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Thread started 05/15/18 2:15pm

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Reissue Talk #34

Universal Japan is releasing some r&b titles

https://www.deepdiscount....amp;mod=AP

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Reply #1 posted 05/16/18 8:39am

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bored2 I don't get why labels keep reissuing the same titles over and over again while there are still so many that have been OOP for decades or never had a CD release.

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Reply #2 posted 05/16/18 5:31pm

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i feel ya Kit but im sure it has to do with rights reverting back to the artists. I missed out on Cameo Alligator Woman and DeBarge Rhythm of the Night. So I am getting those asap. BBR has been quiet on the reissue tip lately also

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Reply #3 posted 05/16/18 9:31pm

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getxxxx said:

Universal Japan is releasing some r&b titles



https://www.deepdiscount....amp;mod=AP




Nice! I’m gonna order Cameo’s ‘Alligator Woman’ CD,which wasn’t always easy to find in the past.I’ll grab a few of those Donna Summer titles,too.
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Reply #4 posted 05/17/18 6:57am

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bored2 I don't get why labels keep reissuing the same titles over and over again while there are still so many that have been OOP for decades or never had a CD release.

The reason the same titles are reissued over and over in the Japanese market is because it's a cheap way to grab some cash. All Universal have to do is pull the previous tape transfers (These titles are rarely remasters, if anything is done to the audio at all it's generally a volume increase only) and artwork and churn out a few hundred copies. These are usually snapped up quickly because the previous reissues have been out of print for a few years and are fetching high prices in the secondhand market. You will occasionally see a title that hasn't been on CD before but not often. Too much effort and cost would be involved to locate masters, bake the tapes and pay an engineer to do the transfer when they can simply put out a title already in their digital archives. In the last 10 years a number of reissue labels (FTG, BBR, Soulmusic.com, Expansion etc.) have paid the major labels licensing fees and incurred the cost of digitising their catalogs for them. I notice Sony Japan are starting to reissue these reissues (This has happened with a number of FTG titles) with identical tracklists even down to the bonus tracks. Unfortunately there's not much motivation for them to give us something that hasn't been out yet.

[Edited 5/17/18 7:00am]

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Reply #5 posted 05/17/18 7:00am

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getxxxx said:

i feel ya Kit but im sure it has to do with rights reverting back to the artists. I missed out on Cameo Alligator Woman and DeBarge Rhythm of the Night. So I am getting those asap. BBR has been quiet on the reissue tip lately also

Which rights have reverted back to the artists? Universal have so aggressively acquired labels over the years that I'd be very surprised if they handed anything back to an artist.

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Reply #6 posted 05/17/18 9:29am

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SoulConservator said:

kitbradley said:

bored2 I don't get why labels keep reissuing the same titles over and over again while there are still so many that have been OOP for decades or never had a CD release.

The reason the same titles are reissued over and over in the Japanese market is because it's a cheap way to grab some cash. All Universal have to do is pull the previous tape transfers (These titles are rarely remasters, if anything is done to the audio at all it's generally a volume increase only) and artwork and churn out a few hundred copies. These are usually snapped up quickly because the previous reissues have been out of print for a few years and are fetching high prices in the secondhand market. You will occasionally see a title that hasn't been on CD before but not often. Too much effort and cost would be involved to locate masters, bake the tapes and pay an engineer to do the transfer when they can simply put out a title already in their digital archives. In the last 10 years a number of reissue labels (FTG, BBR, Soulmusic.com, Expansion etc.) have paid the major labels licensing fees and incurred the cost of digitising their catalogs for them. I notice Sony Japan are starting to reissue these reissues (This has happened with a number of FTG titles) with identical tracklists even down to the bonus tracks. Unfortunately there's not much motivation for them to give us something that hasn't been out yet.

[Edited 5/17/18 7:00am]

The only title I noticed in this latest batch that has never properly been released on CD before is Atlantic Starr's "Radiant". It was released as a vinyl rip a few years ago by Vinyl Masterpieces. I hope Universal will use the master tapes for this one and not give us the same piece of garbage that came from Vinyl Masterpieces.

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Reply #7 posted 05/17/18 11:52am

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SoulAlive said:

getxxxx said:

Universal Japan is releasing some r&b titles

https://www.deepdiscount....amp;mod=AP

Nice! I’m gonna order Cameo’s ‘Alligator Woman’ CD,which wasn’t always easy to find in the past.I’ll grab a few of those Donna Summer titles,too.

Soul you can grab that one from Walmart its on there site this version 14.99 f

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Reply #8 posted 05/17/18 2:19pm

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