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Sorry grunge was a very faddish form of music, only mainstream 1992 - 1994. The death of Cobain saw the fad wear off at lightning pace. Dull morose crap anyway.

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And as for Cobain, morose drug addict, limited musical talent. He proved he was a complete Jackass when he took his own life for no good reason other than he did not want to be famous.

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Also the music really had no appeal to us people of colour, it was only fashionable with the white trash kids I remember.

Hmmm I always thought Nirvana was rappers fave grunge act back in the day.

I think Kurt's suicide did everything to curtail the lasting impact of the artform.

How can you get behind a movement in which it's lead figure was so disillusioned he commited suicide?

The music speaks for itself though.

Lots of great music from that era.

To me the LAST great era.

Adorecream said:

Sorry grunge was a very faddish form of music, only mainstream 1992 - 1994. The death of Cobain saw the fad wear off at lightning pace. Dull morose crap anyway.

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And as for Cobain, morose drug addict, limited musical talent. He proved he was a complete Jackass when he took his own life for no good reason other than he did not want to be famous.

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Also the music really had no appeal to us people of colour, it was only fashionable with the white trash kids I remember.

This was one of the most distasteful and disrespectfully ignorant posts I've read at the Org in a long time:



All pop music is "faddish" - what are you talking about? Beatle-mania is done. Blues-rock/rock n'
roll is done. Disco is done. Punk is done. New Wave is done. Alternative is done. New Jack
Swing is done. Neo-soul is done. Golden Age of hip hop is done. Minneapolis Sound is done.

Michael Jackson was a drug addict. And so was Prince. What's your point in highlighting Cobain's
addiction's issues?

He suicided as a result of depression and drug addiction and interpersonal difficulties and persisting
medical ailments. Framing his suicide as "not wanting to be famous" is coldhearted and mean.

I'm a Black American male and I liked Nirvana very much, so you're wrong about Cobain not
appealing to people of color; this is especially wrongheaded on your part since one of his touring
guitarists, Pat Smear, is a person of color.

CynicKill said:

How can you get behind a movement in which it's lead figure was so disillusioned he commited suicide?

Cobain's death didn't derail the grunge movement. The grunge movement was going to die anyways
even if he outlasted his demons.

Prince rode the wave for only about three or four or five years before he too came crashing back to
earth. This is pop music, y'all, so it's here today . . .

. . . and gone tomorrow. Look at Radiohead. Look at Michael Jackson. Look at the Beatles. Look
at Guns N Roses. Look at Puffy back in the late 90s. Hot shit for five years max before the public
loses interest and finds something else to jizz over.

Dasein said:

Adorecream said:

Sorry grunge was a very faddish form of music, only mainstream 1992 - 1994. The death of Cobain saw the fad wear off at lightning pace. Dull morose crap anyway.

.

And as for Cobain, morose drug addict, limited musical talent. He proved he was a complete Jackass when he took his own life for no good reason other than he did not want to be famous.

.

Also the music really had no appeal to us people of colour, it was only fashionable with the white trash kids I remember.

This was one of the most distasteful and disrespectfully ignorant posts I've read at the Org in a long time:



All pop music is "faddish" - what are you talking about? Beatle-mania is done. Blues-rock/rock n'
roll is done. Disco is done. Punk is done. New Wave is done. Alternative is done. New Jack
Swing is done. Neo-soul is done. Golden Age of hip hop is done. Minneapolis Sound is done.

Michael Jackson was a drug addict. And so was Prince. What's your point in highlighting Cobain's
addiction's issues?

He suicided as a result of depression and drug addiction and interpersonal difficulties and persisting
medical ailments. Framing his suicide as "not wanting to be famous" is coldhearted and mean.

I'm a Black American male and I liked Nirvana very much, so you're wrong about Cobain not
appealing to people of color; this is especially wrongheaded on your part since one of his touring
guitarists, Pat Smear, is a person of color.

You should know I oppose any type of noxious drug use and I am justified in saying your reasons for his death are crap. He was a spoilt petulant little brat, who could have not taken his own life and learned to join the ranks of the sensible.

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We had a rash of depressed, goth and emo kids take their lives after he did. Some people got really obsessed with Nirvana. I was at high school at the time in Form 7 (Our version of High School Senior - Grade 12) and the dux in our class wrote an essay in the school magazine analysing his death and at the end, said he loved the music of Nirvana and grunge in general, but felt his self imposed death was a complete and utter waste.

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I never got into that shit, I was too busy listening to positive and upbeat dance music which was becoming real big in 1993/94 and rediscovering disco, along with getting deeper and deeper into Prince at the time.

Adorecream said:

Sorry grunge was a very faddish form of music, only mainstream 1992 - 1994. The death of Cobain saw the fad wear off at lightning pace. Dull morose crap anyway.

.

And as for Cobain, morose drug addict, limited musical talent. He proved he was a complete Jackass when he took his own life for no good reason other than he did not want to be famous.

.

Also the music really had no appeal to us people of colour, it was only fashionable with the white trash kids I remember.

No need to slip into racism. That is not acceptable.


As for the "drug addict, limited musical talent", I thought it would have suited you to the ground, it describes MJ to a T.

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RicoN said:

Adorecream said:

Sorry grunge was a very faddish form of music, only mainstream 1992 - 1994. The death of Cobain saw the fad wear off at lightning pace. Dull morose crap anyway.

.

And as for Cobain, morose drug addict, limited musical talent. He proved he was a complete Jackass when he took his own life for no good reason other than he did not want to be famous.

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Also the music really had no appeal to us people of colour, it was only fashionable with the white trash kids I remember.

No need to slip into racism. That is not acceptable.


As for the "drug addict, limited musical talent", I trhoughtit would have suited yu to the ground, it describes MJ to a T.

Remember it ain't racism when it's against whites. You can say anything you like against white people (Men) just because (sarcasm).

Adorecream said:

Dasein said:

This was one of the most distasteful and disrespectfully ignorant posts I've read at the Org in a long time:



All pop music is "faddish" - what are you talking about? Beatle-mania is done. Blues-rock/rock n'
roll is done. Disco is done. Punk is done. New Wave is done. Alternative is done. New Jack
Swing is done. Neo-soul is done. Golden Age of hip hop is done. Minneapolis Sound is done.

Michael Jackson was a drug addict. And so was Prince. What's your point in highlighting Cobain's
addiction's issues?

He suicided as a result of depression and drug addiction and interpersonal difficulties and persisting
medical ailments. Framing his suicide as "not wanting to be famous" is coldhearted and mean.

I'm a Black American male and I liked Nirvana very much, so you're wrong about Cobain not
appealing to people of color; this is especially wrongheaded on your part since one of his touring
guitarists, Pat Smear, is a person of color.

You should know I oppose any type of noxious drug use and I am justified in saying your reasons for his death are crap. He was a spoilt petulant little brat, who could have not taken his own life and learned to join the ranks of the sensible.

.

We had a rash of depressed, goth and emo kids take their lives after he did. Some people got really obsessed with Nirvana. I was at high school at the time in Form 7 (Our version of High School Senior - Grade 12) and the dux in our class wrote an essay in the school magazine analysing his death and at the end, said he loved the music of Nirvana and grunge in general, but felt his self imposed death was a complete and utter waste.

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I never got into that shit, I was too busy listening to positive and upbeat dance music which was becoming real big in 1993/94 and rediscovering disco, along with getting deeper and deeper into Prince at the time.

Let's say you're a professional long distance runner who is adept at running marathons. But
one day, you severe your Achille's heel, making running impossible and walking difficult. As
your coach, if I berated you for not being to run the upcoming marathon, how would you feel?
You'd say: "Mutherfucker, I can't run it! It's impossible! Why are you being a dick towards me?"

This is the same thing with many addicts and those living with co-occurring mental health issues
like depression. Often, because of consistent drug use, the parts of an addicts's brain that is
responsible for making good, sound decisions is weakened by drug use. People who are living
with depression often can not make good, sound decisions because they simply cannot. So,
expecting all addicts to "join the ranks of the sensible" and then berating them because they
don't due to it being damn near impossible is just like the fucking asshole coach in my story
above. I would never excoriate a long distance runner with a severed Achille's heel for not being
able to run a marathon, and I would never do the same for a human being who was an addict
and depressed for suiciding.

Your post here, from a Prince fan, knowing that he died too because he was addicted to drugs, is
very, very, very disheartening, and reveals why Prince died. What do I mean by that? Our so-
ciety demonizes drug addicts. We make them feel like shit. And so instead of getting treatment,
they often feel stigmatized and abuse in private. But, if we were a more tolerant society who un-
derstood drug addiction and realized it was not an indication of some type of moral defect or
ethical decompensation but a public health issue, people would not feel ashamed to acknowledge
their substance abuse issues and receive treatment.

Prince died alone in that elevator, embarrassed because he didn't want to appear as he was not
able to "join the ranks of the sensible." Have a heart, Adore!

Dasein said:

Adorecream said:

Sorry grunge was a very faddish form of music, only mainstream 1992 - 1994. The death of Cobain saw the fad wear off at lightning pace. Dull morose crap anyway.

.

And as for Cobain, morose drug addict, limited musical talent. He proved he was a complete Jackass when he took his own life for no good reason other than he did not want to be famous.

.

Also the music really had no appeal to us people of colour, it was only fashionable with the white trash kids I remember.

This was one of the most distasteful and disrespectfully ignorant posts I've read at the Org in a long time:



All pop music is "faddish" - what are you talking about? Beatle-mania is done. Blues-rock/rock n'
roll is done. Disco is done. Punk is done. New Wave is done. Alternative is done. New Jack
Swing is done. Neo-soul is done. Golden Age of hip hop is done. Minneapolis Sound is done.

Michael Jackson was a drug addict. And so was Prince. What's your point in highlighting Cobain's
addiction's issues?

He suicided as a result of depression and drug addiction and interpersonal difficulties and persisting
medical ailments. Framing his suicide as "not wanting to be famous" is coldhearted and mean.

I'm a Black American male and I liked Nirvana very much, so you're wrong about Cobain not
appealing to people of color; this is especially wrongheaded on your part since one of his touring
guitarists, Pat Smear, is a person of color.

Well said. Also, I'll never get over the fact that Pat Smear was in the "Raspberry Beret" video, he's the coolest

But yes, Kurt & his work in Nirvana were very important. They may not have been the best alternative band of all time (or even of their era, I'm personally more of a Soundgarden guy), and they may have aped a lot of ideas from the bands that influenced them. But what they did to help that type of punk/alternative cross into the mainstream in such a short period of time was incredible. I can understand if their music isn't your cup of tea, but to completely disregard their impact on music is childish and not unlike the people who claim that The Beatles contributed nothing whatsoever to music.

mbdtyler said:

Well said. Also, I'll never get over the fact that Pat Smear was in the "Raspberry Beret" video, he's the coolest

But yes, Kurt & his work in Nirvana were very important. They may not have been the best alternative band of all time (or even of their era, I'm personally more of a Soundgarden guy), and they may have aped a lot of ideas from the bands that influenced them. But what they did to help that type of punk/alternative cross into the mainstream in such a short period of time was incredible. I can understand if their music isn't your cup of tea, but to completely disregard their impact on music is childish and not unlike the people who claim that The Beatles contributed nothing whatsoever to music.

Yep, a small passage of time but a huge legacy, spearheaded a new sound that helped to define the 90s. Managed to upstage Whacko and all of his hype in one year, but I particularly liked how they were at the forefront of the movement that systematically dismantled NJS and Hair Metal and left blacks and whites alike in clown pants and perms looking very foolish. Just a great time to be Alive (and yes I know that's Pearl Jam).

Kurt was an amazing person. Incredibly sad that he was hurting so much.

It's taken me a long time to appreciate Cobain more. Back in the day (I was, like, 15 to 18) my friends were Nirvana fans but I wasn't. I must say, though, that I like him more now and I have respect for his songwriting and his vocals.

It's interesting to speculate on what would have happened if. I have a feeling Kurt had slightly 'middle-class' values and tastes (not unlike John Lennon), and that he would have ended up retired from music, married to a mogul, living in a 24-room mansion on the banks of the Fraser river, and writing books about obscure German art films.