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MickyDolenz

Mariah Carey to Be Honored at VH1’s ‘Hip Hop Honors’

September 11, 2017 Rap-Up
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Mariah Carey and hip-hop go back like babies with pacifiers.

The music icon will be honored at VH1’s “Hip Hop Honors: The ’90s Game Changers,” celebrating her groundbreaking hip-hop collaborations, including “Fantasy (Remix)” with Ol’ Dirty Bastard, “Honey (Bad Boy Remix)” with The Lox and Ma$e, and “Heartbreaker” with JAY-Z.

Hosted by actress Regina Hall, the show will feature a performance from former honoree Missy Elliott. Comedian/actor Martin Lawrence will also be honored at this year’s show for his work in stand-up, movies, and television.

The ’90s-style block party will take place on Sept. 17 at Paramount Studios in Hollywood and premiere on Sept. 18 at 9 p.m. “Game Changers” is also set to recognize the victims of the hurricanes that have devastated the country.

VH1’s “Hip Hop Honors” has taken place eight times since 2004. It was an annual show up until 2010, when it went on a six-year hiatus. Last year, it returned to honor Queen Latifah, Salt-N-Pepa, Lil’ Kim, and two-time honoree, Missy Elliott, who was also celebrated in 2007.

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Reply #1 posted 09/13/17 2:11pm

MickyDolenz

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Reply #2 posted 09/13/17 4:33pm

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Why is Mariah being honored at a Hip-Hop Award Show. And why Martin?

Arsenio or Keenen over Martin as Hip-Hip influence in the 90s.
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Reply #3 posted 09/14/17 8:21am

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Why is Mariah being honored at a Hip-Hop Award Show. And why Martin?

Arsenio or Keenen over Martin as Hip-Hip influence in the 90s.

Good question.
Might have something to do with his stupid show being on heavy rotation on that formerly music affiliated network. Gen "whatever"'ers know him from this
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Reply #4 posted 09/14/17 9:16am

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2045RadicalMattZ said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Why is Mariah being honored at a Hip-Hop Award Show. And why Martin?

Arsenio or Keenen over Martin as Hip-Hip influence in the 90s.

Good question.
Might have something to do with his stupid show being on heavy rotation on that formerly music affiliated network. Gen "whatever"'ers know him from this

But the sitcom had nothing to do with Hip-Hop. He had a few guest. Biggie, Snoop, Method Man, Yo-Yo, Bushwick Bill. But Arsenio and Keenen had guest on every week.
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Reply #5 posted 09/14/17 11:24am

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I don't get it but then again these days anything goes!
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Reply #6 posted 09/14/17 3:06pm

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ReddBlitz said:

I don't get it but then again these days anything goes!

How true! lol

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Reply #7 posted 09/14/17 3:47pm

RJOrion

honored for what???...that one wack song she did with a cracked-out Old Dirty Bastard?...for letting Cam'ron rap on "Boy"(I Need You)"?...for letting Nick Cannon seed her up?...i dont get it

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Reply #8 posted 09/14/17 3:51pm

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RJOrion said:

honored for what???...that one wack song she did with a cracked-out Old Dirty Bastard?...for letting Cam'ron rap on "Boy"(I Need You)"?...for letting Nick Cannon seed her up?...i dont get it

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Reply #9 posted 09/15/17 11:49am

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Why is Mariah being honored at a Hip-Hop Award Show.

Well, pretty much all of her later stuff had rappers on it, either on the albums or the remixes. Mariah even did a rap herself on her debut album on the song Prisoner. But Mariah's rhymes probably wasn't used as part of the criteria. razz I think Mariah gave Nicki Minaj her first mainstream exposure.


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Reply #10 posted 09/15/17 1:10pm

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honored for what???...that one wack song she did with a cracked-out Old Dirty Bastard?...for letting Cam'ron rap on "Boy"(I Need You)"?...for letting Nick Cannon seed her up?...i dont get it

selling out....

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Reply #11 posted 09/15/17 8:13pm

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I think they're desperate to find people to honor. She's collaborated with a lot of rappers, so they figured why not honor her. It's ridiculous of course, but it also elevates their show, having someone of her stature there.
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Reply #12 posted 09/15/17 8:29pm

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I think they're desperate to find people to honor. She's collaborated with a lot of rappers, so they figured why not honor her. It's ridiculous of course, but it also elevates their show, having someone of her stature there.

they might as well start giving "HipHop Honors" awards to people like Amber Rose and Kim Kardashian, too then.... they've also "collaborated" (wink wink) with alot of rappers

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Reply #13 posted 09/16/17 11:03am

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Ho of the decade?

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Reply #14 posted 09/16/17 4:23pm

dancerella

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Ho of the decade?




I thought that was Nicki Minaj!
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Reply #15 posted 09/16/17 7:34pm

RJOrion

dancerella said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Ho of the decade?




I thought that was Nicki Minaj!



nah...kim kardashian or amber rose...but i love Amber Rose
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Reply #16 posted 09/17/17 12:47am

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RJOrion said:

dancerella said:




I thought that was Nicki Minaj!



nah...kim kardashian or amber rose...but i love Amber Rose



They're all trashy pigs.
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Reply #17 posted 09/17/17 1:00pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Why is Mariah being honored at a Hip-Hop Award Show. And why Martin? Arsenio or Keenen over Martin as Hip-Hip influence in the 90s.

Um, maybe for being one of the first and biggest star of the time to introduce the "hip hop collaboration" into mainstream pop culture. Not overstating that many rappers owe their careers to her.

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Reply #18 posted 09/17/17 6:06pm

RJOrion

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LittleBLUECorvette said:


Why is Mariah being honored at a Hip-Hop Award Show. And why Martin? Arsenio or Keenen over Martin as Hip-Hip influence in the 90s.


Um, maybe for being one of the first and biggest star of the time to introduce the "hip hop collaboration" into mainstream pop culture. Not overstating that many rappers owe their careers to her.




name one rapper that "owes their career" to Mariah Carey...you cant...
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Reply #19 posted 09/17/17 6:56pm

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Da Brat lol
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Reply #20 posted 09/17/17 7:14pm

RJOrion

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Da Brat lol




no....dabrat's debut album went platinum in 94....she first rapped on a mariah carey song in 96...jermaine dupri is who dabrat owes her career...not mariah carey...dont rewrite history...
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eduJ said:



LittleBLUECorvette said:


Why is Mariah being honored at a Hip-Hop Award Show. And why Martin? Arsenio or Keenen over Martin as Hip-Hip influence in the 90s.


Um, maybe for being one of the first and biggest star of the time to introduce the "hip hop collaboration" into mainstream pop culture. Not overstating that many rappers owe their careers to her.


There were plenty hip-hop and RnB collabs before Mariah lol.
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LittleBLUECorvette said:

There were plenty hip-hop and RnB collabs before Mariah lol.


Patti LaBelle & Big Daddy Cane Duet in 91...Their Collaboration did not change the Game but it was an eye opener for Old School Haters of Rap like Ms. Dionne Warrick..

Years later Patti recorded with Shaggy, Kanye West & DMX..

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Reply #23 posted 09/18/17 7:00am

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RJOrion said:

StrangeButTrue said:
Da Brat lol
no....dabrat's debut album went platinum in 94....she first rapped on a mariah carey song in 96...jermaine dupri is who dabrat owes her career...not mariah carey...dont rewrite history...

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Oh thats right, her debut album.

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Chancellor said:



LittleBLUECorvette said:



There were plenty hip-hop and RnB collabs before Mariah lol.





Patti LaBelle & Big Daddy Cane Duet in 91...Their Collaboration did not change the Game but it was an eye opener for Old School Haters of Rap like Ms. Dionne Warrick..

Years later Patti recorded with Shaggy, Kanye West & DMX..


Jody and Rakim
Midnight Starr and Kool Mo Dee
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Reply #25 posted 09/18/17 7:22pm

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I enjoyed the show. It was good.

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Reply #26 posted 09/18/17 7:58pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:


Why is Mariah being honored at a Hip-Hop Award Show. And why Martin? Arsenio or Keenen over Martin as Hip-Hip influence in the 90s.


Um, maybe for being one of the first and biggest star of the time to introduce the "hip hop collaboration" into mainstream pop culture. Not overstating that many rappers owe their careers to her.



but that's not something that should be celebrated
smile all it did was cheapened and destroyed R&B music
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Reply #27 posted 09/18/17 9:26pm

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but that's not something that should be celebrated smile all it did was cheapened and destroyed R&B music

Destroyed it how? Rap is bigger all over the world than R&B in itself ever was. Hip hop also influenced mainstream fashion plus art with graffiti. Other than a few that crossed over, most R&B acts didn't sell that much. That was the entire reason for crossover, to get the bigger audiences to possibly make more money. Rappers don't really have to crossover today like an R&B singer or band had to. Rap is already mainstream. Just like rock n roll, which was also an offspring of R&B, sold more than R&B did. If traditional R&B sold a lot, then record companies wouldn't have abandoned it. Hip hop didn't destroy old R&B, the lack of enough of an audience for it to make a big profit did.

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There's still people who make traditional R&B, just like in the 1970s & 1980s there was Sha Na Na & The Stray Cats doing 1950s style R&B/doo wop/rockabilly after they long fell out of mainstream popularity. There's Beatles & Pink Floyd tribute bands for the audience who wants to hear that style of music. Orchestras, opera singers, and Renaissance Faire bands still perform music written hundreds of years ago. Some people here always put down Lionel Richie's solo career. But if he stuck with doing whatever the early Commodores were doing, he'd be obscure today and Nicole Richie probably wouldn't have become famous.

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Reply #28 posted 09/19/17 3:45pm

luvsexy4all

anybody ever listen to the RADIO CHICK show? she used to say mariah looked like mariah's cocch smelled

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Reply #29 posted 09/19/17 9:20pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Chancellor said:


Patti LaBelle & Big Daddy Cane Duet in 91...Their Collaboration did not change the Game but it was an eye opener for Old School Haters of Rap like Ms. Dionne Warrick..

Years later Patti recorded with Shaggy, Kanye West & DMX..

Jody and Rakim Midnight Starr and Kool Mo Dee

Do you mean Midnight Star and Ecstasy(Whodini) for the collaboration Rock The Boat?

Also Whodini did a collaboration with Millie Jackson on their Open Sesame album way

before Mariah and not to mention Run DMC and Aerosmith and the Fat Boys and The Beach

Boys. Fat Boys and Force MD's collaborated in 1985. Way before Mariah.

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