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Scorp

Bruno Mars 24K Magic...The Art of the Interpolation

I really dont listen to radio for music anymore, ain't nothin to listen to 95 percent of the time and the other five percent, if that song sounds good, that song is an interpolation of a jam from not years ago, but decades ago. Interpolation is a different approach from sampling, but none the less, its still done so with a similar goal in mind.

Perfect example is 24K Magic where at the very least, features the interpolation of 4 classic r&b classics from the 1980s and fuses the sounds of all four to serve as the structure of its synthesizer arrangements and baseline


1. Starpoint's 1985 jam "Object of My Desire".....he definitely hit that one up big time

2. Midnight Starr's 198-1984 jam "Party on the Dance Floor"...the rhythm arrangement helped with springing up those adlibs

3. One Way's 1980 jam "Cutie Pie" to interpolate allot of the ambiance that was featured throughout that song

4. The System's 1983 jan "You're in my System" for allot of the bridging

Then you here elements of Roger Troutman and Zapp


Bruno Mars likes interpolating the music of not solo r&b artists of that time but allot of the underated r&b groups of that time since he has a large entourage around him.

Thus the art of the interpolation
[Edited 3/25/17 14:17pm]
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Reply #1 posted 03/25/17 2:47pm

Tontoman22

Scorp said:

I really dont listen to radio for music anymore, ain't nothin to listen to 95 percent of the time and the other five percent, if that song sounds good, that song is an interpolation of a jam from not years ago, but decades ago. Interpolation is a different approach from sampling, but none the less, its still done so with a similar goal in mind. Perfect example is 24K Magic where at the very least, features the interpolation of 4 classic r&b classics from the 1980s and fuses the sounds of all four to serve as the structure of its synthesizer arrangements and baseline 1. Starpoint's 1985 jam "Object of My Desire"......he definitely hit that one up big time 2. Midnight Starr's 198-1984 jam "Party on the Dance Floor"...the rhythm arrangement helped with springing up those adlibs 3. One Way's 1980 jam "Cutie Pie" to interpolate allot of the ambiance that was featured throughout that song 4. The System's 1983 jan "You're in my System" for allot of the bridging Then you here elements of Roger Troutman and Zapp Bruno Mars likes interpolating the music of not solo r&b artists of that time but allot of the underated r&b groups of that time since he has a large entourage around him. Thus the art of the interpolation [Edited 3/25/17 14:17pm]

First time I heard the song.... it reminded me of Kool and the Gang. But now that you mention OOMD- StarPoint, definitely... you are right.

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Reply #2 posted 03/25/17 2:51pm

Scorp

Tontoman22 said:



Scorp said:


I really dont listen to radio for music anymore, ain't nothin to listen to 95 percent of the time and the other five percent, if that song sounds good, that song is an interpolation of a jam from not years ago, but decades ago. Interpolation is a different approach from sampling, but none the less, its still done so with a similar goal in mind. Perfect example is 24K Magic where at the very least, features the interpolation of 4 classic r&b classics from the 1980s and fuses the sounds of all four to serve as the structure of its synthesizer arrangements and baseline 1. Starpoint's 1985 jam "Object of My Desire".....he definitely hit that one up big time 2. Midnight Starr's 198-1984 jam "Party on the Dance Floor"...the rhythm arrangement helped with springing up those adlibs 3. One Way's 1980 jam "Cutie Pie" to interpolate allot of the ambiance that was featured throughout that song 4. The System's 1983 jan "You're in my System" for allot of the bridging Then you here elements of Roger Troutman and Zapp Bruno Mars likes interpolating the music of not solo r&b artists of that time but allot of the underated r&b groups of that time since he has a large entourage around him. Thus the art of the interpolation [Edited 3/25/17 14:17pm]

First time I heard the song.... it reminded me of Kool and the Gang. But now that you mention OOMD- StarPoint, definitely... you are right.





Yes, absolutely

He definitely hit that one up and I'm sure he's listened to classic jams by the SOS Band who had a ton of them
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Reply #3 posted 03/25/17 6:41pm

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I agree with everything you said, I think the point you made is exactly what the nay sayers should understand when it comes to Bruno Mars.

He's the perfect master of interpolating, and creating a song that sounds like a very specific era, but without actually ripping off the songs note by note.

Locked Out of Heaven's chords don't sound like any other Police chords in terms of shape or tempo, but they are similar in sound, so is 24K Magic and many of the songs you mentioned, he probably focues on the instruments he uses for the recording. He recently said than Warren G rented him a synthesizer, he also worked with Babyface, Greg Phillipganes played the solo on Versace. He worked with T Pain to create that 2004 R&B feel, basically every era of R&B, that's pretty impresive, I don't know how you can do that without coming off as derivative, but even Bruno he manages to create some differences.

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Reply #4 posted 03/25/17 6:51pm

jaawwnn

Scorp said:

I really dont listen to radio for music anymore, ain't nothin to listen to 95 percent of the time and the other five percent, if that song sounds good, that song is an interpolation of a jam from not years ago, but decades ago. Interpolation is a different approach from sampling, but none the less, its still done so with a similar goal in mind. Perfect example is 24K Magic where at the very least, features the interpolation of 4 classic r&b classics from the 1980s and fuses the sounds of all four to serve as the structure of its synthesizer arrangements and baseline 1. Starpoint's 1985 jam "Object of My Desire"......he definitely hit that one up big time 2. Midnight Starr's 198-1984 jam "Party on the Dance Floor"...the rhythm arrangement helped with springing up those adlibs 3. One Way's 1980 jam "Cutie Pie" to interpolate allot of the ambiance that was featured throughout that song 4. The System's 1983 jan "You're in my System" for allot of the bridging Then you here elements of Roger Troutman and Zapp Bruno Mars likes interpolating the music of not solo r&b artists of that time but allot of the underated r&b groups of that time since he has a large entourage around him. Thus the art of the interpolation [Edited 3/25/17 14:17pm]

You've left out The Message, still the first thing that occurs to me when I hear it.

I like Bruno a lot but at the moment the ingredients haven't synthesized enough together; it's a good pastiche of, and tribute to, the influences but it's not its own thing yet. He's writing good songs in the style of other people but he has no sound of his own.

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Reply #5 posted 03/25/17 7:19pm

Scorp

jaawwnn said:

Scorp said:

I really dont listen to radio for music anymore, ain't nothin to listen to 95 percent of the time and the other five percent, if that song sounds good, that song is an interpolation of a jam from not years ago, but decades ago. Interpolation is a different approach from sampling, but none the less, its still done so with a similar goal in mind. Perfect example is 24K Magic where at the very least, features the interpolation of 4 classic r&b classics from the 1980s and fuses the sounds of all four to serve as the structure of its synthesizer arrangements and baseline 1. Starpoint's 1985 jam "Object of My Desire"......he definitely hit that one up big time 2. Midnight Starr's 198-1984 jam "Party on the Dance Floor"...the rhythm arrangement helped with springing up those adlibs 3. One Way's 1980 jam "Cutie Pie" to interpolate allot of the ambiance that was featured throughout that song 4. The System's 1983 jan "You're in my System" for allot of the bridging Then you here elements of Roger Troutman and Zapp Bruno Mars likes interpolating the music of not solo r&b artists of that time but allot of the underated r&b groups of that time since he has a large entourage around him. Thus the art of the interpolation [Edited 3/25/17 14:17pm]

You've left out The Message, still the first thing that occurs to me when I hear it.

I like Bruno a lot but at the moment the ingredients haven't synthesized enough together; it's a good pastiche of, and tribute to, the influences but it's not its own thing yet. He's writing good songs in the style of other people but he has no sound of his own.

very true......and that's the dilemna most of today's contemporary artists are facing......

and the thing is, when someone is showcasing his/her own unique way of expression....we'll be able to see it and feel it....it will be right there

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Reply #6 posted 03/26/17 11:21am

RJOrion

"interpolating" = "biting" = no bueno
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Reply #7 posted 03/26/17 11:23am

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Originality is mostly in indy rock which nobody listens to.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #8 posted 03/26/17 5:45pm

214

A tough call, perhaps he's great at what he does, even if it's just... well nothing new. The only thing i know for sure is that i love his shit, basically because he seems to enjoy it thoroughly. Specially when it comes to live performance.

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Reply #9 posted 04/01/17 8:18pm

206Michelle

I'm listening to 24K Magic and I love2 love2 love2 it. It's a really good album. Listening to Calling All My Lovelies right now, and his vocals on that song are sublime. I love his voice. He mixes R&B, pop, and dance music really well. He has great dance moves and he plays instruments. Loved his Super Bowl performance last year and Uptown Funk was one of my favourite songs of 2015. I have tickets to his Philly concert in October, and I'm really looking forward to it.

[Edited 4/1/17 20:28pm]

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Reply #10 posted 04/02/17 2:31am

Shawy89

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206Michelle said:

I'm listening to 24K Magic and I love2 love2 love2 it. It's a really good album. Listening to Calling All My Lovelies right now, and his vocals on that song are sublime. I love his voice. He mixes R&B, pop, and dance music really well. He has great dance moves and he plays instruments. Loved his Super Bowl performance last year and Uptown Funk was one of my favourite songs of 2015. I have tickets to his Philly concert in October, and I'm really looking forward to it.

[Edited 4/1/17 20:28pm]



Oh man, this tour is pure fayaaaa!!!!!
I saw some clips and the whole stage visuals, the whole show is pretty damn luxurious, there's everything from choreography to guitar solos. He's really on the top of his game. I'm seeing him in Paris in a few weeks. cool
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Reply #11 posted 04/02/17 6:53am

206Michelle

Calling All My Lovelies is my favorite track on the album. That song is FIRE! It's my new jam! Speaking of interpolation, CAML reminds me a little bit of another song, but I can't think of the other song.

[Edited 4/2/17 6:55am]

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Reply #12 posted 04/02/17 8:23am

mjscarousal

206Michelle said:

Calling All My Lovelies is my favorite track on the album. That song is FIRE! It's my new jam! Speaking of interpolation, CAML reminds me a little bit of another song, but I can't think of the other song.

[Edited 4/2/17 6:55am]

cool cool cool cool cool This is my favorite song on the album. I respect, admire and love Bruno Mars for trying to make quality fun pop music in a industry generation that makes trashy pop music and that is all I will say about this thread.

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Reply #13 posted 04/02/17 10:50am

babynoz

Shawy89 said:

I agree with everything you said, I think the point you made is exactly what the nay sayers should understand when it comes to Bruno Mars.

He's the perfect master of interpolating, and creating a song that sounds like a very specific era, but without actually ripping off the songs note by note.

Locked Out of Heaven's chords don't sound like any other Police chords in terms of shape or tempo, but they are similar in sound, so is 24K Magic and many of the songs you mentioned, he probably focues on the instruments he uses for the recording. He recently said than Warren G rented him a synthesizer, he also worked with Babyface, Greg Phillipganes played the solo on Versace. He worked with T Pain to create that 2004 R&B feel, basically every era of R&B, that's pretty impresive, I don't know how you can do that without coming off as derivative, but even Bruno he manages to create some differences.



Spot on! That is the very reason I am not worried about Bruno. He pulls it off where others have tried and failed.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #14 posted 04/02/17 10:56am

babynoz

jaawwnn said:

Scorp said:

I really dont listen to radio for music anymore, ain't nothin to listen to 95 percent of the time and the other five percent, if that song sounds good, that song is an interpolation of a jam from not years ago, but decades ago. Interpolation is a different approach from sampling, but none the less, its still done so with a similar goal in mind. Perfect example is 24K Magic where at the very least, features the interpolation of 4 classic r&b classics from the 1980s and fuses the sounds of all four to serve as the structure of its synthesizer arrangements and baseline 1. Starpoint's 1985 jam "Object of My Desire"......he definitely hit that one up big time 2. Midnight Starr's 198-1984 jam "Party on the Dance Floor"...the rhythm arrangement helped with springing up those adlibs 3. One Way's 1980 jam "Cutie Pie" to interpolate allot of the ambiance that was featured throughout that song 4. The System's 1983 jan "You're in my System" for allot of the bridging Then you here elements of Roger Troutman and Zapp Bruno Mars likes interpolating the music of not solo r&b artists of that time but allot of the underated r&b groups of that time since he has a large entourage around him. Thus the art of the interpolation [Edited 3/25/17 14:17pm]

You've left out The Message, still the first thing that occurs to me when I hear it.

I like Bruno a lot but at the moment the ingredients haven't synthesized enough together; it's a good pastiche of, and tribute to, the influences but it's not its own thing yet. He's writing good songs in the style of other people but he has no sound of his own.



Could you elaborate on the bolded? I'm not sure which song you are referring to?

I agree that he isn't quite there yet with his own sound, but I have every confidence that he will get there sooner rather than later. cool

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #15 posted 04/02/17 11:05am

babynoz

206Michelle said:

I'm listening to 24K Magic and I love2 love2 love2 it. It's a really good album. Listening to Calling All My Lovelies right now, and his vocals on that song are sublime. I love his voice. He mixes R&B, pop, and dance music really well. He has great dance moves and he plays instruments. Loved his Super Bowl performance last year and Uptown Funk was one of my favourite songs of 2015. I have tickets to his Philly concert in October, and I'm really looking forward to it.

[Edited 4/1/17 20:28pm]



I'm planning to see him in October too. I may be the oldest one there but lord willing Imma have me some damn fun that night. lol

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #16 posted 04/02/17 11:29am

Graycap23

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babynoz said:

Shawy89 said:

I agree with everything you said, I think the point you made is exactly what the nay sayers should understand when it comes to Bruno Mars.

He's the perfect master of interpolating, and creating a song that sounds like a very specific era, but without actually ripping off the songs note by note.

Locked Out of Heaven's chords don't sound like any other Police chords in terms of shape or tempo, but they are similar in sound, so is 24K Magic and many of the songs you mentioned, he probably focues on the instruments he uses for the recording. He recently said than Warren G rented him a synthesizer, he also worked with Babyface, Greg Phillipganes played the solo on Versace. He worked with T Pain to create that 2004 R&B feel, basically every era of R&B, that's pretty impresive, I don't know how you can do that without coming off as derivative, but even Bruno he manages to create some differences.



Spot on! That is the very reason I am not worried about Bruno. He pulls it off where others have tried and failed.

Actaully he doesn't pull it off........that is the problem.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #17 posted 04/02/17 11:34am

MotownSubdivis
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Graycap23 said:



babynoz said:




Shawy89 said:


I agree with everything you said, I think the point you made is exactly what the nay sayers should understand when it comes to Bruno Mars.



He's the perfect master of interpolating, and creating a song that sounds like a very specific era, but without actually ripping off the songs note by note.



Locked Out of Heaven's chords don't sound like any other Police chords in terms of shape or tempo, but they are similar in sound, so is 24K Magic and many of the songs you mentioned, he probably focues on the instruments he uses for the recording. He recently said than Warren G rented him a synthesizer, he also worked with Babyface, Greg Phillipganes played the solo on Versace. He worked with T Pain to create that 2004 R&B feel, basically every era of R&B, that's pretty impresive, I don't know how you can do that without coming off as derivative, but even Bruno he manages to create some differences.





Spot on! That is the very reason I am not worried about Bruno. He pulls it off where others have tried and failed.



Actaully he doesn't pull it off.....that is the problem.

Explain how he doesn't.
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Reply #18 posted 04/02/17 11:47am

Graycap23

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MotownSubdivision said:

Graycap23 said:

Actaully he doesn't pull it off........that is the problem.

Explain how he doesn't.

Simple.....that music doesn't sound good or speak to me in any way, shape or fashion.

Was that clear enough?

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Reply #19 posted 04/02/17 12:07pm

Scorp

I'm curious to know how many copies his latest album as sold

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Reply #20 posted 04/02/17 12:19pm

MotownSubdivis
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Graycap23 said:



MotownSubdivision said:


Graycap23 said:


Actaully he doesn't pull it off.....that is the problem.



Explain how he doesn't.

Simple.....that music doesn't sound good or speak to me in any way, shape or fashion.


Was that clear enough?

Yeah. So because you say so? Got it.
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Reply #21 posted 04/02/17 12:48pm

Graycap23

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MotownSubdivision said:

Graycap23 said:

Simple.....that music doesn't sound good or speak to me in any way, shape or fashion.

Was that clear enough?

Yeah. So because you say so? Got it.

Lol.......I'm speaking for MYSELF.....and I do say so.

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Reply #22 posted 04/02/17 12:56pm

MotownSubdivis
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Graycap23 said:



MotownSubdivision said:


Graycap23 said:


Simple.....that music doesn't sound good or speak to me in any way, shape or fashion.


Was that clear enough?



Yeah. So because you say so? Got it.

Lol.....I'm speaking for MYSELF.....and I do say so.


You still haven't explained how Bruno "doesn't pull it off".
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Reply #23 posted 04/02/17 1:27pm

214

This album is likely to get nomination for Album of The Year next year at the Grammy Ceremony, but to me it's not fair that his first album got a nomination and his second album did not; it's unfair because Unorthodox is a much better album than the first, for that matter is his best album.

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Reply #24 posted 04/02/17 1:46pm

jaawwnn

babynoz said:



jaawwnn said:




Scorp said:


I really dont listen to radio for music anymore, ain't nothin to listen to 95 percent of the time and the other five percent, if that song sounds good, that song is an interpolation of a jam from not years ago, but decades ago. Interpolation is a different approach from sampling, but none the less, its still done so with a similar goal in mind. Perfect example is 24K Magic where at the very least, features the interpolation of 4 classic r&b classics from the 1980s and fuses the sounds of all four to serve as the structure of its synthesizer arrangements and baseline 1. Starpoint's 1985 jam "Object of My Desire".....he definitely hit that one up big time 2. Midnight Starr's 198-1984 jam "Party on the Dance Floor"...the rhythm arrangement helped with springing up those adlibs 3. One Way's 1980 jam "Cutie Pie" to interpolate allot of the ambiance that was featured throughout that song 4. The System's 1983 jan "You're in my System" for allot of the bridging Then you here elements of Roger Troutman and Zapp Bruno Mars likes interpolating the music of not solo r&b artists of that time but allot of the underated r&b groups of that time since he has a large entourage around him. Thus the art of the interpolation [Edited 3/25/17 14:17pm]

You've left out The Message, still the first thing that occurs to me when I hear it.

I like Bruno a lot but at the moment the ingredients haven't synthesized enough together; it's a good pastiche of, and tribute to, the influences but it's not its own thing yet. He's writing good songs in the style of other people but he has no sound of his own.





Could you elaborate on the bolded? I'm not sure which song you are referring to?

I agree that he isn't quite there yet with his own sound, but I have every confidence that he will get there sooner rather than later. cool



The Message by Grandmaster Flash, I don't think there can by any doubt the backing track is influenced by it.
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Reply #25 posted 04/02/17 2:35pm

Scorp

jaawwnn said:

babynoz said:



jaawwnn said:




Scorp said:


I really dont listen to radio for music anymore, ain't nothin to listen to 95 percent of the time and the other five percent, if that song sounds good, that song is an interpolation of a jam from not years ago, but decades ago. Interpolation is a different approach from sampling, but none the less, its still done so with a similar goal in mind. Perfect example is 24K Magic where at the very least, features the interpolation of 4 classic r&b classics from the 1980s and fuses the sounds of all four to serve as the structure of its synthesizer arrangements and baseline 1. Starpoint's 1985 jam "Object of My Desire".....he definitely hit that one up big time 2. Midnight Starr's 198-1984 jam "Party on the Dance Floor"...the rhythm arrangement helped with springing up those adlibs 3. One Way's 1980 jam "Cutie Pie" to interpolate allot of the ambiance that was featured throughout that song 4. The System's 1983 jan "You're in my System" for allot of the bridging Then you here elements of Roger Troutman and Zapp Bruno Mars likes interpolating the music of not solo r&b artists of that time but allot of the underated r&b groups of that time since he has a large entourage around him. Thus the art of the interpolation [Edited 3/25/17 14:17pm]

You've left out The Message, still the first thing that occurs to me when I hear it.

I like Bruno a lot but at the moment the ingredients haven't synthesized enough together; it's a good pastiche of, and tribute to, the influences but it's not its own thing yet. He's writing good songs in the style of other people but he has no sound of his own.





Could you elaborate on the bolded? I'm not sure which song you are referring to?

I agree that he isn't quite there yet with his own sound, but I have every confidence that he will get there sooner rather than later. cool



The Message by Grandmaster Flash, I don't think there can by any doubt the backing track is influenced by it.



Absolutely
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Reply #26 posted 04/02/17 2:58pm

206Michelle

214 said:

This album is likely to get nomination for Album of The Year next year at the Grammy Ceremony, but to me it's not fair that his first album got a nomination and his second album did not; it's unfair because Unorthodox is a much better album than the first, for that matter is his best album.

yes 24K Magic should definitely be nominated 4 Album of the Year.

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Reply #27 posted 04/02/17 3:30pm

heathilly

Everyone is well aware Bruno is the world greatest cover artist. They just all accept it and don't question it. Bruno is very middle of the road you'll see no one really hates him or likes him there's no strong held emotion attached to him he essentially has no real identity. Who is the Bruno mars behind the mask of other artist the world may never know.
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Reply #28 posted 04/02/17 3:37pm

Scorp

heathilly said:

Everyone is well aware Bruno is the world greatest cover artist. They just all accept it and don't question it. Bruno is very middle of the road you'll see no one really hates him or likes him there's no strong held emotion attached to him he essentially has no real identity. Who is the Bruno mars behind the mask of other artist the world may never know.

Thus, the art of the interpolator lol

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Reply #29 posted 04/02/17 4:00pm

Scorp

206Michelle said:

Calling All My Lovelies is my favorite track on the album. That song is FIRE! It's my new jam! Speaking of interpolation, CAML reminds me a little bit of another song, but I can't think of the other song.

[Edited 4/2/17 6:55am]

lol

lol lol

[Edited 4/2/17 16:00pm]

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