Goddess4Real said:

Quincy Jones I Suffered Financial Elder Abuse ... Judge in MJ Case Rejects Claim http://www.tmz.com/2017/0...oductions/

Update

The judge denied Quincy's motion to add financial elder abuse to the lawsuit.

Quincy Jones says he's the victim of elder abuse in his legal war over Michael Jackson royalties.

According to new docs filed in the case -- which went to trial this week in L.A. -- Quincy says Sony Music and MJJ Productions took advantage of his advanced age. He's 84 now, and in the docs, says he was clearly over 65 at the time he sat down with the music execs to talk dough.

Quincy says Sony and MJJ pulled an accounting trick on him -- labeling a pot of money from MJ's music as profits, instead of royalties ... to which he would have been entitled a cut.

In short ... he's accusing them of bamboozling an old man.

Of course, Q produced MJ's 3 biggest albums -- "Off the Wall," "Thriller" and "Bad" -- and says the defendants have screwed him out of money earned off that amazing string of hits.

He's suing for at least $10 million, and is expected to testify in court this week

[Edited 7/19/17 20:26pm]

shit, he's getting silly now, quincy knows all about money, it's just one of those terms to influence the court. Next he'll use a term like he's being "bullied" or some shit.

Goddess4Real said:

Quincy Jones I Suffered Financial Elder Abuse ... Judge in MJ Case Rejects Claim http://www.tmz.com/2017/0...oductions/

Update

The judge denied Quincy's motion to add financial elder abuse to the lawsuit.

Quincy Jones says he's the victim of elder abuse in his legal war over Michael Jackson royalties.

According to new docs filed in the case -- which went to trial this week in L.A. -- Quincy says Sony Music and MJJ Productions took advantage of his advanced age. He's 84 now, and in the docs, says he was clearly over 65 at the time he sat down with the music execs to talk dough.

Quincy says Sony and MJJ pulled an accounting trick on him -- labeling a pot of money from MJ's music as profits, instead of royalties ... to which he would have been entitled a cut.

In short ... he's accusing them of bamboozling an old man.

Of course, Q produced MJ's 3 biggest albums -- "Off the Wall," "Thriller" and "Bad" -- and says the defendants have screwed him out of money earned off that amazing string of hits.

He's suing for at least $10 million, and is expected to testify in court this week

[Edited 7/19/17 20:26pm]

Seriously? So this is the game? While regular elderly people having trouble holding on their homes.

Pay up! Quincy Jones claims contracts for Michael Jackson hits ‘cheated’ him out of riches http://mynewsla.com/holly...of-riches/

Grammy-winning record producer Quincy Jones testified Thursday that despite any contract language to the contrary, he believes he is entitled to royalties for the use by third parties of any Michael Jackson songs he helped produce for several albums, including “Thriller” and “Bad.”

Asked by Howard Weitzman, one of the attorneys for MJJ Productions Inc. – – a company that is part of the Jackson estate — why he sued the entity, Jones replied, “Because I got cheated out of a lot of money, that’s why.”

During sometimes heated responses to questions from the septuagenarian Weitzman, the octogenarian plaintiff said he was not trying to deprive Jackson’s children, the beneficiaries of the late singer’s estate, of any money to which they are entitled.

“I have children, too,” Jones said.

At one point, Jones rhetorically asked Weitzman, “You ever made a No. 1 one record?”

After Weitzman replied he had not, Jones said, “I know that.”

Jones said he traditionally left contract language up to his lawyers and that all he did was sign the documents. But he said the work he did was more important than anything else.

“If we make the record, the contract doesn’t mean anything to me,” Jones said.

Jones occasionally drew chuckles from jurors and the audience with some of his comments. When asked if he recognized Jackson’s sweeping signature alongside his on one of the contracts, Jones replied, “Ray Charles could see that.”

Jones said he doubted he would have sued if Jackson were still alive because he believed the two of them could have resolved any financial disagreements. He said he spent considerable time with the singer — who he praised often during his testimony — and that he was often present with Jackson at times the singer’s family was not.

“They weren’t even in the studio,” Jones said.

Jones repeatedly said the money was not as important as the quality of the work.

“My objective is to make a good record, that’s it,” Jones said.

Among the allegations in Jones’ suit against MJJ Productions are that royalties from the film “This is It” were disguised as profits and diverted to three Jackson estate entities: the Michael Jackson Co., MJJ Ventures and Triumph International. He also maintains he is entitled to money from two Cirque du Soleil shows about Jackson.

“This is It” is a 2009 documentary that traces Jackson’s rehearsals and preparation for a series of London concerts that never happened. The singer had been rehearsing for the shows when he died in Los Angeles on June 25, 2009 – – 18 days prior to the tour’s start date — of a drug overdose at age 50.

Jones, now 84, also alleges that master recordings he worked on were wrongfully edited and remixed so as to deprive him of bonus profits. The 28- time Grammy winner also maintains he was denied credit for his work on the singer’s works released after his death.

Jones made agreements with Jackson in 1978 and 1985 for work on the singer’s solo albums in which the producer claims he was given the first opportunity to re-edit or remix any of the master recordings. He also maintains that the coupling of master recordings with other recordings required his permission and that was to be given producer credit for each of the master recordings.

Jones filed the lawsuit in October 2013 in Los Angeles Superior Court.

–City News Service

[Edited 7/20/17 17:48pm]

hmm, i don't believe for a second that he didn't know what he was doing legally at any time. interesting he got agitated with the demos/final product comparison. i wonder why the question whether he felt he was entitled to things that weren't in writing? from my understanding, he did have things in writing that were being overlooked.

Goddess4Real said:

Re: Quincy Jones sues Michael Jackson’s estate over royalties http://www.courthousenews...on-estate/ Quincy Jones Testifies in $30M Royalty Fight With Michael Jackson Music producer Quincy Jones in 2014. (Photo courtesy Sam Santos/Canadian Film Centre) LOS ANGELES (CN) – Music producer, composer and arranger Quincy Jones took the stand Thursday morning to make his case in a dispute over $30 million in royalties he claims Michael Jackson’s estate owes him. During several testy exchanges with MJJ Productions’ attorney Howard Weitzman over the course of almost 2 1/2 hours, Jones frequently expressed his lack of interest in the legal aspects of his career. He acknowledged he only looked at the signature pages of his producer agreements for three collaborations with Jackson, including the albums “Off the Wall,” “Thriller” and “Bad.” Jones, wearing a maroon shirt, black tie, gray suit and shaded glasses, repeatedly returned to a common refrain: he was only interested in the music and not the pieces of paper he’d signed to secure royalties. When Weitzman asked the 84-year-old if he believed Jackson had done the right thing by him financially, Jones was forthright. “That’s open for debate,” Jones said. In October 2013, Jones sued Jackson’s estate MJJ Productions and Sony Music Entertainment for breach of a Nov. 1, 1978, producer’s agreement, and a Dec. 1, 1985, producer’s agreement with the King of Pop. In addition to the three albums, Jones also worked with Jackson on the 1978 movie “The Wiz” and Stephen Spielberg’s 1982 classic film “E.T.” he told the court. After Jackson died in 2009, Jones says Jackson’s three children, through his estate, began releasing new material without paying Jones his share. The new works included soundtracks for the documentary “This Is It” and the Cirque du Soliel production “Michael Jackson: The Immortal Work Tour.” Jones also says the Jackson children secretly entered into a joint venture agreement with Sony Music that exploited the master recordings of the music he produced with Jackson. Jones seeks $30 million in alleged unpaid royalties. During the trial in LA County Superior Court Judge Michael Stern’s courtroom downtown, jurors heard that Jones had received $18 million in compensation from the contracts. After taking the stand, Jones told his attorney Mike McKool that during his 70-year-career he learned that he could only make successful records with “extreme love, respect and trust.” He had left the negotiating of his contracts to his attorneys because he did not know how to translate the “legalese.” “That’s not my thing. I do music,” Jones said. During cross-examination on Thursday, Weitzman seized on Jones apparent ignorance of the contracts he had signed, asking him on multiple occasions if he believed he was entitled to things that were not in writing. “When you put the energy into the record, you should get paid every time it’s performed,” Jones said, at one point signaling his impatience with Weitzman by tapping his fingers on the space in front of him like a piano. Jones grew agitated when Weitzman played several early demos of Jackson’s songs, including “Workin’ Day and Night,” “Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough,” “Billie Jean,” and an a cappella version of “Beat It” that Jackson had recorded at his Hayvenhurst family home. The attorney then played the final album versions of the songs. “What’s your point, Howard,” Jones said at one point. At another, he snapped: “What are you trying to prove?” Weitzman said he was only trying to demonstrate Jackson’s contributions to the finished songs. He asked Jones why he had sued Jackson’s estate. “Because I was cheated of money, that’s why. A lot of money,” Jones replied. Both sides rested after Jones’ testimony and closing arguments are expected Monday at 9:30 a.m.

Quincy Jones Testifies Against Michael Jackson Estate: ‘I Was Cheated Out of a Lot of Money’ http://variety.com/2017/b...202501533/

Quincy Jones took the witness stand on Thursday, telling jurors he was “cheated out of a lot of money” by Michael Jackson’s estate.

Jones’ lawyers have alleged that the veteran producer is owed $30 million in revenues that have flowed to Jackson’s estate since the singer’s death in 2009. Jones, 84, has been touring in Europe for most of the trial, which has been underway in Los Angles Superior Court for two weeks. He entered the courtroom Thursday in a wheelchair.

At issue is the interpretation of two contracts for the albums “Off the Wall,” “Thriller,” and “Bad.” Jones testified that he left such details to lawyers and never read the actual agreements.

Instead, in often rambling testimony, Jones articulated a basic principle that he deserves to be paid for any use of songs from the albums.

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“If we made the record, we deserve to get paid,” he said. “It’s that simple.”

An attorney for Jackson’s estate, Howard Weitzman, tried to get Jones to concede that he is entitled to a share of album sales but not to licensing revenues for the Jackson recordings.

“That’s a joke,” Jones answered.

As Weitzman pressed him, Jones added, “I don’t care what the agreement says. If I put my heart and love into making a record, I want to get paid. I don’t care what the paper says.”

At another point, Jones asked the lawyer: “You ever made a No. 1 record?”

“No,” Weitzman said.

“I know that,” Jones replied.

Jones’ lawyers contend that his contracts entitle him to significant proceeds from “This Is It,” the backstage concert film released after Jackson’s death, as well as those from two Cirque du Soleil shows. The attorneys also contend that Jones is owed a larger share from a Sony contract that was renegotiated after Jackson’s death.

Under questioning from his own lawyer, Mike McKool, Jones gave extensive reminiscences about his music career and his collaboration with Jackson. He testified that his relationship with Jackson was founded on “love, respect, and trust,” and that financial considerations rarely surfaced.

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“That never in my life crossed my mind — money and fame,” he said. “If that happens, God walks out of the room. If you try to sell Ciroc vodka, forget it.”

Under cross-examination, Weitzman played Jackson’s demo versions of “Workin’ Day and Night,” “Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough,” and “Beat It,” as well as the finished album versions of each song. Jones nodded his head in rhythm, and at one point raised his arm as if conducting musicians.

Weitzman’s point was that Jackson himself made major contributions to the sound of each song, which rankled Jones, who testified that producers often take the blame for failures while artists get credit for hits.

“I believed in Michael like my own son,” he testified. “I spent more time with him than his family. They weren’t in the studio.”

Weitzman repeatedly noted that he is representing Jackson’s three children, who are the beneficiaries of the estate, and asked if Jones would sue Jackson if he were still alive.

“I’m not suing Michael, I’m suing y’all,” Jones said, noting that the estate’s lawyers have been handsomely paid. Another attorney for the estate testified earlier that the executors have received about $50 million in fees since Jackson’s death.

When Weitzman raised the children again, Jones rebutted, “I got children, too.”

cold motherfucker

Goddess4Real said:

Quincy Jones Testifies Against Michael Jackson Estate: ‘I Was Cheated Out of a Lot of Money’ http://variety.com/2017/b...202501533/

Quincy Jones took the witness stand on Thursday, telling jurors he was “cheated out of a lot of money” by Michael Jackson’s estate.

Jones’ lawyers have alleged that the veteran producer is owed $30 million in revenues that have flowed to Jackson’s estate since the singer’s death in 2009. Jones, 84, has been touring in Europe for most of the trial, which has been underway in Los Angles Superior Court for two weeks. He entered the courtroom Thursday in a wheelchair.

At issue is the interpretation of two contracts for the albums “Off the Wall,” “Thriller,” and “Bad.” Jones testified that he left such details to lawyers and never read the actual agreements.

Instead, in often rambling testimony, Jones articulated a basic principle that he deserves to be paid for any use of songs from the albums.

Related

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“If we made the record, we deserve to get paid,” he said. “It’s that simple.”

An attorney for Jackson’s estate, Howard Weitzman, tried to get Jones to concede that he is entitled to a share of album sales but not to licensing revenues for the Jackson recordings.

“That’s a joke,” Jones answered.

As Weitzman pressed him, Jones added, “I don’t care what the agreement says. If I put my heart and love into making a record, I want to get paid. I don’t care what the paper says.”

At another point, Jones asked the lawyer: “You ever made a No. 1 record?”

“No,” Weitzman said.

“I know that,” Jones replied.

Jones’ lawyers contend that his contracts entitle him to significant proceeds from “This Is It,” the backstage concert film released after Jackson’s death, as well as those from two Cirque du Soleil shows. The attorneys also contend that Jones is owed a larger share from a Sony contract that was renegotiated after Jackson’s death.

Under questioning from his own lawyer, Mike McKool, Jones gave extensive reminiscences about his music career and his collaboration with Jackson. He testified that his relationship with Jackson was founded on “love, respect, and trust,” and that financial considerations rarely surfaced.

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“That never in my life crossed my mind — money and fame,” he said. “If that happens, God walks out of the room. If you try to sell Ciroc vodka, forget it.”

Under cross-examination, Weitzman played Jackson’s demo versions of “Workin’ Day and Night,” “Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough,” and “Beat It,” as well as the finished album versions of each song. Jones nodded his head in rhythm, and at one point raised his arm as if conducting musicians.

Weitzman’s point was that Jackson himself made major contributions to the sound of each song, which rankled Jones, who testified that producers often take the blame for failures while artists get credit for hits.

“I believed in Michael like my own son,” he testified. “I spent more time with him than his family. They weren’t in the studio.”

Weitzman repeatedly noted that he is representing Jackson’s three children, who are the beneficiaries of the estate, and asked if Jones would sue Jackson if he were still alive.

“I’m not suing Michael, I’m suing y’all,” Jones said, noting that the estate’s lawyers have been handsomely paid. Another attorney for the estate testified earlier that the executors have received about $50 million in fees since Jackson’s death.

When Weitzman raised the children again, Jones rebutted, “I got children, too.”

PeteSilas said:

cold motherfucker

Goddess4Real said:

Quincy Jones Testifies Against Michael Jackson Estate: ‘I Was Cheated Out of a Lot of Money’ http://variety.com/2017/b...202501533/

Quincy Jones took the witness stand on Thursday, telling jurors he was “cheated out of a lot of money” by Michael Jackson’s estate.

Jones’ lawyers have alleged that the veteran producer is owed $30 million in revenues that have flowed to Jackson’s estate since the singer’s death in 2009. Jones, 84, has been touring in Europe for most of the trial, which has been underway in Los Angles Superior Court for two weeks. He entered the courtroom Thursday in a wheelchair.

At issue is the interpretation of two contracts for the albums “Off the Wall,” “Thriller,” and “Bad.” Jones testified that he left such details to lawyers and never read the actual agreements.

Instead, in often rambling testimony, Jones articulated a basic principle that he deserves to be paid for any use of songs from the albums.

Related

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“If we made the record, we deserve to get paid,” he said. “It’s that simple.”

An attorney for Jackson’s estate, Howard Weitzman, tried to get Jones to concede that he is entitled to a share of album sales but not to licensing revenues for the Jackson recordings.

“That’s a joke,” Jones answered.

As Weitzman pressed him, Jones added, “I don’t care what the agreement says. If I put my heart and love into making a record, I want to get paid. I don’t care what the paper says.”

At another point, Jones asked the lawyer: “You ever made a No. 1 record?”

“No,” Weitzman said.

“I know that,” Jones replied.

Jones’ lawyers contend that his contracts entitle him to significant proceeds from “This Is It,” the backstage concert film released after Jackson’s death, as well as those from two Cirque du Soleil shows. The attorneys also contend that Jones is owed a larger share from a Sony contract that was renegotiated after Jackson’s death.

Under questioning from his own lawyer, Mike McKool, Jones gave extensive reminiscences about his music career and his collaboration with Jackson. He testified that his relationship with Jackson was founded on “love, respect, and trust,” and that financial considerations rarely surfaced.

Related

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“That never in my life crossed my mind — money and fame,” he said. “If that happens, God walks out of the room. If you try to sell Ciroc vodka, forget it.”

Under cross-examination, Weitzman played Jackson’s demo versions of “Workin’ Day and Night,” “Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough,” and “Beat It,” as well as the finished album versions of each song. Jones nodded his head in rhythm, and at one point raised his arm as if conducting musicians.

Weitzman’s point was that Jackson himself made major contributions to the sound of each song, which rankled Jones, who testified that producers often take the blame for failures while artists get credit for hits.

“I believed in Michael like my own son,” he testified. “I spent more time with him than his family. They weren’t in the studio.”

Weitzman repeatedly noted that he is representing Jackson’s three children, who are the beneficiaries of the estate, and asked if Jones would sue Jackson if he were still alive.

“I’m not suing Michael, I’m suing y’all,” Jones said, noting that the estate’s lawyers have been handsomely paid. Another attorney for the estate testified earlier that the executors have received about $50 million in fees since Jackson’s death.

When Weitzman raised the children again, Jones rebutted, “I got children, too.”

Yuuup Quincy loves and respects MJ like a son, and that's why he is going after the $$$$$ with the help of a lawyer who called MJ a monster etc (when he was representing Wade Robson ).

Goddess4Real said:

PeteSilas said:

cold motherfucker

Yuuup Quincy loves and respects MJ like a son, and that's why he is going after the $$$$$ with the help of a lawyer who called MJ a monster etc (when he was representing Wade Robson ).

they outght to bring in tevin campbell as a character witness.

PeteSilas said:

didn't say that laura, but him talking like he don't know anything about money is ridiculous, him playing "i'm just about the music" isn't true, he's in court ain't he? I'm not knocking him for that, i'm sure he's owed something, i just ain't falling for the feeble old man act.

PeteSilas said:

SoulAlive said:

PeteSilas said:

didn't say that laura, but him talking like he don't know anything about money is ridiculous, him playing "i'm just about the music" isn't true, he's in court ain't he? I'm not knocking him for that, i'm sure he's owed something, i just ain't falling for the feeble old man act.

I agree.It's silly for him to sit there and try to play dumb.Like I said before,if he has any signed contracts/agreements which entitles him to more money,he needs to present it.Otherwise,just take the $3 million that they're offering and go home.

SoulAlive said:

I have tremendous respect and admiration for Quincy,but it just seems like he's acting kinda weird with this lawsuit

PeteSilas said:

Quincy is very senile. I am starting to believe this is classic obnoxious senile delusional Quincy just trying to stir the pot for money. His comments on the stand are foolish and ridiculous.

[Edited 7/22/17 23:58pm]

namepeace said:

It's amazing to see how contemptuous MJ fans can be of the producer who helped make MJ the icon he was, is and will be.

Like you all wouldn't want your royalties if you were in his shoes.

Let the judge and jury sort it out.

Agreed.

Seriously? As if he needs the money!

.

Leave Prince alone!

amit1234 said:

Does anyone else get a creepy vibe from Quincy? Old age certainly has a way of stripping certain people of their former glory and revealing the true character that was underneath the whole time.

i don't necessarily doubt the rumors of him and tevin or even michael for that matter. Look how Tevin turned out. there was some guy on one of those stupid, yackity morning shows that said quincy tried to get him alone in a room at some party. People aren't what they want people to believe, just look at cosby.

PeteSilas said:

amit1234 said:

Does anyone else get a creepy vibe from Quincy? Old age certainly has a way of stripping certain people of their former glory and revealing the true character that was underneath the whole time.

i don't necessarily doubt the rumors of him and tevin or even michael for that matter. Look how Tevin turned out. there was some guy on one of those stupid, yackity morning shows that said quincy tried to get him alone in a room at some party. People aren't what they want people to believe, just look at cosby.

Oohhh,

So now Quincy Jones is a molester

But when King of Pop fans come across innuendos, lawsuits, of impropriety towards children by Michael Jackson (which I dont believe he molested kids), fans get ready to hop on a crusade

The double standard is unreal

it wouldn't surprise me is all i'm saying. happens all the time in hollywierd.

Scorp said:

PeteSilas said:

i don't necessarily doubt the rumors of him and tevin or even michael for that matter. Look how Tevin turned out. there was some guy on one of those stupid, yackity morning shows that said quincy tried to get him alone in a room at some party. People aren't what they want people to believe, just look at cosby.

Oohhh,

So now Quincy Jones is a molester

But when King of Pop fans come across innuendos, lawsuits, of impropriety towards children by Michael Jackson (which I dont believe he molested kids), fans get ready to hop on a crusade

The double standard is unreal

Scorp said:

PeteSilas said:

i don't necessarily doubt the rumors of him and tevin or even michael for that matter. Look how Tevin turned out. there was some guy on one of those stupid, yackity morning shows that said quincy tried to get him alone in a room at some party. People aren't what they want people to believe, just look at cosby.

Oohhh,

So now Quincy Jones is a molester

But when King of Pop fans come across innuendos, lawsuits, of impropriety towards children by Michael Jackson (which I dont believe he molested kids), fans get ready to hop on a crusade

The double standard is unreal

.

What burns me up is how these people come out with these allegations after the fact, i.e., Michael Jackson; people just want to get money from his estate, and try to tarnish his legacy. Michael was so wronged on so many levels, I can't even!!

PeteSilas said:

amit1234 said:

Does anyone else get a creepy vibe from Quincy? Old age certainly has a way of stripping certain people of their former glory and revealing the true character that was underneath the whole time.

i don't necessarily doubt the rumors of him and tevin or even michael for that matter. Look how Tevin turned out. there was some guy on one of those stupid, yackity morning shows that said quincy tried to get him alone in a room at some party. People aren't what they want people to believe, just look at cosby.

.

That is just beyond gross!!

Scorp said:

PeteSilas said:

i don't necessarily doubt the rumors of him and tevin or even michael for that matter. Look how Tevin turned out. there was some guy on one of those stupid, yackity morning shows that said quincy tried to get him alone in a room at some party. People aren't what they want people to believe, just look at cosby.

Oohhh,

So now Quincy Jones is a molester

But when King of Pop fans come across innuendos, lawsuits, of impropriety towards children by Michael Jackson (which I dont believe he molested kids), fans get ready to hop on a crusade

The double standard is unreal

There are stories that Q is gay and those have been going around for years.

laurarichardson said:

Scorp said:

Oohhh,

So now Quincy Jones is a molester

But when King of Pop fans come across innuendos, lawsuits, of impropriety towards children by Michael Jackson (which I dont believe he molested kids), fans get ready to hop on a crusade

The double standard is unreal

There are stories that Q is gay and those have been going around for years.

This is true.

laurarichardson said:

Scorp said:

Oohhh,

So now Quincy Jones is a molester

But when King of Pop fans come across innuendos, lawsuits, of impropriety towards children by Michael Jackson (which I dont believe he molested kids), fans get ready to hop on a crusade

The double standard is unreal

There are stories that Q is gay and those have been going around for years.

wait a minute though....wait a minute though....

double standards flying all over the place......

how can King of Pop fans talk about a Quincy Jones and supposed stories/rumors/innuendo and overllook the reality that Michael faced two rounds of allegations during his career.......I can't comprehend that....

before any KOP fan overreacts, I don't believe MJ committed those acts he was accused of.......and in over 50 years, the stories about Quincy Jones and whatever has been said (mainly people posting stuff on social media) has never been substantiated