Nobody outisde his loyal fanbase or kids who grew up listening to Prince with their parents was really checking for him because they don't really know him. Prince harmed himself by stopping his products from being online and by going after his own fans boards and pages that praised his work and help bring new fans. Link will be posted below. So Prince not being on digital age records makes sense. Hopefully you see my response before it's snipped.

RIAA Sues 12yrs old Brianna
Prince fans shocked at $2...on lawsuit

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Reply #20 posted 05/31/18 2:58am

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Michael was always about being the biggest artist to the broadest amount of people, fair play. Not everyone wanted what he wanted but he sure got what he was after.

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Reply #21 posted 06/01/18 6:04am

purple05

jaawwnn said:

Michael was always about being the biggest artist to the broadest amount of people, fair play. Not everyone wanted what he wanted but he sure got what he was after.


Don’t fool yourself. That’s what they all want. Otherwise they wouldn’t sign to these labels and go on these huge tours for months on end
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Reply #22 posted 06/01/18 3:38pm

Free2BMe

purple05 said:

jaawwnn said:

Michael was always about being the biggest artist to the broadest amount of people, fair play. Not everyone wanted what he wanted but he sure got what he was after.


Don’t fool yourself. That’s what they all want. Otherwise they wouldn’t sign to these labels and go on these huge tours for months on end


Thank you for saying this. All artist want to be big, Michael was HONEST enough to admit it and I respect that about him.
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Reply #23 posted 06/03/18 8:10am

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purple05 said:

jaawwnn said:

Michael was always about being the biggest artist to the broadest amount of people, fair play. Not everyone wanted what he wanted but he sure got what he was after.

Don’t fool yourself. That’s what they all want. Otherwise they wouldn’t sign to these labels and go on these huge tours for months on end

Well except for the ones that don't. Or the ones that want to be the biggest on their terms only. Don't fool yourself that everyone wants what Michael Jackson got, if anything he's a pretty good warning against it.

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