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Thread started 10/09/17 8:23pm

alphastreet

Is michael jackson "annie" in smooth criminal?

I think mj was an empath who felt like a victim and likened himself to annie, and the perpetrator in the song was a doctor. The irony.

See how easy it is to troll? #ireallymissyoumuch cool

Let's get serious.

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Reply #1 posted 10/09/17 8:43pm

MickyDolenz

I think Annie is what they call a CPR dummy.

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Reply #2 posted 10/09/17 8:58pm

Identity

🈁 Fools say to themselves, "There is no God."
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Reply #3 posted 10/10/17 1:34am

SoulAlive

hmmm

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Reply #4 posted 10/10/17 9:16am

TrivialPursuit

MickyDolenz said:

I think Annie is what they call a CPR dummy.


Yep. It reminds me of a nutty woman on Dr. Phil last year. Her name was Annie, and she believed she was the muse for "Smooth Criminal". She had someone break into her house, spy on her, leave footprints in talcum powder she'd put on the floor, etc etc. She was on a legal crusade to get royalties from the song. She goes through almost an hour of laying out how the things in the song are exactly what happened to her. Her daughter was on there saying her mother just needed to get a job, because they were broke & homeless and there was a younger daughter at home suffering.

Eventually, Dr. Phil played his ace. He had engineer Matt Forger there to talk about how there was a CPR dummy in or around the studio. And when you give CPR, you ask "are you okay"? And of course, the dummy's name is Annie. It was the simplest of things to inspire a song. This woman eventually changed her tune saying it was a coincidence, but everyone else was like "Not whatcha said 20 minutes ago!"

It's like when "Billie Jean" was out and a woman tried to use MJ, saying he was the father of one of her twin babies.

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Reply #5 posted 10/10/17 10:03am

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We need another one debating if MJ is "Susie" in Blood On The Dancefloor or "Little Susie". Then another one on like the Rabbit from Speed Demon/Moonwalker. Is MJ really a Claymation rabbit?

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Reply #6 posted 10/10/17 10:54am

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What?! He's not Dirty Diana?! lol

You can walk a mile in my shoes. But you can't dance a step in my feet.
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Reply #7 posted 10/10/17 11:40am

MickyDolenz

purplethunder3121 said:

What?! He's not Dirty Diana?! lol

Is that why he's wearing a Playboy shirt? lol

https://78.media.tumblr.com/8336bbf9ed508a90e08b836fddee4037/tumblr_ox0m4rF2CO1rw606ko3_400.jpg

https://78.media.tumblr.com/a158fdca4dd6fbf1e0f548d5d1a28c80/tumblr_ox0m4rF2CO1rw606ko2_540.jpg

https://78.media.tumblr.com/a4e69579210e4d617c7b25bf8eafc359/tumblr_ox0m4rF2CO1rw606ko1_1280.jpg

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Reply #8 posted 10/10/17 11:48am

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lol

MickyDolenz said:

purplethunder3121 said:

What?! He's not Dirty Diana?! lol

Is that why he's wearing a Playboy shirt? lol

https://78.media.tumblr.com/8336bbf9ed508a90e08b836fddee4037/tumblr_ox0m4rF2CO1rw606ko3_400.jpg

https://78.media.tumblr.com/a158fdca4dd6fbf1e0f548d5d1a28c80/tumblr_ox0m4rF2CO1rw606ko2_540.jpg

https://78.media.tumblr.com/a4e69579210e4d617c7b25bf8eafc359/tumblr_ox0m4rF2CO1rw606ko1_1280.jpg

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Reply #9 posted 10/10/17 12:16pm

MickyDolenz

purplethunder3121 said:

lol

Remember in American Dream where Mike & Marlon hid under the bed and laughing when the older brothers brought girls in their room

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Reply #10 posted 10/10/17 2:02pm

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No, through out the the song he says She
And her.

As he came into the window
It was the sound of a crescendo
He came into her apartment
He left the bloodstains on the carpet
She ran underneath the table
He could see she was unable
So she ran into the bedroom
She was struck down, it was her doom
Annie, are you ok?
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Reply #11 posted 10/10/17 4:55pm

alphastreet

TrivialPursuit said:

MickyDolenz said:

I think Annie is what they call a CPR dummy.


Yep. It reminds me of a nutty woman on Dr. Phil last year. Her name was Annie, and she believed she was the muse for "Smooth Criminal". She had someone break into her house, spy on her, leave footprints in talcum powder she'd put on the floor, etc etc. She was on a legal crusade to get royalties from the song. She goes through almost an hour of laying out how the things in the song are exactly what happened to her. Her daughter was on there saying her mother just needed to get a job, because they were broke & homeless and there was a younger daughter at home suffering.

Eventually, Dr. Phil played his ace. He had engineer Matt Forger there to talk about how there was a CPR dummy in or around the studio. And when you give CPR, you ask "are you okay"? And of course, the dummy's name is Annie. It was the simplest of things to inspire a song. This woman eventually changed her tune saying it was a coincidence, but everyone else was like "Not whatcha said 20 minutes ago!"

It's like when "Billie Jean" was out and a woman tried to use MJ, saying he was the father of one of her twin babies.

I guess that incident inspired the spam that became this post....but it is about paranoia and based off his heartbeat, and I'm sure he was very scared after Thriller and channeled it into this song and just gave it another character outside of himself. Doesn't sound that different from what prince did with female alter ego's, but in a different light, you know?

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Reply #12 posted 10/10/17 4:57pm

alphastreet

daingermouz2020 said:

No, through out the the song he says She And her. As he came into the window It was the sound of a crescendo He came into her apartment He left the bloodstains on the carpet She ran underneath the table He could see she was unable So she ran into the bedroom She was struck down, it was her doom Annie, are you ok?

yes I'm aware, I can see him grounding his paranoia and fear into a character outside himself, it's what artists do sometimes.

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Reply #13 posted 10/10/17 5:11pm

alphastreet

StrangeButTrue said:

We need another one debating if MJ is "Susie" in Blood On The Dancefloor or "Little Susie". Then another one on like the Rabbit from Speed Demon/Moonwalker. Is MJ really a Claymation rabbit?

of course mike was the silly rabbit!!! wink

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Reply #14 posted 10/10/17 5:18pm

alphastreet

or perhaps, he was letting us know.....he's annie christian!!! biggrin

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Reply #15 posted 10/10/17 5:28pm

ThatWhiteDude

alphastreet said:

or perhaps, he was letting us know.....he's annie christian!!! biggrin

falloff falloff

Dig if you will the picture, of me and Marvin Gaye with the kids.
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Reply #16 posted 10/10/17 5:30pm

alphastreet

ThatWhiteDude said:

alphastreet said:

or perhaps, he was letting us know.....he's annie christian!!! biggrin

falloff falloff

he was warning prince annie is for real lol it was his way of saying "prince, I'm going to steal your studded pants on my bad tour soon, just like the catalogue, shamoooon....but i love you more, prince you're amazing, this one's for you" lol


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Reply #17 posted 10/10/17 5:32pm

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alphastreet said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

falloff falloff

he was warning prince annie is for real lol it was his way of saying "prince, I'm going to steal your studded pants on my bad soon, just like the catalogue, shamoooon" lol

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Definitely biggrin

Dig if you will the picture, of me and Marvin Gaye with the kids.
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Reply #18 posted 10/10/17 5:33pm

alphastreet

But I love me some mj, I'm just living my vicarious dream of writing mj-prince alternate universe skits lol

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Reply #19 posted 10/10/17 5:40pm

alphastreet

MickyDolenz said:

purplethunder3121 said:

What?! He's not Dirty Diana?! lol

Is that why he's wearing a Playboy shirt? lol

https://78.media.tumblr.com/8336bbf9ed508a90e08b836fddee4037/tumblr_ox0m4rF2CO1rw606ko3_400.jpg

https://78.media.tumblr.com/a158fdca4dd6fbf1e0f548d5d1a28c80/tumblr_ox0m4rF2CO1rw606ko2_540.jpg

https://78.media.tumblr.com/a4e69579210e4d617c7b25bf8eafc359/tumblr_ox0m4rF2CO1rw606ko1_1280.jpg

That playboy shirt pic deserves a caption

I'm michael jackson, and I'm gonna marry diana ross when I grow up!!! cool

but michael, she's too old

that's ignorant

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Reply #20 posted 10/10/17 5:55pm

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alphastreet said:

But I love me some mj, I'm just living my vicarious dream of writing mj-prince alternate universe skits lol

You forgot the old rumor about Janet Jackson actually being MJ in disguise... lol

You can walk a mile in my shoes. But you can't dance a step in my feet.
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Reply #21 posted 10/10/17 6:22pm

MickyDolenz

alphastreet said:

MickyDolenz said:

Is that why he's wearing a Playboy shirt? lol

https://78.media.tumblr.com/8336bbf9ed508a90e08b836fddee4037/tumblr_ox0m4rF2CO1rw606ko3_400.jpg

That playboy shirt pic deserves a caption

I'm michael jackson, and I'm gonna marry diana ross when I grow up!!! cool

but michael, she's too old

that's ignorant

Less of an age difference than Hefner's later wives or the old man Anna Nicole Smith married. razz

Mike & Diana - 14 years

Mike & Lisa Marie - 10 years

It's called show business for a reason. It’s 90% business and 10% show. If you don’t know your business, you’re in trouble! ~ Johnnie Taylor
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Reply #22 posted 10/10/17 7:08pm

alphastreet

purplethunder3121 said:

alphastreet said:

But I love me some mj, I'm just living my vicarious dream of writing mj-prince alternate universe skits lol

You forgot the old rumor about Janet Jackson actually being MJ in disguise... lol

oh but she is wink she also had the ability to shape shift into prince ala nude tour

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Reply #23 posted 10/12/17 5:41pm

tump

Good info about the CPR dummy that I never knew. One of my Favourite MJ videos too.

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Reply #24 posted 10/12/17 5:59pm

alphastreet

Yeah I knew about the Annie doll

He talked about his fascination with medicine in the ebony interview , it makes sense he would use that!
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Reply #25 posted 10/14/17 3:56pm

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alphastreet said:



daingermouz2020 said:


No, through out the the song he says She And her. As he came into the window It was the sound of a crescendo He came into her apartment He left the bloodstains on the carpet She ran underneath the table He could see she was unable So she ran into the bedroom She was struck down, it was her doom Annie, are you ok?


yes I'm aware, I can see him grounding his paranoia and fear into a character outside himself, it's what artists do sometimes.




I wasn't thinking in that way. I suppose it could ne.
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Reply #26 posted 10/14/17 9:06pm

alphastreet

daingermouz2020 said:

alphastreet said:



daingermouz2020 said:


No, through out the the song he says She And her. As he came into the window It was the sound of a crescendo He came into her apartment He left the bloodstains on the carpet She ran underneath the table He could see she was unable So she ran into the bedroom She was struck down, it was her doom Annie, are you ok?


yes I'm aware, I can see him grounding his paranoia and fear into a character outside himself, it's what artists do sometimes.




I wasn't thinking in that way. I suppose it could ne.



Like he felt vulnerable or victimized from fame and likened his vulnerability to an abuse victim.
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