cloveringold85 said:

SoulAlive said:

I totally understand that,but I think a person's health should take priority over everything else.

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Absolutely, but neither Prince or Petty saw it that way -- I think they both greatly neglected their health.

I don't think there's any doubt to this observation...

Mumio said:

PeteSilas said:

i don't think most of us have really noticed that but now that you mention it, so, he took fentanyl that wasn't prescribed huh?

Pete, check out reply 50 in this thread for a link to the autopsy report.....he was taking legal fentanyl and two other forms, one of which is illegal, a designer drug. I think the family made their statement to try to distract people from noticing that because of course it's right there in the report. It seems to have worked for the most part too.

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The drugs in Petty's system:

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1. Fentanyl

2. Oxycodone

3. Temazepam

4. Alprazolam

5. Citalopram

6. Acetylfentanyl

7. Despropionyl fentanyl

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My God!!

Good article:

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Petty was receiving multiple medications that potentiated his risk of overdosing. This dangerous concoction probably didn’t come from a single doctor but from multiple providers. A statewide — ideally nationwide — prescription drug monitoring program could have alerted clinicians about Petty’s list of medications.

https://www.statnews.com/...-overdose/

cloveringold85 said:

Good article:

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Petty was receiving multiple medications that potentiated his risk of overdosing. This dangerous concoction probably didn’t come from a single doctor but from multiple providers. A statewide — ideally nationwide — prescription drug monitoring program could have alerted clinicians about Petty’s list of medications.

https://www.statnews.com/...-overdose/

Nevermind.

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doesn't appear that doctors and celebs are learning very much.

Mumio said:

cloveringold85 said:

Good article:

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Petty was receiving multiple medications that potentiated his risk of overdosing. This dangerous concoction probably didn’t come from a single doctor but from multiple providers. A statewide — ideally nationwide — prescription drug monitoring program could have alerted clinicians about Petty’s list of medications.

https://www.statnews.com/...-overdose/

Nevermind.

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Does it really matter if he was in pain anyway. He had a rack of medical issues he was going to need something for his heart, pain, and lung issues. I have not doubt he got everything accept the fake fentenyl from doctors.

Dr. S prescribed stuff for Prince via Kirk that seemed odd for a doctor treating a patient who is dealing pain pill issues. Some of the drugs he wrote for Prince do not go together.

PeteSilas said:

doesn't appear that doctors and celebs are learning very much.

and you can include all of us in that, probably a lot harder and more painful 2 die than we realize.

purplethunder3121 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Absolutely, but neither Prince or Petty saw it that way -- I think they both greatly neglected their health.

I don't think there's any doubt to this observation...

Yes, there is doubt. We have no idea what medical treatments they had or what advice they were given. Some of you cannot accept that people get old and sick and sometimes nothing can be done.

poppys said:

PeteSilas said:

doesn't appear that doctors and celebs are learning very much.

and you can include all of us in that, probably a lot harder and more painful 2 die than we realize.

i don't hear that tom petty was dying, i hear that he had a broken hip and was in pain. Prince? I still think it's a good chance he was terminal.

PeteSilas said:

doesn't appear that doctors and celebs are learning very much.

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No, it sure doesn't. And, we keep seeing this over and over; another rock star gone, due to illegal opiates. What are these doctors thinking??!! Like the article stated; doctor's need to have a communication open, especially when you have these celebs/rock stars who are "doctor shopping" and have doctors and are getting meds in several states!!

laurarichardson said:

Mumio said:

Nevermind.

[Edited 1/24/18 22:32pm]

Does it really matter if he was in pain anyway. He had a rack of medical issues he was going to need something for his heart, pain, and lung issues. I have not doubt he got everything accept the fake fentenyl from doctors.

Dr. S prescribed stuff for Prince via Kirk that seemed odd for a doctor treating a patient who is dealing pain pill issues. Some of the drugs he wrote for Prince do not go together.

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It is so bizarre, yet there have been no charges.

PeteSilas said:

poppys said:

and you can include all of us in that, probably a lot harder and more painful 2 die than we realize.

i don't hear that tom petty was dying, i hear that he had a broken hip and was in pain. Prince? I still think it's a good chance he was terminal.

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Yes, and what's even more sad about Petty is that this was his "40th Anniversary Tour". He gave us his all, just like Prince did. Although he went sudden, I guess we can take solace in knowing that Petty achieved what he wanted to in life.

PeteSilas said:

poppys said:

and you can include all of us in that, probably a lot harder and more painful 2 die than we realize.

i don't hear that tom petty was dying, i hear that he had a broken hip and was in pain. Prince? I still think it's a good chance he was terminal.

I did not mean that literally, my friend. We all know how the book ends, just not how many pages are in it.

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

Does it really matter if he was in pain anyway. He had a rack of medical issues he was going to need something for his heart, pain, and lung issues. I have not doubt he got everything accept the fake fentenyl from doctors.

Dr. S prescribed stuff for Prince via Kirk that seemed odd for a doctor treating a patient who is dealing pain pill issues. Some of the drugs he wrote for Prince do not go together.

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It is so bizarre, yet there have been no charges.

Let us be patient and see what happens.

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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It is so bizarre, yet there have been no charges.

Let us be patient and see what happens.

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I am a very patient person, but damn!!

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Reminds me of this......

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cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

Let us be patient and see what happens.

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I am a very patient person, but damn!!

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Reminds me of this......

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It took over a year to go after those two pharmacist for digging around in his records.

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I am a very patient person, but damn!!

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Reminds me of this......

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It took over a year to go after those two pharmacist for digging around in his records.

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Heartbreakingly sad all these opiate overdoses. I would be scared to death being addicted to opiates in this day and age. Messing around with Heroin(and other opiates) has always been a dangerous situation but this new deal is absolutely insane. You really don't know what's in pretty much any of it.

It's devastating, so many shortened lives.

How is an overdose accidental?

2freaky4church1 said:

How is an overdose accidental?

that's another way to look at it, doing something self destructive like that isn't altogether an "accident" whoever does it. I knew a guy recently, I always thought he took risky chances, he drowned about 9 mos ago swimming out to the middle of a lake, the first thing i thought when i heard it was that he had a death wish. People sometimes are out of touch with their impulses so they might drive crazy or do stupid things in some unconscious attempt to do away with themselves but I think people are just as often aware. One of Elvis' lovers said Elvis admitted he was self-destructive but felt he couldn't do anything about it.

JoeyC said:

Heartbreakingly sad all these opiate overdoses. I would be scared to death being addicted to opiates in this day and age. Messing around with Heroin(and other opiates) has always been a dangerous situation but this new deal is absolutely insane. You really don't know what's in pretty much any of it.

It's devastating, so many shortened lives.

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Law enforcement is cracking down on these dealers; it's in the news practically every day. They just made a big bust in Florida; but it seems like an endless battle.

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The Coast Guard just seized 721M worth of Cocaine off the San Diego coast. They were tracking these dealers from South America.

2freaky4church1 said:

How is an overdose accidental?

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Simple. A person takes too many pills (mixing too many), or mislabeled pills, such as in Prince's case, thus "accidental".

More drugs surely not. Accidental my ass, another junkie. Ban drugs forever I say, they suck and just kill people. Was anyone pointing a gun at him whenhe was shooting that shit into his arm, mouth or ass.

Adorecream said:

More drugs surely not. Accidental my ass, another junkie. Ban drugs forever I say, they suck and just kill people. Was anyone pointing a gun at him whenhe was shooting that shit into his arm, mouth or ass.

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Pharmaceutical drugs are a necessity for some people with a chronic condition like pain. No one should have to suffer with chronic pain.

Adorecream said:

Accidental my ass, another junkie. Ban drugs forever I say, they suck and just kill people. Was anyone pointing a gun at him when he was shooting that shit into his arm, mouth or ass.

That's a very insensitive thing to say Try to be a little more sympathetic to people with chronic pain.

Adorecream said:

More drugs surely not. Accidental my ass, another junkie. Ban drugs forever I say, they suck and just kill people. Was anyone pointing a gun at him whenhe was shooting that shit into his arm, mouth or ass.

Sounds like you really don't know what CHRONIC pain is.

Adorecream said:

More drugs surely not. Accidental my ass, another junkie. Ban drugs forever I say, they suck and just kill people. Was anyone pointing a gun at him whenhe was shooting that shit into his arm, mouth or ass.

Wow, where to start. Nah, you ain't worth a longer post, you're just insensitive

Adorecream said:

More drugs surely not. Accidental my ass, another junkie. Ban drugs forever I say, they suck and just kill people. Was anyone pointing a gun at him whenhe was shooting that shit into his arm, mouth or ass.

Do you have a reading problem? Tom was going to die he had a broken hip and clogged arteries. Why do you think he was at home with a broken hip. He was not getting any surgery or help. He was done. Think before you type dumb shit.

laurarichardson said:

Adorecream said:

More drugs surely not. Accidental my ass, another junkie. Ban drugs forever I say, they suck and just kill people. Was anyone pointing a gun at him whenhe was shooting that shit into his arm, mouth or ass.

Do you have a reading problem? Tom was going to die he had a broken hip and clogged arteries. Why do you think he was at home with a broken hip. He was not getting any surgery or help. He was done. Think before you type dumb shit.

Fuck no! Guy was a Junkie long before he got hip pain. No pain no gain deal with the strain, make hugs not drugs.

Adorecream said: