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Reply #120 posted 01/17/18 6:31am

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I think talent can be a trap. You serve talent, and it doesn’t look easy. If talent waivers, fails, or leaves, you’re suddenly a fraud. Common sense seems to come under attack, by talent. On madonna’s side, if you’ve got less talent, you stay focused and you work your ass off. Can you imagine being compared to Prince, Michael, and Whitney, and all you’ve got is Madonnas skill set? She was a fox, cooler than they were, and it was fun wondering what she’d say next. She also never got into hard drugs, even running with Warhol’s crew, because she’s a work horse. Maybe it’s being Italian. I’m a fan.

and even though she didn't have the voice, she did have her 2 singers that she had strong chemistry with. And unlike Whitney Houston, she could actually dance. Her drive made her a top notch entertainer. And she delivered year after year. So much so that Prince respected her through her whole career.

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Reply #121 posted 01/17/18 8:21am

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Graycap23 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

nothing wrong with that. Especially since she knows of them because she is into their music.
Also a lot of those current 'hot' producers were more underground, like Jellybean Benitez and some of the people who worked with her on Ray of Light of Confessions on the Dancefloor.
She was always a part of that NYC/Underground/Night Club scene

That isn't "hearing the streets".......That is hiring the producers HEARD in the streets.

There is a difference.

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You're thinking of Michael Jackson, not Madonna. Post-1980s, he was the one who always followed whatever sound was riding high in the charts.

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Reply #122 posted 01/17/18 8:24am

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Music sucks and Madonna is the most suckiest of them all. I guess thats how she made all that money selling out all those arenas for decades.

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Reply #123 posted 01/17/18 8:25am

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BartVanHemelen said:

Graycap23 said:

That isn't "hearing the streets".......That is hiring the producers HEARD in the streets.

There is a difference.

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You're thinking of Michael Jackson, not Madonna. Post-1980s, he was the one who always followed whatever sound was riding high in the charts.

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Reply #124 posted 01/17/18 9:19am

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StrangeButTrue said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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You're thinking of Michael Jackson, not Madonna. Post-1980s, he was the one who always followed whatever sound was riding high in the charts.

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Big MJ fan?

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Reply #125 posted 01/17/18 9:36am

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Nah, he was good and all with J5 and Thriller and OTW etc. but I've seen what happens around here when someone speaks out of place about Saint Mike.

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Reply #126 posted 01/17/18 9:37am

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StrangeButTrue said:

Nah, he was good and all with J5 and Thriller and OTW etc. but I've seen what happens around here when someone speaks out of place about Saint Mike.

lol

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Reply #127 posted 01/17/18 10:56am

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Is that President you-know-who behind Mike in that pic? lol

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Reply #128 posted 01/17/18 11:12am

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StrangeButTrue said:

Is that President you-know-who behind Mike in that pic? lol

hhaahhaha I think it is, there are other photos of him at that event

he was always a socialite envious of celebrities

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Reply #129 posted 01/17/18 1:55pm

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Is that President you-know-who behind Mike in that pic? lol

No, He is not.

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Reply #130 posted 01/17/18 3:45pm

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StrangeButTrue said:

Is that President you-know-who behind Mike in that pic? lol

nope it is security

Related image

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Reply #131 posted 01/17/18 4:40pm

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Ah, very cool to see different perspectives of this moment.
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Reply #132 posted 01/17/18 4:44pm

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imagine if madonna banged trump.....

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Reply #133 posted 01/17/18 5:48pm

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She was into older dudes when he was younger and younger dudes as he got older. And vice versa probably lol she was probably more thirsty than he was, at least in media/fantasy. Honestly I can't fathom a winner in notches on bedposts between the two of them.
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Reply #134 posted 01/22/18 5:46pm

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Madonna plays the aucostic and electric guitar, as well as the drums. She has written and produce most of her hits. She is also a trained dancer and created a multi billion dollar empire, but yet she has no talent? The least talent out everyone you mentioned would be Whitney, since she only sings, I would also put Madonna above Michael in talent for the simple fact that she plays sereval instruments. Anyone who plays an instrument is more talented than someone who sings, dance, write.

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Reply #135 posted 01/23/18 9:26am

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Madonna plays the aucostic and electric guitar, as well as the drums. She has written and produce most of her hits. She is also a trained dancer and created a multi billion dollar empire, but yet she has no talent? The least talent out everyone you mentioned would be Whitney, since she only sings, I would also put Madonna above Michael in talent for the simple fact that she plays sereval instruments. Anyone who plays an instrument is more talented than someone who sings, dance, write.


Hold your horses.

"Least talented" is relative to some of the greatest talents in the 20th century. That doesn't mean Madonna is the least talented artist ever. Most artists and many HOF'ers couldn't stack up to the others Madge is compared to in this thread.


"Talent" is not quantitative. Just because Madonna supposedly can check off a few more boxes than MJ in terms of playing instruments doesn't mean she's more talented. Michael Jackson's talents as a singer, dancer and writer surpass Madonna's as a singer, dancer, writer and instrumentalist.

I mean, really, when's the last time you heard anyone say, "wow, Madge really tore that guitar solo up at MSG the other night?" or marvel at her acoustic guitar or drum playing on her tracks?

Surely you don't believe that last sentence. SURELY.

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Reply #136 posted 01/23/18 10:37am

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StrangeButTrue said:

She was into older dudes when he was younger and younger dudes as he got older. And vice versa probably lol she was probably more thirsty than he was, at least in media/fantasy. Honestly I can't fathom a winner in notches on bedposts between the two of them.

puritan chastity ? ... who cares whose had more sex than who?

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Reply #137 posted 01/23/18 11:34am

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OF4S - Could care less, more pure curiosity as seriously these are the two most powerful human exponents of wild sex without abandon that have basically never been stifled. Trump has talked in vivid detail about banging anything that walks and getting a trophy for it in the media since the 80s as has Madonna. She literally wrote a book called Sex. Similar to if Michael Phelps could beat a shark in a race or if a gazelle is faster than a puma.

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Reply #138 posted 01/23/18 11:35am

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she always knew who to bang to further he career choices.

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Reply #139 posted 01/23/18 11:35am

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namepeace said:

lita54 said:

Madonna plays the aucostic and electric guitar, as well as the drums. She has written and produce most of her hits. She is also a trained dancer and created a multi billion dollar empire, but yet she has no talent? The least talent out everyone you mentioned would be Whitney, since she only sings, I would also put Madonna above Michael in talent for the simple fact that she plays sereval instruments. Anyone who plays an instrument is more talented than someone who sings, dance, write.


Hold your horses.

"Least talented" is relative to some of the greatest talents in the 20th century. That doesn't mean Madonna is the least talented artist ever. Most artists and many HOF'ers couldn't stack up to the others Madge is compared to in this thread.


"Talent" is not quantitative. Just because Madonna supposedly can check off a few more boxes than MJ in terms of playing instruments doesn't mean she's more talented. Michael Jackson's talents as a singer, dancer and writer surpass Madonna's as a singer, dancer, writer and instrumentalist.

I mean, really, when's the last time you heard anyone say, "wow, Madge really tore that guitar solo up at MSG the other night?" or marvel at her acoustic guitar or drum playing on her tracks?

Surely you don't believe that last sentence. SURELY.

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You don't hear them say anything about MJ shows because he's been dead for almost a decade.

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I absolutely loved her last tour, it was an amazing night.

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Reply #140 posted 01/23/18 11:48am

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StrangeButTrue said:

OF4S - Could care less, more pure curiosity as seriously these are the two most powerful human exponents of wild sex without abandon that have basically never been stifled. Trump has talked in vivid detail about banging anything that walks and getting a trophy for it in the media since the 80s as has Madonna. She literally wrote a book called Sex. Similar to if Michael Phelps could beat a shark in a race or if a gazelle is faster than a puma.

As I said, who cares how much sex people have. Prince also banged his way through life... so what?

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But why do you assumed she had to have sex to be where she is? Trump didn't

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So she put together a book called SEX exploring all the different faucets of sexual expression... and?

That doesn't mean she had sex with a bunch of people in order to do the book

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No of this has anything to do with the topic

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Reply #141 posted 01/23/18 11:49am

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luvsexy4all said:

she always knew who to bang to further he career choices.

who did she bang?

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Reply #142 posted 01/23/18 12:14pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

StrangeButTrue said:

OF4S - Could care less, more pure curiosity as seriously these are the two most powerful human exponents of wild sex without abandon that have basically never been stifled. Trump has talked in vivid detail about banging anything that walks and getting a trophy for it in the media since the 80s as has Madonna. She literally wrote a book called Sex. Similar to if Michael Phelps could beat a shark in a race or if a gazelle is faster than a puma.

As I said, who cares how much sex people have. Prince also banged his way through life... so what?

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But why do you assumed she had to have sex to be where she is? Trump didn't

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So she put together a book called SEX exploring all the different faucets of sexual expression... and?

That doesn't mean she had sex with a bunch of people in order to do the book

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No of this has anything to do with the topic

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K nevermind.

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Reply #143 posted 01/23/18 2:25pm

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StrangeButTrue said:

namepeace said:


Hold your horses.

"Least talented" is relative to some of the greatest talents in the 20th century. That doesn't mean Madonna is the least talented artist ever. Most artists and many HOF'ers couldn't stack up to the others Madge is compared to in this thread.


"Talent" is not quantitative. Just because Madonna supposedly can check off a few more boxes than MJ in terms of playing instruments doesn't mean she's more talented. Michael Jackson's talents as a singer, dancer and writer surpass Madonna's as a singer, dancer, writer and instrumentalist.

I mean, really, when's the last time you heard anyone say, "wow, Madge really tore that guitar solo up at MSG the other night?" or marvel at her acoustic guitar or drum playing on her tracks?

Surely you don't believe that last sentence. SURELY.

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You don't hear them say anything about MJ shows because he's been dead for almost a decade.

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I absolutely loved her last tour, it was an amazing night.


Did you just spike the football on MJ's grave while misreading the post?

reading reading reading

Yes. You did.

(Wow.)

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Reply #144 posted 01/23/18 3:41pm

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She did a lovely guitar bit during Burning Up as well as La Vie En Rose on ukelele. And an acoustic portion featuring a beautiful Dress You Up. MJ had that mean tambourine rap back in the 60s...
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People talk about MJs live show persona but didn't he take like 20 years off before That Was It? a hits album, a remix album, an embarrassing Rodney Jerkins album and then, ya know, that was it.
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Reply #145 posted 01/23/18 5:51pm

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StrangeButTrue said:

She did a lovely guitar bit during Burning Up as well as La Vie En Rose on ukelele. And an acoustic portion featuring a beautiful Dress You Up. MJ had that mean tambourine rap back in the 60s... . People talk about MJs live show persona but didn't he take like 20 years off before That Was It? a hits album, a remix album, an embarrassing Rodney Jerkins album and then, ya know, that was it. . [Edited 1/23/18 15:46pm]


Nope, History tour ended in 1997.

Madonna has lasted due to her purpose on this earth. Once her time is up, then she will like all of us leave this body and meet up with her love ones on the other side. Prince, Whitney, and MJ all did what they was destine to do and their time on earth came to a end.

That's why it is very important to mature into a person that appreciate the seconds of love ones being here and time on earth because when it's time to go no medicine or prayers will bring you back as proven through history.

I'm going to get into colorism in the USA, but I will say everyone will have to agree that Prince had to work harder than all the WB partners. Motown had to work harder than the beatles, who by the way admitted that they stole from the motown sound because nobody was playing that sound in the UK. Michael Jackson had to work harder than his white counterparts. Now Madonna too as a white woman in a America had to fight pass nasty hollywood men to make it.

The hate each person shares on here was taught to you through the media, emotions and feelings, or the circle of people in your life. But lets try to ease off the calling madonna a whore, MJ and whitney druggies, and Prince a male whore. Give them credit for not giving up and fighting through it all. Thanks to social media though, everyone is living their life out and about now and the depression and suicide rates are spiking up like crazy by double digits. So lets give the same grace and mercy we want for our mistakes and kind words we want said to us in our darkest moments.

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Reply #146 posted 01/23/18 6:23pm

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StrangeButTrue said:

She did a lovely guitar bit during Burning Up as well as La Vie En Rose on ukelele. And an acoustic portion featuring a beautiful Dress You Up. MJ had that mean tambourine rap back in the 60s... . People talk about MJs live show persona but didn't he take like 20 years off before That Was It? a hits album, a remix album, an embarrassing Rodney Jerkins album and then, ya know, that was it. . [Edited 1/23/18 15:46pm]

20 years?

Dangerous

HIStory

Blood On The Dancefloor

Invincible

2 tours and several performances

I know you were being sarcastic but c'mon....

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Reply #147 posted 01/24/18 5:33am

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liljojo said:

StrangeButTrue said:

She did a lovely guitar bit during Burning Up as well as La Vie En Rose on ukelele. And an acoustic portion featuring a beautiful Dress You Up. MJ had that mean tambourine rap back in the 60s... . People talk about MJs live show persona but didn't he take like 20 years off before That Was It? a hits album, a remix album, an embarrassing Rodney Jerkins album and then, ya know, that was it. . [Edited 1/23/18 15:46pm]


Nope, History tour ended in 1997.

Madonna has lasted due to her purpose on this earth. Once her time is up, then she will like all of us leave this body and meet up with her love ones on the other side. Prince, Whitney, and MJ all did what they was destine to do and their time on earth came to a end.

That's why it is very important to mature into a person that appreciate the seconds of love ones being here and time on earth because when it's time to go no medicine or prayers will bring you back as proven through history.

I'm going to get into colorism in the USA, but I will say everyone will have to agree that Prince had to work harder than all the WB partners. Motown had to work harder than the beatles, who by the way admitted that they stole from the motown sound because nobody was playing that sound in the UK. Michael Jackson had to work harder than his white counterparts. Now Madonna too as a white woman in a America had to fight pass nasty hollywood men to make it.

The hate each person shares on here was taught to you through the media, emotions and feelings, or the circle of people in your life. But lets try to ease off the calling madonna a whore, MJ and whitney druggies, and Prince a male whore. Give them credit for not giving up and fighting through it all. Thanks to social media though, everyone is living their life out and about now and the depression and suicide rates are spiking up like crazy by double digits. So lets give the same grace and mercy we want for our mistakes and kind words we want said to us in our darkest moments.

Nice post, but where was Prince called a male whore?

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