Derek1984 said:

bboy87 said:

If I remember correctly, Barnes said Buffalo Bill, Make or Break and a few others are practically complete.

The In The Studio with MJ seminar had him, Brad Buxer, Michael Prince, and a few others all as guests together and they all apparently said the estate hasn't contacted them to help them on projects, which I think isn't smart

Buffalo Bill has to be complete. It could've been on Victory, but for whatever reason, he held it back. It was worked on for BAD as well. I thought Barnes said Make or Break didn't have much vocals on it.

Also, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think John Barnes was ever at one of those seminars with Brad. I even mentioned Barnes to Brad a couple years ago and Brad didn't sound like he's seen Barnes for a while. Matt Forger has been at the seminars and would be the best person to talk to. I've just never caught him yet.

He was at one a few years back (I think 2014 or 2015) There was a picture with him and some of the other collaborators. It was the one when Steve Porcaro was a guest and talked about how the estate wanted his permission to release Chicago 1945...but to remix it SMH

John also said Alright Now was done in '84 and then later given to Ralph Tresvant. They did Do You Know Where Your Children Are during that same period.

An album full of fakes in auction, really?

214 said:

An album full of fakes in auction, really?

They're also auctioning a "best dad in the world" statue his kids gave to him

bboy87 said:

214 said:

An album full of fakes in auction, really?

They're also auctioning a "best dad in the world" statue his kids gave to him

bboy87 said:

214 said:

An album full of fakes in auction, really?

They're also auctioning a "best dad in the world" statue his kids gave to him

That's lovely, but his kids should have that in their hands, anyone else.

bboy87 said:

Derek1984 said:

Buffalo Bill has to be complete. It could've been on Victory, but for whatever reason, he held it back. It was worked on for BAD as well. I thought Barnes said Make or Break didn't have much vocals on it.

Also, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think John Barnes was ever at one of those seminars with Brad. I even mentioned Barnes to Brad a couple years ago and Brad didn't sound like he's seen Barnes for a while. Matt Forger has been at the seminars and would be the best person to talk to. I've just never caught him yet.

He was at one a few years back (I think 2014 or 2015) There was a picture with him and some of the other collaborators. It was the one when Steve Porcaro was a guest and talked about how the estate wanted his permission to release Chicago 1945...but to remix it SMH

John also said Alright Now was done in '84 and then later given to Ralph Tresvant. They did Do You Know Where Your Children Are during that same period.

Alright Now is kind of weak and I could see why MJ passed it on but would still love to hear his version.

There's also the Jackson's outtakes.. That Girl, Slipped Away... I wonder who has those

Derek1984 said:

bboy87 said:

He was at one a few years back (I think 2014 or 2015) There was a picture with him and some of the other collaborators. It was the one when Steve Porcaro was a guest and talked about how the estate wanted his permission to release Chicago 1945...but to remix it SMH

John also said Alright Now was done in '84 and then later given to Ralph Tresvant. They did Do You Know Where Your Children Are during that same period.

Alright Now is kind of weak and I could see why MJ passed it on but would still love to hear his version.

There's also the Jackson's outtakes.. That Girl, Slipped Away... I wonder who has those

I love Alright Now

I have a soft spot for the 1983-1986 material. I think that was one of Michael's most creative periods. The demos and outtakes we've heard from that period are great IMO

Cheater

Al Capone

Do You Know Where Your Children Are

Don't Be Messin' Around

I'm So Blue

Streetwalker

Fly Away

We Are Here To Change The World

Loving You

There Must Be More To Life Than This

Abortion Papers

Free

Scared of The Moon

bboy87 said:

Streetwalker

Fly Away

YES!

bboy87 said:

mjscarousal said:

^ YES

This will only expand his legacy to more new generations.

[Edited 7/11/17 23:42pm]

!$#&!!!#&* I miss this guy. Greatest entertainer the world has ever known. His highs were higher than any other highs and his lows were higher than most other's highs.

homesquid said:

mjscarousal said:

^ YES

This will only expand his legacy to more new generations.

[Edited 7/11/17 23:42pm]

!$#&!!!#&* I miss this guy. Greatest entertainer the world has ever known. His highs were higher than any other highs and his lows were higher than most other's highs.

Yea, I miss him too

thedoorkeeper said:

bboy87 said:

Most of those songs have leaked and let's just say...they're of "dubious origin"

Many fans don't believe they're really Michael.

You have the words dubious origin in quotes - what source are you quoting that from?

That's how I see them, so maybe I shouldn't have used the quotations.

There's actually a lawsuit going on about the songs

http://www.damienshields.com/mj-fan-sues-sony-estate-cascio-porte-over-fake-songs/

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/07/01/sony-music-tricked-michael-jackson-fans-buy-fake-cds/

bboy87 said:

Derek1984 said:

Alright Now is kind of weak and I could see why MJ passed it on but would still love to hear his version.

There's also the Jackson's outtakes.. That Girl, Slipped Away... I wonder who has those

I love Alright Now

I have a soft spot for the 1983-1986 material. I think that was one of Michael's most creative periods. The demos and outtakes we've heard from that period are great IMO

Cheater

Al Capone

Do You Know Where Your Children Are

Don't Be Messin' Around

I'm So Blue

Streetwalker

Fly Away

We Are Here To Change The World

Loving You

There Must Be More To Life Than This

Abortion Papers

Free

Scared of The Moon

These are good, you forgot Price Of Fame and Monkey Business.

Venice: Michael Jackson Estate, John Landis Unveil ‘Thriller’ Video in 3-D
Nick Vivarelli | September 4, 2017 | Variety

VENICE, Italy – The hotly anticipated 3-D version of the 1983 game-changing “Thriller” short directed by John Landis world-premiered Monday at the Venice Film Festival, where Landis and Michael Jackson estate co-executor John Branca called it a preamble to bigger announcements regarding upcoming Jackson legacy projects.

“Now we have ‘Thriller’ 3-D, and two more announcements are coming up in the next couple of weeks,” Branca said in an interview with Variety, declining to elaborate further. “Michael had an expression: ‘The quality goes in before the name goes on.’ So we are not ready to announce them yet.”

Asked if there may be an album coming of unreleased recordings from the vaults, Branca said: “I don’t foresee us releasing any more unreleased music for quite some time.” But he added: “That doesn’t mean there won’t be interesting [new] record releases in the very near future.”

Landis recalled that one of the most surreal things about making the zombie-ridden “Thriller” video was Jackson’s friends.

“He introduced me to Spanky Mc Farland [of “The Little Rascals”] and to Marlon Brando,” Landis said. He went on to recount the most surprising encounter he made on the “Thriller” shoot.

“We were shooting the cemetery scene in a meat-packing plant in a bad part of L.A….Mike asked to see me, so I stepped up to his Winnebago. I knocked, and he said: ‘John, do you know Mrs. Onassis?’ I was, like, what? It was just the last person I expected!”

Landis said at first he thought the new 3-D conversion would be merely a gimmick, and was keen about the project primarily because it would allow the negative to be restored. But in the process of doing the conversion, he realized that 3-D “really enhances it, especially the dance” aspect of the video. The short has not been re-edited or re-cut, but the sound has been enhanced.

How and when the 3-D “Thriller” short will be released is still being kept under wraps. However, Landis assured that it would be a “cinematic experience.”

The original 14-minute short redefined the traditional music video when it opened at the Avco Theatre in Los Angeles in 1983 for a sold-out three-week run.

The Venice world premiere of “Thriller” in 3-D is being accompanied by a restored version of Jerry Kramer-directed “Making of Michael Jackson’s ‘Thriller'” documentary, shown in a theater for the first time. Plans for the reissue of this powerful piece, which includes Jackson family home movies, are also currently under wraps.

And yet Ghosts (1996) gets no love

http://variety.com/2017/music/news/mysterious-michael-jackson-scream-project-coming-sept-29-1202547190/

What in the sam hell goin' on?

Goddess4Real said:

And yet Ghosts (1996) gets no love

Indeed, it's not fair, but Ghosts is not as groundbreakin as Thriller was.

motownlover said:

Bboy, how small do you think the chances are on songs such as "cant get your weight of off me and throwin your live away to see a release...? [Edited 9/6/17 13:12pm]

WHat's that? isn't it Throwin Your Life Away?

motownlover said:

Bboy, how small do you think the chances are on songs such as "cant get your weight of off me and throwin your live away to see a release...? [Edited 9/6/17 13:12pm]

WHat's that? isn't it Throwin Your Life Away?

motownlover said:

Bboy, how small do you think the chances are on songs such as "cant get your weight of off me and throwin your live away to see a release...? [Edited 9/6/17 13:12pm]

From what I checked out online, the estate had a remix of "Throwing Your Life Away" done in 2010 (probably for the Michael album) and Can't Get Your Weight Off Me is done from what Michael Prince said on a MJ podcast.

Since songs seem to finished and because Rodney Jerkins worked produced CGYWOM and he's done business with them, I'd say there's a chance at some point. The size of that chance? Can't say... (I'm really interested in the 1976-1985 and 2003-2009 unreleased material)

[Edited 9/7/17 0:09am]

MickyDolenz said:

Venice: Michael Jackson Estate, John Landis Unveil ‘Thriller’ Video in 3-D
Nick Vivarelli | September 4, 2017 | Variety

VENICE, Italy – The hotly anticipated 3-D version of the 1983 game-changing “Thriller” short directed by John Landis world-premiered Monday at the Venice Film Festival, where Landis and Michael Jackson estate co-executor John Branca called it a preamble to bigger announcements regarding upcoming Jackson legacy projects.

“Now we have ‘Thriller’ 3-D, and two more announcements are coming up in the next couple of weeks,” Branca said in an interview with Variety, declining to elaborate further. “Michael had an expression: ‘The quality goes in before the name goes on.’ So we are not ready to announce them yet.”

Asked if there may be an album coming of unreleased recordings from the vaults, Branca said: “I don’t foresee us releasing any more unreleased music for quite some time.” But he added: “That doesn’t mean there won’t be interesting [new] record releases in the very near future.”

Landis recalled that one of the most surreal things about making the zombie-ridden “Thriller” video was Jackson’s friends.

“He introduced me to Spanky Mc Farland [of “The Little Rascals”] and to Marlon Brando,” Landis said. He went on to recount the most surprising encounter he made on the “Thriller” shoot.

“We were shooting the cemetery scene in a meat-packing plant in a bad part of L.A….Mike asked to see me, so I stepped up to his Winnebago. I knocked, and he said: ‘John, do you know Mrs. Onassis?’ I was, like, what? It was just the last person I expected!”

Landis said at first he thought the new 3-D conversion would be merely a gimmick, and was keen about the project primarily because it would allow the negative to be restored. But in the process of doing the conversion, he realized that 3-D “really enhances it, especially the dance” aspect of the video. The short has not been re-edited or re-cut, but the sound has been enhanced.

How and when the 3-D “Thriller” short will be released is still being kept under wraps. However, Landis assured that it would be a “cinematic experience.”

The original 14-minute short redefined the traditional music video when it opened at the Avco Theatre in Los Angeles in 1983 for a sold-out three-week run.

The Venice world premiere of “Thriller” in 3-D is being accompanied by a restored version of Jerry Kramer-directed “Making of Michael Jackson’s ‘Thriller'” documentary, shown in a theater for the first time. Plans for the reissue of this powerful piece, which includes Jackson family home movies, are also currently under wraps.

This is a really good idea.I can't wait to see the "Thriller" video in 3-D

a crazy thought: imagine an episode of 'The Walking Dead' where the zombies (and maybe one major character) break out in the "zombie dance" from the video....LMAO....

And the next one expecting a payout. Sickening.

http://www.dailymail.co.u...state.html


Seriously, what is wrong with these people? Expecing a 4 day job to set them for life. It's not like they didn't get paid, 35 years ago, when they actually performed the work.

[Edited 9/7/17 1:33am]

^^ didn't she already sue before and receieved a payment? Exactly how much money does she think she is owed?! smh

She claims that she is "living below the poverty line"...lol...why doesn't she simply do what everyone does to make money: work! What a concept,huh?

SoulAlive said:

She claims that she is "living below the poverty line"...lol...why doesn't she simply do what everyone does to make money: work! What a concept,huh?

Duh. Because she's an Modell/Actress. Seriously, why is so much emphasis put on these stupid people, thinking they are something better. Everybody has to go to work every fucking day to make a living. But these fuckers believe they should get paid until all eternity for once rendered work. It gets especially comical in a case of a talentless hoe like her, who basically was bobbing along a street, fumbling through 4 lines, someone else had to write for her.

SoulAlive said:

MickyDolenz said:

Venice: Michael Jackson Estate, John Landis Unveil ‘Thriller’ Video in 3-D
Nick Vivarelli | September 4, 2017 | Variety

VENICE, Italy – The hotly anticipated 3-D version of the 1983 game-changing “Thriller” short directed by John Landis world-premiered Monday at the Venice Film Festival, where Landis and Michael Jackson estate co-executor John Branca called it a preamble to bigger announcements regarding upcoming Jackson legacy projects.

“Now we have ‘Thriller’ 3-D, and two more announcements are coming up in the next couple of weeks,” Branca said in an interview with Variety, declining to elaborate further. “Michael had an expression: ‘The quality goes in before the name goes on.’ So we are not ready to announce them yet.”

Asked if there may be an album coming of unreleased recordings from the vaults, Branca said: “I don’t foresee us releasing any more unreleased music for quite some time.” But he added: “That doesn’t mean there won’t be interesting [new] record releases in the very near future.”

Landis recalled that one of the most surreal things about making the zombie-ridden “Thriller” video was Jackson’s friends.

“He introduced me to Spanky Mc Farland [of “The Little Rascals”] and to Marlon Brando,” Landis said. He went on to recount the most surprising encounter he made on the “Thriller” shoot.

“We were shooting the cemetery scene in a meat-packing plant in a bad part of L.A….Mike asked to see me, so I stepped up to his Winnebago. I knocked, and he said: ‘John, do you know Mrs. Onassis?’ I was, like, what? It was just the last person I expected!”

Landis said at first he thought the new 3-D conversion would be merely a gimmick, and was keen about the project primarily because it would allow the negative to be restored. But in the process of doing the conversion, he realized that 3-D “really enhances it, especially the dance” aspect of the video. The short has not been re-edited or re-cut, but the sound has been enhanced.

How and when the 3-D “Thriller” short will be released is still being kept under wraps. However, Landis assured that it would be a “cinematic experience.”

The original 14-minute short redefined the traditional music video when it opened at the Avco Theatre in Los Angeles in 1983 for a sold-out three-week run.

The Venice world premiere of “Thriller” in 3-D is being accompanied by a restored version of Jerry Kramer-directed “Making of Michael Jackson’s ‘Thriller'” documentary, shown in a theater for the first time. Plans for the reissue of this powerful piece, which includes Jackson family home movies, are also currently under wraps.

This is a really good idea.I can't wait to see the "Thriller" video in 3-D

a crazy thought: imagine an episode of 'The Walking Dead' where the zombies (and maybe one major character) break out in the "zombie dance" from the video....LMAO....

It would be soo cool.