MickyDolenz said:

Scorp said:

NFL ratings took a plunge last year and the more they turn it into an entertainment spectacle the ratings will continue to drop just like in the NBA......

Perhaps people are not as interested in football, especially since those reports about concussions over the last few years. Football fans will watch it whether or not there's a halftime show. That's like saying people won't watch a TV show because there's commercial interruptions. Football is entertainment in the first place, why do you think people watch it? Why do you think people watch guys beat up each other with boxing & MMA, they're entertained by it. ESPN means "Entertainment & Sports Programming Network" and WWE is "World Wrestling Entertainment". Anyway things drop in popularity after awhile. There used to be a lot of soap operas on weekday TV, now there's 3 or 4 left. The nighttime soaps like Dallas & Dynasty have been replaced by endless cop shows like CSI Bedrock . Rock music is not as popular on Top 40 as it was pre 1990s. Fewer people buy CDs. Video rental places like Blockbuster went out of business. There used to be movies of the week on the 3 main networks starring Markie Post or somebody. They're gone or on cable TV. MTV had to change their format to keep viewers because their ratings started to drop when they were still showing music videos.

And ESPN ratings are plummeting too, all these sports leagues have went corporate an the essence has been stripped away

Bad officiating even with more technical advancements and inconsistent play

mjscarousal said:

Lady Gagas halftime this year is the second most watched half time after Katy So ratings are doing fine for half time. The lowest watched half time performances in recent years are the two timees Beyonce performed which is why I find it odd they have allowed her to do it more than once when her ratings were the lowest out of all the other headliners. I think they should switch up the format or bring back rock bands. [Edited 8/20/17 14:37pm]

I think Scorp was talking about the ratings of the actual football game, not the ratings of the halftime show. He's saying the halftime show is the reason the ratings are dropping for the game. To a football fan, the halftime show does not make a difference in them watching the game or not watching it.

Scorp said:

And ESPN ratings are plummeting too, all these sports leagues have went corporate an the essence has been stripped away

Bad officiating even with more technical advancements and inconsistent play

If the ratings are dropping, it has nothing to do with halftime. There's way more forms of entertainment today and there's many sports channels, cancelling each other out. Some games are also online, so that can possibly cut into TV ratings too. TV ratings are based on Nielson boxes. How many people do Nielson today anyhow? I think it's based on watching live TV, so if people DVR a game and watch it later, does it count? Many people today spend time watching their phones instead of television.

Here's a real all time SuperBowl telecast from beginning to end....

Super Bowl XXV between the New York Giants vs Buffalo Bills, both teams were 13-3 headed into that game.....

That was the game where Whitney Houston sang her heart out and gave a top 2 rendition ever of the Star Spangled Banner......

they stuck to the program during the half time show, no shenanigans, focused on the game, and that game was the highest level of superbowl play one could ask for and for me the greatest super bowl of all time with the Giants prevailing 20-19.....

THAT was a super bowl telecast...they didn't have to do all the hype up....

Premier artists singing the Star Spangled Banner, that's A-1.....no problem

allot of these halfttime shows lately are sending out cryptic messages during the performances.....

[Edited 8/20/17 14:55pm]

MickyDolenz said:

Scorp said:

And ESPN ratings are plummeting too, all these sports leagues have went corporate an the essence has been stripped away

Bad officiating even with more technical advancements and inconsistent play

If the ratings are dropping, it has nothing to do with halftime. There's way more forms of entertainment today and there's many sports channels, cancelling each other out. Some games are also online, so that can possibly cut into TV ratings too. TV ratings are based on Nielson boxes. How many people do Nielson today anyhow? I think it's based on watching live TV, so if people DVR a game and watch it later, does it count? Many people today spend time watching their phones instead of television.

they're rating sare declining because the quality of their presentation has waned....

Scorp said:

they're rating are declining because the quality of their presentation has waned....

If the ratings are dropping, what's it to you? Do you own stock in the NFL, NBA, NBL, or ESPN? Maybe you should invest in soccer, since it's supposed to be the most popular sport worldwide. Or the Ice Cube 3 on 3 basketball league. You always post doom and gloom end of the world stuff like people don't buy music because of a "pop ascension" rather than the case that many people download music for free or don't own a stereo/boombox where you have to buy a product to play on it. You don't need a CD, record, or cassette for an Ipod & laptop.

MickyDolenz said:

Scorp said:

they're rating are declining because the quality of their presentation has waned....

If the ratings are dropping, what's it to you? Do you own stock in the NFL, NBA, NBL, or ESPN? Maybe you should invest in soccer, since it's supposed to be the most popular sport worldwide. Or the Ice Cube 3 on 3 basketball league. You always post doom and gloom end of the world stuff like people don't buy music because of a "pop ascension" rather than the case that many people download music for free or don't own a stereo/boombox where you have to buy a product to play on it. You don't need a CD, record, or cassette for an Ipod & laptop.

If?...it is.....facts......

doom and gloom?.......it's called deterioration of culture.........

anyone can google "why is music today so bad" or "why has music declined" and that person will find hundreds upon hundreds of articles on the subject giving insite and distinct reasons why....that person don't have to take my word on anything and can do their own research

matter of fact, I just gooled "why is music today bad" and the first article that appeared gives 11 reasons why?

I see comments on the regular from young people, teenagers who say they wish they grew up on the music of the 60s, 70s, and 80s....nobody forced them to say that, they see that for themselves

the industry knows the music is bad that's why they trying to come up w/every gimmick possible to stoke interest. Don't take no neurosurgeon to see it for what it is

the decline started a decade before music dowloading came to be

the NFL is focusing on the wrong elements to draw ratings and it should be about the game....

I'm a go watch this Big 3 though....peace

^^The music is bad to you, it's not bad to me. You can't prove it's bad, many people like it and it's popular on the charts. As far as pro sports in the USA go, whose culture is that? If you go back far enough, it was pretty much all white males. There were separate leagues for others like the Negro Baseball League and All-American Girls Professional Baseball League.

no Prince + no MJ = who gives a damn!

MD431Madcat said:

no Prince + no MJ = who gives a damn!

Those were the best half time performances of all time.

mjscarousal said:

MD431Madcat said:

no Prince + no MJ = who gives a damn!

Those were the best half time performances of all time.

MickyDolenz said:

^^The music is bad to you, it's not bad to me. You can't prove it's bad, many people like it and it's popular on the charts. As far as pro sports in the USA go, whose culture is that? If you go back far enough, it was pretty much all white males. There were separate leagues for others like the Negro Baseball League and All-American Girls Professional Baseball League.

when I mentioned cultural deterioration, I wasn't talkin about sports...

Im referring to the arts

Rihanna w/ special guests Parliament Funkadelic, Drake, Slash

728huey said:

SoulAlive said:

has anyone suggested Mariah Carey?

I would have enthusiastically suggested her a year ago, but after her NYRE debacle, I don't think anyone would want to see her doing a half-assed performance on the biggest stage ever. Also, she did a halftime performance during a Thanksgiving game several years ago when her Mimi album was out, and she just lipsynched through that.

yeah,that NYE performance was a complete embarassment.

green2 said:

Rihanna w/ special guests Parliament Funkadelic, Drake, Slash

Could you throw in OutKast toO?

Scorp said:

Here's a real all time SuperBowl telecast from beginning to end....

Super Bowl XXV between the New York Giants vs Buffalo Bills, both teams were 13-3 headed into that game.....

That was the game where Whitney Houston sang her heart out and gave a top 2 rendition ever of the Star Spangled Banner......

they stuck to the program during the half time show, no shenanigans, focused on the game, and that game was the highest level of superbowl play one could ask for and for me the greatest super bowl of all time with the Giants prevailing 20-19.....

THAT was a super bowl telecast...they didn't have to do all the hype up....

Premier artists singing the Star Spangled Banner, that's A-1.....no problem

allot of these halfttime shows lately are sending out cryptic messages during the performances.....

[Edited 8/20/17 14:55pm]

I remember watching that on video (I'm un the UK) the next day as a soon-to-be heartbroken ten year old Bills fan

... didn't get much better the next few years either!

Mariah Carey with special guest Pharrell (he'll come out performing "Happy" with a guest rapper)

SoulAlive said:

Mariah Carey with special guest Pharrell (he'll come out performing "Happy" with a guest rapper)

Yeah that... and we know how the performance will end up for Carey.

[Edited 8/21/17 19:13pm]

shoot me now!

214 said:

SoulAlive said:

Mariah Carey with special guest Pharrell (he'll come out performing "Happy" with a guest rapper)

Yeah that... andwe know how the perfrimance will end up for Carey.

MD431Madcat said:

shoot me now!

214 said:

Yeah that... andwe know how the perfrimance will end up for Carey.

What? you mean it?

Taylor Swift just announced a new album......so I bet that she's being considered.

Taylor Swift is cool. I think she's very talented. Taylor Swift & The Dixie Chicks would be a good show.

green2 said:

Isn't it in Minneapolis next year? Why not get a rock and funk band do it so they can pay tribute to Prince? Hell, they could even get a Black college marching band to do a Prince musical selection. It seems only fitting to pay tribute to Prince in his home town and considering his half time performance is one of the best the NFL ever had but its clear as day the NFL is not about morals and doing what is morally right.

[Edited 8/25/17 9:21am]

Scorp said:

they're rating sare declining because the quality of their presentation has waned....

According to these articles, football in general is less popular with millenials than with previous generations. So halftime shows have nothing to do with it, it's more technology. It might have to do with younger generations have developed different interests. Probably like younger generations are less interested in the circus and Sea World type shows because of cruelty to animals.

Are Millennials Losing Interest in the NFL?

Universities turn focus to young fans as football attendance declines

Millennials Abandon Sports On TV, Posing Threat To Teams, Leagues, Broadcast Partners, Finds Study
So long, televised football: Millennials are so over you
Here's why NFL must find a way to boost its appeal among millennials
In Pursuit of Millennials, More Fun in Sports. But Still No Twerking.
Football Will No Longer Be America's Favorite Pastime by 2050

Maybe a tribute involving vocal groups from the past and present eg. New Edition, En Vogue, Boyz II Men, New Kids on The Block etc......I've been watching the ABC's reality show Boy Band and I really enjoyed watching some of the acts that I grew up listening perform on that show like BBD (performing the classic "Poison").

[Edited 8/25/17 22:49pm]

Contenders most likely to get the gig: Rihanna & Drake / Justin Timberlake & JAY Z / P!nk / Eminem / Kendrick Lamar

Possible dark horses: Santana / Foo Fighters / Guns & Roses / New Edition / Daft Punk & Pharrell Williams

Fake-News announced on Twitter that Jay-Z and Justin Titty-Gate Timberlake are in talks to share the Bill..

MickyDolenz said:

Scorp said:

they're rating sare declining because the quality of their presentation has waned....

According to these articles, football in general is less popular with millenials than with previous generations. So halftime shows have nothing to do with it, it's more technology. It might have to do with younger generations have developed different interests. Probably like younger generations are less interested in the circus and Sea World type shows because of cruelty to animals.

Are Millennials Losing Interest in the NFL?

Universities turn focus to young fans as football attendance declines

Millennials Abandon Sports On TV, Posing Threat To Teams, Leagues, Broadcast Partners, Finds Study
So long, televised football: Millennials are so over you
Here's why NFL must find a way to boost its appeal among millennials
In Pursuit of Millennials, More Fun in Sports. But Still No Twerking.
Football Will No Longer Be America's Favorite Pastime by 2050

Technology?....technology has been advancing for ages, even when the inaugural Super Bowl took place

same thing is happening with boxing.......

when the boxing world has to sanction a bout between a pro fighter and an MMA fighter like on saturday night, and try and promote it as legit, it's already a wrap.....

the problem is the script has been flipped....

trying to cater something to appeal to a certain age group makes the outcome more predictable than the result one is trying to achieve

whereas, when the history of the game spoke for itself, that history is what drew people to support the NFL....