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Reply #60 posted 12/07/17 2:16pm

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214 said:

You should take a listen it's a great song. It was released officially in 2004 The Ultimate Collection.

Didn't get that. Figured it was just another compilation of the same songs again smile

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Reply #61 posted 12/07/17 3:21pm

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214 said:

You should take a listen it's a great song. It was released officially in 2004 The Ultimate Collection.

Didn't get that. Figured it was just another compilation of the same songs again smile

Some of them are as you might expect from the title, but it includes some unreleased stuff like Monkey Business, We've Had Enough, Fall Again, Beautiful Girl and Cheater.

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Reply #62 posted 12/09/17 9:04am

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What do you think about Monkey Bussiness, to me is a masterpiece lyricallly and musically. It should have been on Dangerous.

I agree. That is one of many songs that should have been included, imo.

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Reply #63 posted 12/09/17 5:08pm

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The tracks off ultimate collection are SO underrated!!! Some of them even outdo invincible tracks and have stronger melodies and harmonies. Glad to see this gem discussed

Monkey business is a masterpiece but also sounds to me like a sequel to george Michael's monkey produced by no other than jam & Lewis smile ya dig?

Those vocals are something else!!!! But I can see why it didn't make dangerous, it doesn't fit the flow of the album. Give in to me was grittier and gave the album a climax monkey may have not been able to though they make good distant cousins
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Reply #64 posted 12/10/17 6:43am

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The first album I listened to where I didn’t feel there was any filler. My favorite album of all time.

The only critique is it’s missing a solid R&B ballad. Would have loved a smooth R&B track like what was featured on Invincible. Even Someone Put Your Hand Out would’ve sufficed, though I’d prefer something a tad less soft... Something like Joy would have been perfect.

But regardless, it’s a masterpiece. It’s aged so well.
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Reply #65 posted 12/10/17 1:16pm

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The first album I listened to where I didn’t feel there was any filler. My favorite album of all time. The only critique is it’s missing a solid R&B ballad. Would have loved a smooth R&B track like what was featured on Invincible. Even Someone Put Your Hand Out would’ve sufficed, though I’d prefer something a tad less soft... Something like Joy would have been perfect. But regardless, it’s a masterpiece. It’s aged so well.

If the original version is marvelous I could only imagine how wonderful the Michael Jackson version is.

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Reply #66 posted 12/10/17 1:59pm

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This would be my perfect Dangerous album:

1. Jam

2. Why You Wanna Trip On Me

3. In The Closet

4. Can't Let Her Get Away

5. Remember The Time

6. Someone Pút Your Hand Out

7. Monkey Business

8. Heal The World

9. Do You Know Where Your Children Are

10. Black Or White

11. Who Is It

12. Give In To Me

13. Will You Be There

14. Keep The Faith

15. Gone Too Soon

16. Dangerous

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Reply #67 posted 12/10/17 2:46pm

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The songs that didn’t make it:

Blood On The Dancefloor

Ghosts

Someone Put Your Hand Out

They Don’t Care About Us

Superfly Sister

Slave To The Rhythm

Best of Joy

For All Time

What About Us/Planet Earth (Earth Song)

Call It Off

Throwing Your Life Away

Serious Effect

Trust About Youth

If You Don’t Love Me

Joy

Verdict

Pressure

Ghost of Another Lover

Fever

Man In Black

To Satisfy You

Work That Body

Bottle of Smoke

Deep In The Night

Homeless Bound

All The Truth

Don’t Believe It

Seven Digits

What is known about the songs from this list that are not circulating online?

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Reply #68 posted 12/10/17 2:49pm

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Superstition said:

The first album I listened to where I didn’t feel there was any filler. My favorite album of all time. The only critique is it’s missing a solid R&B ballad. Would have loved a smooth R&B track like what was featured on Invincible. Even Someone Put Your Hand Out would’ve sufficed, though I’d prefer something a tad less soft... Something like Joy would have been perfect. But regardless, it’s a masterpiece. It’s aged so well.

It truly has! I've heard in the past people compare this to off the wall and thriller era music (rolling stone in particular) like an updated one, but I think it stands on a class of it's own. I really feel the music and sounds and engineering on this album influenced so many r&b/pop artists since and doesn't really get his due.

You're right there was no smooth r&b love jam on dangerous...I wonder if he intentionally did that though, or simply felt inserting one into the tracklist would distort the vision he had for the album (citing Nutcracker ballet in ebony interview and wanting it to be like a musical)...and chose to deliver someone put your hand out as a launch.

You know, he gets credit for being an artist and entertainer, I feel he seldom gets credit for his clever strategizing (selectively) when it came to marketing himself.

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Reply #69 posted 12/13/17 8:27am

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Fascinating to read all the comments here about unreleased MJ tracks and 'fan made' albums.

I'd never really considered MJ in these regards before, mostly because I stopped following him once his life outside of music went sideways. Is there much out there though? Has any of it been released? I've got the anniversary editions of Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad and Dangerous as I know they had a couple of unreleased tracks ... I just never put MJ in the same bracket as Prince in terms of unreleased music.

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Reply #70 posted 12/13/17 2:46pm

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DaveT said:

Fascinating to read all the comments here about unreleased MJ tracks and 'fan made' albums.

I'd never really considered MJ in these regards before, mostly because I stopped following him once his life outside of music went sideways. Is there much out there though? Has any of it been released? I've got the anniversary editions of Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad and Dangerous as I know they had a couple of unreleased tracks ... I just never put MJ in the same bracket as Prince in terms of unreleased music.

He certainly is not, as far as we know. However, there are some couple of songs that have leaked through the years.

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Reply #71 posted 12/15/17 1:42am

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DaveT said:

Fascinating to read all the comments here about unreleased MJ tracks and 'fan made' albums.

I'd never really considered MJ in these regards before, mostly because I stopped following him once his life outside of music went sideways. Is there much out there though? Has any of it been released? I've got the anniversary editions of Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad and Dangerous as I know they had a couple of unreleased tracks ... I just never put MJ in the same bracket as Prince in terms of unreleased music.

He worked extensively over the years when he was out of the spotlight (He worked with his own team on over 60 songs or so between 1983 to 1987, for example). There's material that I don't even think the estate has access to. Not everything is complete though. I don't think they've even got in contact with some of his collaborators except to ask them to identify tapes neutral

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Reply #72 posted 12/15/17 5:43am

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bboy87 said:

DaveT said:

Fascinating to read all the comments here about unreleased MJ tracks and 'fan made' albums.

I'd never really considered MJ in these regards before, mostly because I stopped following him once his life outside of music went sideways. Is there much out there though? Has any of it been released? I've got the anniversary editions of Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad and Dangerous as I know they had a couple of unreleased tracks ... I just never put MJ in the same bracket as Prince in terms of unreleased music.

He worked extensively over the years when he was out of the spotlight (He worked with his own team on over 60 songs or so between 1983 to 1987, for example). There's material that I don't even think the estate has access to. Not everything is complete though. I don't think they've even got in contact with some of his collaborators except to ask them to identify tapes neutral

He worked a lot with John Barnes and Bryan Loren in the 80's.

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Reply #73 posted 12/15/17 8:14am

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DaveT said:

Fascinating to read all the comments here about unreleased MJ tracks and 'fan made' albums.

I'd never really considered MJ in these regards before, mostly because I stopped following him once his life outside of music went sideways. Is there much out there though? Has any of it been released? I've got the anniversary editions of Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad and Dangerous as I know they had a couple of unreleased tracks ... I just never put MJ in the same bracket as Prince in terms of unreleased music.



Prince has much more completed work. Most of MJs work is incomplete. They both were very hard works according to Jimmy, Prince was more prolific
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Reply #74 posted 12/15/17 12:35pm

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bboy87 said:

He worked extensively over the years when he was out of the spotlight (He worked with his own team on over 60 songs or so between 1983 to 1987, for example). There's material that I don't even think the estate has access to. Not everything is complete though. I don't think they've even got in contact with some of his collaborators except to ask them to identify tapes neutral

He worked a lot with John Barnes and Bryan Loren in the 80's.

Yeah, that's why I mentioned the 83-87 part years because they worked on a lot of stuff. When Michael was on the Victory tour, he and Barnes would set up shop at the hotel suite or a studio in the area and would record there. Stuff like Dirty Diana, Loving You, Alright Now, Centipede, We Are Here To Change The World, Another Part of Me, I'm So Blue, and Al Capone came to be

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