03/2018



For Mariah Carey, it's always "music first" -- and as far as career strategy is concerned, she'd rather leave that to someone else.

She tells V magazine, "In the music business, if you care about the Grammys and submitting your stuff before a certain time frame, you want a single out in the summer, and then you want to have your record [out] before the Grammys [consideration] deadline, which has changed. Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn." "


"I mean, I have five Grammys(!?). That's cute," she continues.


"There's people that have been doing this half the time that have twice as many [Grammys]. I won two Grammys the first year I started, but after that, [the Grammys] are like, 'We don't go with the people that are selling a lot of records and are popular; we're going the opposite way.'"

"So I got screwed out of certain years," she continues. "I wasn't bitter about it. I was just like, okay, well. I guess I'm not standing here barefoot onstage singing and trying to go a certain way. I'm just me."

The iconic superstar, who says she's "kind of restarting" with "a new album of regular music" she's working on now, says she's taking a "different approach" to her creative process.

"I think it's like a fresh start," she explains. "A lot of people see that whole other image. They see this diva; they see hair, makeup, bod, clothes, whatever it is -- and they're like, oh. They don't think songwriter," Mariah notes.

"But I look at myself as a songwriter first, and then a singer. That's what I love to do the most."


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Well, I'm not getting too excited about this alleged "regular music". If it's the same mindless dribble everyone else is doing, then I'll pass. I want her to get back to recording music befitting of a singer her age with real musicians. Man, I would LOVE to hear her record some jazz standards! Listening to some of the cuts on her last Christmas album, I think a more mature, jazz-oriented sound is the way she should go.

[Edited 3/8/18 8:05am]

She needs to cast off every rapper on the planet and quit chasing trends. I don't know whether she can because she's almost entirely youth-fixated.

why is this a sticky?

luvsexy4all said:

why is this a sticky?

just what i wanted to ask as well

luvsexy4all said:

why is this a sticky?

Because she's Mariah.

I hope regular is not regular rappers all over the place

as long as she doesnt have one hit that i know about or can sing along with, she's not worth a sticky

TheFman said:

as long as she doesnt have one hit that i know about or can sing along with, she's not worth a sticky

Yes let us add one more Jackon sticky just to make sure then

thedoorkeeper said:

Which rappers will be appearing on this album? Can't see her dropping them completely.

My guesses would be Cardi B., Kendrick Lamar or Migos as her first choices for the rent-a-rapper slots on the album.

If the first single says "featuring" its over and she is beyond clueless at this point as to what people want from her.

paisleypark4 said:

I hope regular is not regular rappers all over the place

Even when she leaves the rappers off, she doesn't really start with a chord progression, always some wack kicks and claps.

She sounded great on that Glitter Rick James track (RIP). Wonder what she could make writing songs and making bands play them.

Obviously we know she loves hip hop, and I do too, but can we put the MPC away for one project?

"The Screetch"

Cinny said:

paisleypark4 said:

I hope regular is not regular rappers all over the place

Even when she leaves the rappers off, she doesn't really start with a chord progression, always some wack kicks and claps.

She sounded great on that Glitter Rick James track (RIP). Wonder what she could make writing songs and making bands play them.

Obviously we know she loves hip hop, and I do too, but can we put the MPC away for one project?

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Yes, please.

Cinny said:

paisleypark4 said:

I hope regular is not regular rappers all over the place

Even when she leaves the rappers off, she doesn't really start with a chord progression, always some wack kicks and claps.

She sounded great on that Glitter Rick James track (RIP). Wonder what she could make writing songs and making bands play them.

Obviously we know she loves hip hop, and I do too, but can we put the MPC away for one project?

"All My Life" is outstanding.

Identity said:

She needs to cast off every rapper on the planet and quit chasing trends. I don't know whether she can because she's almost entirely youth-fixated.

This

For the most part most artist/musicians/singers wil have the loyalty and support of the audience/ fans they captured at the begining of their careers. When artist chase hits... the music is always shitty. Yet artist still keep do this mess, good fuckiing grief. Do what you know, stop with all the Diva drama and

created music you belive in.

Cinny said:

paisleypark4 said:

I hope regular is not regular rappers all over the place

Even when she leaves the rappers off, she doesn't really start with a chord progression, always some wack kicks and claps.

She sounded great on that Glitter Rick James track (RIP). Wonder what she could make writing songs and making bands play them.

Obviously we know she loves hip hop, and I do too, but can we put the MPC away for one project?

lastdecember said:

If the first single says "featuring" its over and she is beyond clueless at this point as to what people want from her.

Beyond clueless is a great way to put it. I wonder if anyone really wants anything from her anymore?? I know I don't.

lastdecember said:

If the first single says "featuring" its over and she is beyond clueless at this point as to what people want from her.

Are you sure about that? Because here's the Top 10 for this week and 6 of the songs are collabos. There's even 3 on the adult R&B chart which is the format Mariah is more likely to get played on today.

Hot 100
1 Drake - God's Plan
2 Ed Sheeran - Perfect
3 Bruno Mars & Cardi B - Finesse
4 Post Malone feat. Ty Dolla $ign - Psycho
5 Bebe Rexha & Florida Georgia Line - Meant To Be
6 Camila Cabello feat. Young Thug - Havana
7 BlocBoy JB feat. Drake - Look Alive
8 Zedd, Maren Morris & Grey - The Middle
9 The Weeknd & Kendrick Lamar - Pray For Me
10 Migos - Stir Fry

Adult R&B
1 SZA feat. Travis Scott - Love Galore
2 Daniel Caesar feat. Kali Uchis - Get You
3 Charlie Wilson - Chills
4 Khalid - Location
5 Bruno Mars - That's What I Like
6 Tank - When We
7 dvsn - Mood
8 Bruno Mars & Cardi B - Finesse
9 MAJOR. - Honest
10 En Vogue - Rockett

TD3 said:

Identity said:

She needs to cast off every rapper on the planet and quit chasing trends. I don't know whether she can because she's almost entirely youth-fixated.

This

For the most part most artist/musicians/singers wil have the loyalty and support of the audience/ fans they captured at the begining of their careers. When artist chase hits... the music is always shitty. Yet artist still keep do this mess, good fuckiing grief. Do what you know, stop with all the Diva drama and

created music you belive in.

I know. Same goes for Chante Moore. Extremely disappointed she decided to follow that same path and chase trends instead of setting them.

MickyDolenz said:

lastdecember said:

If the first single says "featuring" its over and she is beyond clueless at this point as to what people want from her.

Are you sure about that? Because here's the Top 10 for this week and 6 of the songs are collabos. There's even 3 on the adult R&B chart which is the format Mariah is more likely to get played on today.

Hot 100
1 Drake - God's Plan
2 Ed Sheeran - Perfect
3 Bruno Mars & Cardi B - Finesse
4 Post Malone feat. Ty Dolla $ign - Psycho
5 Bebe Rexha & Florida Georgia Line - Meant To Be
6 Camila Cabello feat. Young Thug - Havana
7 BlocBoy JB feat. Drake - Look Alive
8 Zedd, Maren Morris & Grey - The Middle
9 The Weeknd & Kendrick Lamar - Pray For Me
10 Migos - Stir Fry

Adult R&B
1 SZA feat. Travis Scott - Love Galore
2 Daniel Caesar feat. Kali Uchis - Get You
3 Charlie Wilson - Chills
4 Khalid - Location
5 Bruno Mars - That's What I Like
6 Tank - When We
7 dvsn - Mood
8 Bruno Mars & Cardi B - Finesse
9 MAJOR. - Honest
10 En Vogue - Rockett

Well her last hit didnt sit well with the charts. Mariah got rep for being crazy now and the stream queens now and days. She need to go back to pop or something different than the same thing for the last 10 years.

I Dont:

paisleypark4 said:

Well her last hit didnt sit well with the charts. Mariah got rep for being crazy now and the stream queens now and days. She need to go back to pop or something different than the same thing for the last 10 years.

The Hot 100 is pop, and it's mostly rap, so Mariah has a better chance in doing what she's been doing for 20 years now. Hip hop is pop music now and has been a long while now. When Michael Bolton sings a hook on a rap tune, Diane Warren works with Common, and Kenny G & Richard Marx have a rap battle, then that's as pop as you can get. Anyway, didn't Mariah say those early records are what Tommy Motolla wanted her to do and that she had to fight the label to do the song with Ol' Dirty Bastard? They didn't want to release it. That AC sound is not really in now anyway as far as the pop chart is concerned, except maybe with Adele. Both Janet Jackson & TLC had adult R&B Top 10 hits with rappers (J. Cole, Snoop Dogg) on their most recent singles.

MickyDolenz said:

paisleypark4 said:

Well her last hit didnt sit well with the charts. Mariah got rep for being crazy now and the stream queens now and days. She need to go back to pop or something different than the same thing for the last 10 years.

The Hot 100 is pop, and it's mostly rap, so Mariah has a better chance in doing what she's been doing for 20 years now. Hip hop is pop music now and has been a long while now. When Michael Bolton sings a hook on a rap tune, Diane Warren works with Common, and Kenny G & Richard Marx have a rap battle, then that's as pop as you can get. Anyway, didn't Mariah say those early records are what Tommy Motolla wanted her to do and that she had to fight the label to do the song with Ol' Dirty Bastard? They didn't want to release it. That AC sound is not really in now anyway as far as the pop chart is concerned, except maybe with Adele. Both Janet Jackson & TLC had adult R&B Top 10 hits with rappers (J. Cole, Snoop Dogg) on their most recent singles.

She has been doing that with her last couple of singles and got nowhere. Like I showed, I Dont just released last year only went to #35 / #89 on the charts even though it was a good song imo. Her last top ten single was "Beautiful" with Miguel which was the closest to pop. #10 on the charts. This is why she should keep that up. "Eternal (Dance Remix)" also went #1 on the charts for her. the hip hop thing is just not in her favor right now

paisleypark4 said:

She has been doing that with her last couple of singles and got nowhere. Like I showed, I Dont just released last year only went to #35 / #89 on the charts even though it was a good song imo. Her last top ten single was "Beautiful" with Miguel which was the closest to pop. #10 on the charts. This is why she should keep that up. "Eternal (Dance Remix)" also went #1 on the charts for her. the hip hop thing is just not in her favor right now

Mariah is over a certain age, so she's unlikely to get Top 40 airplay, no matter what she does. When was the last time Madonna had a big hit? She still releases records too. Older rappers like Snoop Dogg and Big Boi from OutKast don't get hit records and they came out around the same time as mariah. Snoop has a new album with gospel singers and Sting & Shaggy have a new collabo album. They're not getting pop airplay either, and they were popular in the past. Their hit making days are mostly over. Young people today don't want to listen to their parents or grandparents music. Maybe if Mariah gets on a DJ Khaled song, she'll have a chance on getting a pop hit. Like Paul McCartney got on a song with Rihanna & Kanye West. Mariah would have to be the guest singer rather than someone else guesting on her song.

MickyDolenz said:

Maybe if Mariah gets on a DJ Khaled song, she'll have a chance on getting a pop hit.

Oh God no!!!! Don't give her any ideas!

kitbradley said:

Oh God no!!!! Don't give her any ideas!

That's kind of how Charlie Wilson resurrected his career. He sang hooks on rap songs, and collaborated with younger acts like Pharrell, Justin Timberlake, and will.i.am. This made him known to younger audiences as Uncle Charlie. Charlie was also booked on TV shows like Jimmy Fallon & Jimmy Kimmel where they can be seen by a newer, younger audience. Although Charlie doesn't get pop airplay, he has been a mainstay on Adult R&B for years and has been nominated for Grammys. The New Edition miniseries on BET made them known to a new audience and people have uploaded videos of their children singing or dancing to Candy Girl & Can You Stand The Rain. The views of NE's videos on Youtube increased a whole lot after the biopic aired.

Pretty much anything with DJ Khaled becomes a huge hit, so Mariah has a chance doing that if she wants a big pop hit, rather than minor hits. Otherwise she mostly has a chance of Adult R&B hits, and it plays old school hip hop songs. So rap is everywhere. So it doesn't really make much of a difference if Mariah goes back to early sound. The stations she would get played on to get a new hit single, either pop, regular R&B (.ig Chris Brown, Rihanna, Migos), or adult R&B. The playlist has hip hop on it. The local oldies station that plays hits from the 1970s to the 1990s, you'll hear Captain & Tennille, Guns n Roses, and Tone Loc on the same station.