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Breaking!!! Boyfriend Found Legally Responsible For Bobbi Kristina Brown’s Death

UPDATED, 11:09 AM: A Georgia judge today ruled that Nick Gordon is legally responsible for the 2015 death of his girlfriend Bobbi Kristina Brown, the daughter of singer Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown. Gordon failed to appear today for a civil hearing on the wrongful-death case in Fulton County Superior Court — the second time he’s been a no-show. Judge T. Jackson Bedford considers that admission by omission, meaning allegations by Brown’s conservator are confirmed. Gordon has not been criminally charged in Brown’s death, but the civil suit seeks $50 million in damages. A jury will determine the actual figure. Gordon and Brown both appeared on reality show The Houstons: On Our Own, which ran for one season on Lifetime in 2012-13.

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Reply #1 posted 09/16/16 12:07pm

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getxxxx said:

UPDATED, 11:09 AM: A Georgia judge today ruled that Nick Gordon is legally responsible for the 2015 death of his girlfriend Bobbi Kristina Brown, the daughter of singer Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown. Gordon failed to appear today for a civil hearing on the wrongful-death case in Fulton County Superior Court — the second time he’s been a no-show. Judge T. Jackson Bedford considers that admission by omission, meaning allegations by Brown’s conservator are confirmed. Gordon has not been criminally charged in Brown’s death, but the civil suit seeks $50 million in damages. A jury will determine the actual figure. Gordon and Brown both appeared on reality show The Houstons: On Our Own, which ran for one season on Lifetime in 2012-13.

OH MY GOD. SO much going on in the music news. WOW Im glad he is being charged!

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Reply #2 posted 09/16/16 1:11pm

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Bobby Brown was right!

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Huh? So he's supposed to be guilty, because he didn't show up in court? Wow.

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Reply #4 posted 09/16/16 3:48pm

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Why are they suing this boy for $50 million dollars?Knowing damn well he probably ain't got $10 dollars to his name. The Browns and Houstons are full of sh*t. Bobbi Kristina down fall happened long before Nick. It started with her parents. In a lot of ways Nick was to BK what Bobby was to Whitney. He didn't get BK started with the drugs but he didn't do anything to help her kick that habit either. Nick ain't innocent but I don't believe he killed her either.
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Reply #5 posted 09/16/16 6:01pm

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PatrickS77 said:

Huh? So he's supposed to be guilty, because he didn't show up in court? Wow.

the second time he’s been a no-show. Judge T. Jackson Bedford considers that admission by omission, meaning allegations by Brown’s conservator are confirmed.

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Reply #6 posted 09/16/16 9:45pm

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Took them long enough...

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Reply #7 posted 09/16/16 11:37pm

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Why are they suing this boy for $50 million dollars?Knowing damn well he probably ain't got $10 dollars to his name. The Browns and Houstons are full of sh*t. Bobbi Kristina down fall happened long before Nick. It started with her parents. In a lot of ways Nick was to BK what Bobby was to Whitney. He didn't get BK started with the drugs but he didn't do anything to help her kick that habit either. Nick ain't innocent but I don't believe he killed her either.


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Reply #8 posted 09/17/16 6:22am

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getxxxx said:



PatrickS77 said:


Huh? So he's supposed to be guilty, because he didn't show up in court? Wow.



the second time he’s been a no-show. Judge T. Jackson Bedford considers that admission by omission, meaning allegations by Brown’s conservator are confirmed.




So what? That still doean't make him or proof him to be guilty of anything other than not showing up in court. Obviously he wasn't obligated to show up, otherwise they could charge/fine him for not showing up. Strange kind of justice they have there.
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PatrickS77 said:

getxxxx said:



PatrickS77 said:


Huh? So he's supposed to be guilty, because he didn't show up in court? Wow.



the second time he’s been a no-show. Judge T. Jackson Bedford considers that admission by omission, meaning allegations by Brown’s conservator are confirmed.




So what? That still doean't make him or proof him to be guilty of anything other than not showing up in court. Obviously he wasn't obligated to show up, otherwise they could charge/fine him for not showing up. Strange kind of justice they have there.

-/ Why is there someone one on this board there is always someone feeling sorry for the leeches of this world.
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laurarichardson said:

PatrickS77 said:



So what? That still doean't make him or proof him to be guilty of anything other than not showing up in court. Obviously he wasn't obligated to show up, otherwise they could charge/fine him for not showing up. Strange kind of justice they have there.

-/ Why is there someone one on this board there is always someone feeling sorry for the leeches of this world.


I don't feel sorry. I just question why somebody is supposed to be responsible for someones death, just because he didn't show up in court. That has nothing to do with justice or finding out what really happened.
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Reply #11 posted 09/18/16 8:15am

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PatrickS77 said:

laurarichardson said:
-/ Why is there someone one on this board there is always someone feeling sorry for the leeches of this world.
I don't feel sorry. I just question why somebody is supposed to be responsible for someones death, just because he didn't show up in court. That has nothing to do with justice or finding out what really happened.

Actually it does, if you cant bother to come to court both times you are guilty.

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Reply #12 posted 09/18/16 8:54am

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Why does someone always want to put the blame on someone else? That boy didn't come to court because he is probably terrified. There is nothing that looks to me like he killed her. This is her parents fault- girl grew up around drugs and was a mess. I don't know why people always want to put the blame on someone else when I don't see anything that looks like he did it. He and Bobbi Kristina were both on drugs. Just a bad combination of things.

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getxxxx said:



PatrickS77 said:


laurarichardson said:
-/ Why is there someone one on this board there is always someone feeling sorry for the leeches of this world.

I don't feel sorry. I just question why somebody is supposed to be responsible for someones death, just because he didn't show up in court. That has nothing to do with justice or finding out what really happened.

Actually it does, if you cant bother to come to court both times you are guilty.



No. It does not. Even if you write in bold letters.
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Reply #14 posted 09/18/16 12:47pm

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laurarichardson said:
-/ Why is there someone one on this board there is always someone feeling sorry for the leeches of this world.
I don't feel sorry. I just question why somebody is supposed to be responsible for someones death, just because he didn't show up in court. That has nothing to do with justice or finding out what really happened.

Agree

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Reply #15 posted 09/18/16 7:39pm

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Superfan1984 said:

Why does someone always want to put the blame on someone else? That boy didn't come to court because he is probably terrified. There is nothing that looks to me like he killed her. This is her parents fault- girl grew up around drugs and was a mess. I don't know why people always want to put the blame on someone else when I don't see anything that looks like he did it. He and Bobbi Kristina were both on drugs. Just a bad combination of things.

Didn't or doesn't he have a drug problem to? I ask because I know very little about their situation.

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Reply #16 posted 09/18/16 7:45pm

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Yes, he's had problems with drugs as well, but I don't think that means he killed her. She died like her mother did and no one is saying anyone is responsible for Whitney's death- except Whitney. I know Bobbi Kristina's death is a tragedy but it doesn't mean this boy killed her.

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Yes, he's had problems with drugs as well, but I don't think that means he killed her. She died like her mother did and no one is saying anyone is responsible for Whitney's death- except Whitney. I know Bobbi Kristina's death is a tragedy but it doesn't mean this boy killed her.

I wasn't inferring that... It sounds like he lost the case by default in court by simply not showing up.

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Reply #18 posted 09/19/16 4:29am

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Good. clapping I don't believe that he's soley responsible for her death but he sure was a huge part of it. Homeboy has been suspect from the beginning.

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Reply #19 posted 09/19/16 5:29am

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I'm not automatically going to label BK's boyfriend as guilty but honestly, if you can't make 2 court dates, that is pretty suspect. Him being scared of being put on the seat is not a good enough excuse to justify his absence twice.

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Some background... apparently he didn't even have a lawyer... I could imagine he's dead ass broke and can't even afford one. He doesn't get one for free in a civil trial... either way, his former family lawyer also thinks, that this doesn't prove anything.... at least someone with common sense:


Nick Gordon's Former Lawyer Speaks Out on Bobbi Kristina Brown Civil Case Ruling


By Dave Quinn and Linda Marx

09/17/2016 AT 01:35 PM EDT
On Friday, Bobbi Kristina Brown's boyfriend Nick Gordon was found civilly liable for her death after failing to appear in an Atlanta, Georgia, court in the wrongful death lawsuit filed by Brown's estate last year.

Because Gordon had failed to appear twice, Fulton County Superior Court Judge T. Jackson Bedford said Friday that anything alleged by the plaintiff is admitted through omission.

But Gordon's former family lawyer, Atlanta Trial Lawyer Randy Kessler, told PEOPLE that although he is not representing Gordon in the case, he doesn't think the 26-year-old did anything wrong.

"As I understand it – and I am not representing [Gordon] – he did not have a lawyer for this civil case and because he failed to respond or to appear, the court simply granted Plaintiff's requests to assess liability," Kessler explained.

Nick Gordon's Former Lawyer Speaks Out on Bobbi Kristina Brown Civil Case Ruling | Crime & Courts, True Crime, Bobbi Kristina Brown, Bobby Brown, Whitney Houston

Bobbi Kristina Brown with boyfriend Nick Gordon in October 2012

"To me, that does not establish that he did anything wrong," Kessler continued. "It is not a decision on the merits."

While Gordon was found civilly liable for Brown's death, he has never been criminally charged in her death. A source in the Fulton County District Attorney's office previously told PEOPLE that the criminal investigation is "still ongoing."

"This won't change anything in the criminal case," the source said. "Generally speaking, it tends to the other way around: a criminal conviction is used in a civil case. Obviously, if he had taken the stand in a civil case, we could have used what he said. But that's not what happened here. The case is still ongoing, but there are no new updates at this time."

Kessler said that if criminal charges appear, Gordon will likely be present in his defense.

Nick Gordon's Former Lawyer Speaks Out on Bobbi Kristina Brown Civil Case Ruling | Crime & Courts, True Crime, Bobbi Kristina Brown, Bobby Brown, Whitney Houston

Nick Gordon's empty courtroom chair

"He has apparently not been charged with a crime and if he is, his criminal attorney Joe Habachy will defend him vigorously," Kessler told PEOPLE.

Bobbi Kristina Brown, the daughter of Bobby Brown and Whitney Houston, was found unresponsive in the bathtub of her home on Jan. 31, 2015. After six months of medically induced comas and a hospice stay, she passed away on July 26, 2015.

After Friday's ruling, a Brown family source told PEOPLE, "We are praising God. This has been a long time coming. But all the judgments in the world won't bring Krissy back."

"We miss her every single day. Even when there's justice, it's not comfort. She was gone too soon, and we all have to live with that. I hope Nick lives with it every day for the rest of his life, because we sure are."

Judge Bedford will now determine the amount of damages to be awarded to Brown's estate. The suit asked for $50 million.

"In court today, we finally finished a long journey for justice for Bobbi Kristina Brown," Brown's estate attorney R. David Ware said in a press conference filmed by 11 Alive outside of court. "The court agrees with us, by striking Mr. Gordon's answer that he is legally responsible for her death. The only thing left to prove is the value of her life. We intend to do that."

http://www.people.com/article/randy-kessler-nick-gordon-bobbi-kristina-brown-death?xid=rss-fullcontent

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Reply #21 posted 09/19/16 5:09pm

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Even without a lawyer, he should have known better than to not so up for court...

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Reply #22 posted 09/20/16 4:36pm

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Why does someone always want to put the blame on someone else? That boy didn't come to court because he is probably terrified. There is nothing that looks to me like he killed her. This is her parents fault- girl grew up around drugs and was a mess. I don't know why people always want to put the blame on someone else when I don't see anything that looks like he did it. He and Bobbi Kristina were both on drugs. Just a bad combination of things.



You have a case pending against you in a court of law, you show up, being scared isn't an excuse for not showing responsibility. It's like anything else, you don't show up everything defaults to the other side. Someone brought charges against him, he didn't make an effort to defend himself, the other side wins their case.

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Reply #23 posted 09/20/16 9:43pm

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Bobbi Kristina is responsible for her death. As was Whitney for hers. It's harsh, but no one put anything up their nose except them.

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Reply #24 posted 09/21/16 11:02am

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Bobbi Kristina is responsible for her death. As was Whitney for hers. It's harsh, but no one put anything up their nose except them.



Well obviously the criminal courts feel the same way, hence nobody's in jail for murder. But when somebody is suing your tail, show up to court or you'll automatically lose. It is what it is.

I have no empathy here.

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morningsong said:

Superfan1984 said:

Why does someone always want to put the blame on someone else? That boy didn't come to court because he is probably terrified. There is nothing that looks to me like he killed her. This is her parents fault- girl grew up around drugs and was a mess. I don't know why people always want to put the blame on someone else when I don't see anything that looks like he did it. He and Bobbi Kristina were both on drugs. Just a bad combination of things.



You have a case pending against you in a court of law, you show up, being scared isn't an excuse for not showing responsibility. It's like anything else, you don't show up everything defaults to the other side. Someone brought charges against him, he didn't make an effort to defend himself, the other side wins their case.

Slow clap!!! Lawyer or not bring your ass to court.

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Well obviously the criminal courts feel the same way, hence nobody's in jail for murder. But when somebody is suing your tail, show up to court or you'll automatically lose. It is what it is.

I have no empathy here.



I'm in agreement with you on the showing up to court. Nick is famous by proxy, not because of anything he's done on his own. He doesn't have that MJ nuance where he can putter into court in pajama pants and a jacket, and get away with it. The guy should be there unlocking the doors in the morning.

I have empathy for him and Bobbi Kristina. They were both young, and in positions where an enabling lifestyle and parents who might have been high more than not put them in a position to be addicts themselves. Empathy doesn't mean we're patting them on the head with the proverbial "There there now, it's okay honey" thing. But to try and shed light on how someone got to where they are when you encounter them as broken individuals helps to create a level of compassion while they walk through their trials (literally and figuratively). He still has to do what he needs to as a person, and as a name on the docket.

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I still can't wrap my head around who is this guy? He has a Mom, Why was he living with Whitney? What in the world was so horrible that living with Whitney Houston was considered a better environment?
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