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Reply #30 posted 07/19/17 5:33am

ReddBlitz

214 said:



ReddBlitz said:


List is "interesting" but for me...nah!!! These are just some of the albums I felt, imo, that defined the '90s...in no particular order... .janet - Janet Jackson Dangerous - Michael Jackson The Score - The Fugees Miseducation of... - Lauryn Hill The Low End Theory - A Tribe Called Quest Illmatic - Nas Fear of a Black Planet - Public Enemy Baduizm - Erykah Badu Enter 36 Chambers - Wu Tang Clan Only Built 4 Cuban Linx - Raekwon What's The 411? - Mary J. Blige

All by blac artists... no way.



So?!! Your point?! I thought I've stated clearly that such a list was simply based on my opinion. I wasn't ever looking for it to be agreed or disagreed upon with. However, since those choose in wanting to do and say such, hey, be my guess! Still, at the end of the day, again, it's my opinion. Everyone's entitled in having one. I ain't changin' mine!

Furthermore, wasn't RAP music a very big part of the '90s?! Didn't the likes of the Fugees, Lauryn Hill, and the Notorious B.I.G all have DIAMOND certified albums?! As with black artists of the '90s decade, didn't we see the same as with already mentioned TLC, as well as with Whitney Houston, Boyz II Men, Toni Braxton and Natalie Cole?! Also, wasn't some of the biggest songs of the '90s to stay atop the Billboard Hot 100 Charts for weeks at a time too R&B?! So yes, in my opinion, I felt it necessary to mention such black artists who just as well were too some of the biggest selling artists of the '90s decade. Not to mention such major influences.
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Reply #31 posted 07/19/17 9:14am

namepeace

ReddBlitz said:

namepeace said:


Several of these albums defined my 90's, but they didn't define the 90's.

As I previously stated, in what I listed was no more than what I felt in my opinion. What's considered by me as such isn't going to be celebrated or even acknowledged as such by all. Lol And it's all good!!


I understand, but that's not quite what you said.

You listed defining albums of the 90's, in your opinion. Your list looks a lot like my list of great albums of the 1990's. A relatively limited subset of the music audience, including you and me, bought and appreciate those albums. Influential as they may be, they didn't define the decade in music.

Which is why I said the original albums listed were legit choices, even though I only think 1 or 2 albums are really great albums. As much as I wished our tastes defined the 90's, the general audiences said differently.

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Reply #32 posted 07/19/17 1:22pm

ReddBlitz

namepeace said:



ReddBlitz said:


namepeace said:



Several of these albums defined my 90's, but they didn't define the 90's.



As I previously stated, in what I listed was no more than what I felt in my opinion. What's considered by me as such isn't going to be celebrated or even acknowledged as such by all. Lol And it's all good!!


I understand, but that's not quite what you said.

You listed defining albums of the 90's, in your opinion. Your list looks a lot like my list of great albums of the 1990's. A relatively limited subset of the music audience, including you and me, bought and appreciate those albums. Influential as they may be, they didn't define the decade in music.

Which is why I said the original albums listed were legit choices, even though I only think 1 or 2 albums are really great albums. As much as I wished our tastes defined the 90's, the general audiences said differently.

peace



Smh Wow. It's a really sad case here. Again, I'm not understanding what all the hoopla's about?! Especially when it's simply of one's opinion which I from start made very clear. My list is based on what I like and felt should've at least been considered. By all means, go forth and continuously hear yourself talk because again, what I like stands and whoever does or doesn't agree...simply as Peter Gabriel's '80s classic suggests best...SO!?
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Reply #33 posted 07/19/17 1:28pm

TheFman

oh wow that list is so way off.. Where's Pearl Jam, Chili Peppers, Metallica, Faith No More, Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins, and i could name another 50 of them?

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Reply #34 posted 07/19/17 1:56pm

214

It's not that easy, what does that mean "define" ? how do we know for sure?

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Reply #35 posted 07/19/17 2:25pm

MickyDolenz

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214 said:

It's not that easy, what does that mean "define"? how do we know for sure?

Easy, whatever was popular with mainstream America, sold a lot, or got a lot of Top 40 airplay. Like Michael Jackson's Thriller would be an 1980s equivalent. It was huge.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #36 posted 07/19/17 2:27pm

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TheFman said:

oh wow that list is so way off.. Where's Pearl Jam, Chili Peppers, Metallica, Faith No More, Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins, and i could name another 50 of them?

Garth Brooks sold more than all of them

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #37 posted 07/19/17 2:30pm

TheFman

MickyDolenz said:

TheFman said:

oh wow that list is so way off.. Where's Pearl Jam, Chili Peppers, Metallica, Faith No More, Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins, and i could name another 50 of them?

Garth Brooks sold more than all of them

never heard of him, sorry.
Perhaps Julio Iglesias did also, but that doesn't make him the icon of the 90's

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Reply #38 posted 07/19/17 2:49pm

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never heard of him, sorry.
Perhaps Julio Iglesias did also, but that doesn't make him the icon of the 90's

You don't know Chris Gaines either? lol Why wouldn't Julio not be an icon? There's other countries besides the USA & UK. You can't say any of the acts mentioned in this thread are icons for everywhere in the world. Are the Smashing Pumpkins & Metallica relevant everywhere in Africa?

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #39 posted 07/19/17 3:09pm

TheFman

MickyDolenz said:

TheFman said:

never heard of him, sorry.
Perhaps Julio Iglesias did also, but that doesn't make him the icon of the 90's

You don't know Chris Gaines either? lol Why wouldn't Julio not be an icon? There's other countries besides the USA & UK. You can't say any of the acts mentioned in this thread are icons for everywhere in the world. Are the Smashing Pumpkins & Metallica relevant everywhere in Africa?

I always like Julio a lot, but his albums didn't shape any decade, yet he sold shitloads.

Chris who? biggrin

Well, in Africa, some countries apart, is probably none of yours or mine or his lists very relevant...

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Reply #40 posted 07/19/17 4:00pm

214

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214 said:

All by blac artists... no way.

So?!! Your point?! I thought I've stated clearly that such a list was simply based on my opinion. I wasn't ever looking for it to be agreed or disagreed upon with. However, since those choose in wanting to do and say such, hey, be my guess! Still, at the end of the day, again, it's my opinion. Everyone's entitled in having one. I ain't changin' mine! Furthermore, wasn't RAP music a very big part of the '90s?! Didn't the likes of the Fugees, Lauryn Hill, and the Notorious B.I.G all have DIAMOND certified albums?! As with black artists of the '90s decade, didn't we see the same as with already mentioned TLC, as well as with Whitney Houston, Boyz II Men, Toni Braxton and Natalie Cole?! Also, wasn't some of the biggest songs of the '90s to stay atop the Billboard Hot 100 Charts for weeks at a time too R&B?! So yes, in my opinion, I felt it necessary to mention such black artists who just as well were too some of the biggest selling artists of the '90s decade. Not to mention such major influences. [Edited 7/19/17 5:51am] [Edited 7/19/17 5:53am] [Edited 7/19/17 5:56am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:19am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:20am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:25am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:27am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:29am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:31am]

Fair enough Robert.

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Reply #41 posted 07/19/17 6:13pm

luvsexy4all

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not complete without mention of Symphony or Damn, Time's Up and Mechanical Animals

TTD, Living Colour and Marylin manson

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Reply #42 posted 07/19/17 8:06pm

SoulAlive

I wonder why 'The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill' is not on this list hmmm
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Reply #43 posted 07/19/17 8:16pm

RJOrion

SoulAlive said:

I wonder why 'The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill' is not on this list hmmm

because she's "BLAC"...

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Reply #44 posted 07/19/17 8:46pm

206Michelle

I'm confused. Is the article talking about the best albums of the 1990s or the albums that best-defined the 1990s. Those are 2 different issues.

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I've listened to the following albums from start to finish: CrazySexyCool, Nevermind, and Ray of Light. I've heard some songs from The Chronic, The Slim Shady LP, Jagged Little Pill, Monster, and Achtung Baby.

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In terms of 90s-defining albums, Bjork, Debut should not be on this list, under any circumstances. If it's a best albums of the 90s, I can't have an opinion because I never listened to the album. Bjork was not among the 10 most popular musicians of the 90s. I've never listened to Odelay, so I don't have an opinion on it. However, I would not count Odelay as one of the most influential albums of the 90s.

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Regardless of whether it's a best-of the 90s list of 90s-defining list, there is no way that The Slim Shady LP should be above The Chronic.

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I totally agree with the choices of Nevermind, CrazySexyCool, Jagged Little Pill, The Chronic, Ray of Light, Monster, and Achtung Baby.

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I can't understand why The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill and Santana's Supernatural are not on this list.

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Reply #45 posted 07/19/17 8:51pm

206Michelle

In terms of most influential albums of the 90s, The Bodyguard needs to be on the list, absolutely. Whitney Houston was bigger than life in the early 90s.

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Reply #46 posted 07/19/17 8:56pm

206Michelle

ReddBlitz said:

214 said:

All by blac artists... no way.

So?!! Your point?! I thought I've stated clearly that such a list was simply based on my opinion. I wasn't ever looking for it to be agreed or disagreed upon with. However, since those choose in wanting to do and say such, hey, be my guess! Still, at the end of the day, again, it's my opinion. Everyone's entitled in having one. I ain't changin' mine! Furthermore, wasn't RAP music a very big part of the '90s?! Didn't the likes of the Fugees, Lauryn Hill, and the Notorious B.I.G all have DIAMOND certified albums?! As with black artists of the '90s decade, didn't we see the same as with already mentioned TLC, as well as with Whitney Houston, Boyz II Men, Toni Braxton and Natalie Cole?! Also, wasn't some of the biggest songs of the '90s to stay atop the Billboard Hot 100 Charts for weeks at a time too R&B?! So yes, in my opinion, I felt it necessary to mention such black artists who just as well were too some of the biggest selling artists of the '90s decade. Not to mention such major influences. [Edited 7/19/17 5:51am] [Edited 7/19/17 5:53am] [Edited 7/19/17 5:56am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:19am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:20am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:25am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:27am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:29am] [Edited 7/19/17 6:31am]

Boyz II Men and Natalie Cole are good names...I didn't even think of them. Toni Braxton was popula, but I wouldn't put her above WH, BIIM, TLC, or NC.

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Reply #47 posted 07/20/17 3:02pm

214

SoulAlive said:

I wonder why 'The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill' is not on this list hmmm

I'm wondering the same.

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Reply #48 posted 07/20/17 8:56pm

Ugot2shakesumt
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Great list of albums. The only clunker and real sore thumb...TLC. C'mon.

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Reply #49 posted 07/20/17 9:48pm

206Michelle

MickyDolenz said:

TheFman said:

oh wow that list is so way off.. Where's Pearl Jam, Chili Peppers, Metallica, Faith No More, Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins, and i could name another 50 of them?

Garth Brooks sold more than all of them

Yeah, he should probably on the list somewhere. I really didn't know any of his songs until I went to college and lived in a small college town where I heard a lot of country music. However, I definitely knew of Garth Brooks, and that he was a mjor Country music star.

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Reply #50 posted 07/20/17 9:53pm

206Michelle

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Great list of albums. The only clunker and real sore thumb...TLC. C'mon.

You can debate the greatness/quality of CrazySexyCool, yes. You cannot debate its popularity. TLC was HUGE in the mid-90s. I consider "Waterfalls" to be my childhood anthem because it was an absolutely gigantic hit song. Few songs of the 90s were more popular than "Waterfalls," one of which was "I Will Always Love You," which was quite possibly the biggest song of the 90s.

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