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Thread started 05/13/18 8:49am

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RBRM, group drama continues

So Ralph Tresvant and Johnny Gill did a slick business move and trademarked the name New Edition and thus prohibit others from using it therefore cauing the Summer tour to be history with all six members and the cast of the biopic.

So now we have Ronni, Bobby, Rick and Mike = RBRM and they are doing a full tour in September.

They also have dates in Atlanta and Detroit before the full tour kicks off.

Meanwhile Ralph Tresvant and Johnny Gill are perfoming in Philadelphia in August.

According to Michael Bivens, who was instrumental in forming the New Edition with Ricky Bell and Bobby Brown in 1978, there were effortys made to get Messrs. Tresvant and Gill to agree to all co-owning the name, but they didn't budge.

IMHO opinion it seems odd that the last two peopl to join the group would sneak and own the name.

Tresvant was originally opposed to Gill joining the group.

This sounds similar to the issues with Shalamar (named owned by Jody Watley); Lakeside (named owned by Mark Woods) and Xscape (at least all four own that name, and when Kandi is not involved they have to use Xscap3, by tje way Kandi is back for dates in Kansas City, Oklahoma City and New Orleans).

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Reply #1 posted 05/13/18 12:44pm

SoulAlive

hmmm interesting

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Reply #2 posted 05/13/18 6:28pm

MickyDolenz

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IMHO opinion it seems odd that the last two people to join the group would sneak and own the name.

Ronnie was the last to join before Johnny Gill was recruited. If Brooke Payne hadn't accepted to be NE's manager, Ronnie probably wouldn't be in the group at all, since he is Brooke's nephew and wasn't from the same neighborhood as the other 4 guys. Here's a photo of the group before Ronnie. The member on the right is Travis Pettus.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/9dc049d5fac442214a9a7d3cce04e582/tumblr_p8jhabhsct1rw606ko1_r1_1280.jpg

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Reply #3 posted 05/13/18 6:33pm

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The trademark registration happened in 2013. They've all worked together since then. Something else must be afoot.
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Reply #4 posted 05/13/18 6:55pm

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Something else must be afoot.

Ralph is currently recording a solo album, but I don't know if that has anything to do with it. Ralph has a radio show and announced a few months ago about recording and hasn't been on the show much at all in the last few weeks to work exclusively on the music. Before he left, Ralph played rough mixes of a few songs he was doing. He hasn't really said anything much about NE lately though. Last year he did say NE was planning to start touring around November or December 2017. Then when that time came Ralph said on the show, they would tour in the spring as they decided it wasn't a good idea financially to do it around Christmas when people were spending their money on presents. What happened after that, don't know. It's been rumored that they want the movie cast to tour with them. But they're mostly actors and I don't see how they would have time to do a tour or what they would be doing onstage. A few of them are professional singers either as recording artists or Broadway stage singers. 2 of the actors who played the young version of the group has been in the Lion King musical before doing the NE biopic.

For 75 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #5 posted 05/13/18 7:03pm

MickyDolenz

Ricky has also released a single recently with his wife, to raise money for a charity. There's 2 music videos, the original version and a Latin pop style dance remix.

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Reply #6 posted 05/14/18 10:06am

JabarR74

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lool said:

Something else must be afoot.

Ralph is currently recording a solo album, but I don't know if that has anything to do with it. Ralph has a radio show and announced a few months ago about recording and hasn't been on the show much at all in the last few weeks to work exclusively on the music. Before he left, Ralph played rough mixes of a few songs he was doing. He hasn't really said anything much about NE lately though. Last year he did say NE was planning to start touring around November or December 2017. Then when that time came Ralph said on the show, they would tour in the spring as they decided it wasn't a good idea financially to do it around Christmas when people were spending their money on presents. What happened after that, don't know. It's been rumored that they want the movie cast to tour with them. But they're mostly actors and I don't see how they would have time to do a tour or what they would be doing onstage. A few of them are professional singers either as recording artists or Broadway stage singers. 2 of the actors who played the young version of the group has been in the Lion King musical before doing the NE biopic.

Nothing's afoot! It's the media that's trying to get all the NE fans upset for absolutely nothing. Ralph is working on his solo album and will tour for it, Johnny is trying to wrap promoting the Game Changer album and (as you already know) Ronnie, Ricky Mike (BBD) and Bobby will it the road this September. As for the NE Story cast:

Caleb McLaughlin (Ricky), Dante Hoagland (Biv), Keith Powers (Ronnie), Luke James (Johnny) and Bryshere (Yazz) Grey (Biv) are all on hit shows now:

Stranger Things

The Last O.G.

Famous In Love

Star

Empire

Algee Smith and Jahi Di'Allo Winston (Ralph) have been doing movies and music

Woody McClain and Tyler Williams (Bobby) is getting to promote the upcoming miniseries, "The Bobby Brown Story"

Not sure what Elijah Kelley (Ricky) and Miles Truitt (Ronnie) are up to though.

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Reply #7 posted 05/14/18 10:32am

lool

DANG BLASTED MEDIA!!! evil
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Reply #8 posted 05/14/18 2:04pm

SoulAlive

whatever the situation is,it's absurd that the group must tour this summer without their two lead singers.There is still alot of hype from the successful TV series last year.Too bad they can't work out their issues and take advantage of that hype and give the fans what they truly deserve: a "real" reunion tour.

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Reply #9 posted 05/15/18 8:48am

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I find it strange that some on here blame the media, lol it Michael Bivens' interview and Ricky Bell's Instagram post that tipped the public off to their being a problem.

Media can't make something out of nothing if there weren't some form of leakers somewhere.

The problem appears to be that Ralph Tresvant and Johnny Gill aren't willing to relinquish their 50/50 of the name and allow Messrs. Bivens, Bell, Brown and DeVoe in the ownership of the name.

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Reply #10 posted 05/15/18 12:10pm

MickyDolenz

Here's what Ricky posted on Instagram:

To our beloved and devoted fans;

I know that some of you may be a bit confused and/or disappointed that “NE”, as you know us, is not going on tour at this time. Trust me when I tell you I’m just as disappointed as you are. Especially after pouring out our hearts to you guys in the form of the “New Edition Story”... we know that you’ve come to expect excellence from us.

Although I’m not able to go into specific details at this very moment, I will say this much - Nobody gets kicked out of NE anymore. Those days are long behind us.

Like all families we have differences that plague us and those indifferences must be dealt with and smoothed out for us to function as the single unit that will allow us to tour as NE again. To be completely honest, I, for one, will rely on God’s infinite wisdom and timing to orchestrate the right time and place for that to happen. But make no mistake about it, when that time comes please know that Ricky Bell will be there front and center ready to rock.

As always, I will be at every meeting, rehearsal and on every conference call (early to be exact). I’m willing to do my part to ensure that the legacy that you, our beautiful fans, have helped us build and sustain for the better part of 30 plus years.

Meanwhile, as we trust God to work all of this out for us, we still must feed our families all while attempting to protect our legacy from being destroyed by the lies and deceit of the enemy.

In closing, I thank you in advance for your undying support and fervent prayers for a resolution. You are indeed our cherished gift from above.

God Bless You!

With Love, RB.

For 75 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #11 posted 05/15/18 12:32pm

SoulAlive

Image result for ronnie bobby ricky and mike instagram message

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Reply #12 posted 05/16/18 5:10pm

MickyDolenz

Ralph was on the radio today where listeners called in to wish him a happy birthday. He said something about working with his family. I know his daughter sings, but don't know if that's who he was talking about.

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Reply #13 posted 05/16/18 6:25pm

MickyDolenz

Ricky Bell: My dear brother Ralph Edward Tresvant... 35 Long years ago we came into this business together as childhood friends and when the time comes we will go out the same.
No matter what challenges we are faced with, I hope and pray that our lifelong brotherhood will stand the test of time and allow us to overcome any and all obstacles placed in our way.
I sincerely Love and Appreciate you Rizz. Happy 50th Birthday my friend! You Are Gold

Ronnie DeVoe: On this day, May 16, 1968, GOD blessed the world with a gift named Ralph Edward Tresvant aka @therealralphtresvant • Rizzo, we’ve come a long way bro! From the streets of Boston, Mass to gracing stages across the world! Together we have etched our place in the history books and that can never be taken away from us. And now you’ve reached another incredible milestone, crossing the 50 yard line! Daaaaamn son, you old den a mug! Lol... On the real, welcome to the club man! Today we celebrate you and wish you nothing but the best in all your endeavors! Enjoy your born day to the fullest, Blake and Sonny style! Yah-Mon! Love you 2 life...!

Michael Bivins: Happy 50th @therealralphtresvant : When we was kids 50th sounded like a grandparents age, we used to make jokes about 50 but you lived to be and become a grandfather #blessings ! The Projects raised you and your voice and stage persona carried you and today let Gods light Shine on you, as many around the world wanna celebrate you and tell their stories of how you impacted their life #CandyGirl #ifitisntlove #Sensitivity.Just remember bro mines is on the 10th not the 11th haaaaa Mr midnight calls Luv you boy and do it big in Cali...Let's Salute RT ! ! !

Jimmy Jam: Thank you @NewEdition for the opportunity to be part of your history. And a special birthday shoutout to @RalphTresvant my favorite male background singer. Love you man and see you soon. Oh, Y’all know who my favorite female is? She shares the same birthday @JanetJackson

For 75 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #14 posted 05/17/18 12:46pm

MickyDolenz

For 75 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #15 posted 05/17/18 12:47pm

MickyDolenz

For 75 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #16 posted 05/17/18 1:25pm

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SoulAlive said:

Image result for ronnie bobby ricky and mike instagram message


OH CMON THAT'S JUST B-B-B-D!

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Reply #17 posted 05/17/18 1:26pm

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MickyDolenz said:

Jimmy Jam: And a special birthday shoutout to @RalphTresvant my favorite male background singer.


Hold up, "background"? spit

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Reply #18 posted 05/17/18 3:46pm

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Cinny said:

SoulAlive said:

Image result for ronnie bobby ricky and mike instagram message


OH CMON THAT'S JUST B-B-B-D!


I swear they were ALL just rappers in the original New Edition. They could do "You Don't Have To Worry" from 1996's Home Again though and it would sound perfect.

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Reply #19 posted 05/18/18 10:18pm

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Poor Ralph. lol

Nobody wants to hear his solo music, not in 1987, barely in 1990 and 1994 compared to the success of his bandmates, and most certainly not in 2018. As a frontman, he’s like Larry Blackmon and Morris Day in that he is just not a solo type of guy and works better in the context of his group. And I can see how he would be frustrated by that and take the action he has taken in legally controlling the NE name. I really do.

I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #20 posted 05/19/18 1:24am

SoulAlive

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Poor Ralph. lol

Nobody wants to hear his solo music, not in 1987, barely in 1990 and 1994 compared to the success of his bandmates, and most certainly not in 2018. As a frontman, he’s like Larry Blackmon and Morris Day in that he is just not a solo type of guy and works better in the context of his group. And I can see how he would be frustrated by that and take the action he has taken in legally controlling the NE name. I really do.

That is so true nod He needs to put his ego aside,reunite with the other guys,and do the damn reunion tour.Why make it so hard?

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Reply #21 posted 05/20/18 9:24pm

SoulAlive

Image result for ronnie bobby ricky and mike instagram message

hmmm come to think of it....they could just do a Bell Biv DeVoe and Bobby Brown tour....instead of giving fans only a partial New Edition tour.

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Reply #22 posted 05/22/18 7:13pm

MickyDolenz

For 75 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #23 posted 05/26/18 6:40am

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Out of curiosity - does anyone remember Another Bad Creation? Where are they these days? Are there any pictures of them *today*?? smile

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Reply #24 posted 05/26/18 8:48am

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Out of curiosity - does anyone remember Another Bad Creation? Where are they these days? Are there any pictures of them *today*?? smile

A few years ago they dropped a song, it's on youtube.

I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #25 posted 05/28/18 1:35pm

MickyDolenz

domainator2010 said:

Out of curiosity - does anyone remember Another Bad Creation? Where are they these days? Are there any pictures of them *today*?? smile

I saw an article about them in Jet magazine awhile back. Don't remember what year it was. My mom might have the issue.

For 75 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #26 posted 05/28/18 6:28pm

MickyDolenz

For 75 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #27 posted 05/28/18 6:56pm

MickyDolenz

one of the ABC members (Chris) has an Instagram and this is a photo posted in May 2017.

Apparently, they also performed in a concert in 2015 with BBD & Boyz II Men.

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Reply #28 posted 06/05/18 4:02pm

MickyDolenz

Bobby Brown Story will premiere on September 4, 2017 on BET. Here's a rehearsal clip with Woody McClain uploaded a few days ago

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Reply #29 posted 06/15/18 3:39pm

MickyDolenz

Ralph is on the radio show today for the 1st time in awhile. I'm not sure, but from what he said his record might come out on Johnny's label or that Johnny has contacts that will help him. Ralph didn't say exactly, just clues from what he said. The recent NE song, This One's For Me And You, was on Johnny's last album. It became a hit on the adult R&B chart in Billboard. A little while back it was announced that Ralph & Johnny are going to do a concert with Keith Sweat sometime this year. This was before the RBRM thing. Johnny's been doing concerts for awhile now, some with Charlie Wilson & Fantasia.

For 75 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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