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Songs that changed the game

Every so often (less frequently these days it seems) a track comes along that is a musical game-changer in that it sounds like nothing that came before it. I am talking about the innovative songs (musically not lyrically) that seemingly were pulled out of another world and dropped on your eardrums, rocked your body and soul like never before. My favorite genre is funk so I will start with some of those for this list, but feel free to cite some from any genre. The ones I list here blew my mind when I first heard them and I could not get enough of them. Here goes 10 for starters ...

  • Thankyoufalettinmebemiceelf - Sly
  • Cold Sweat - James Brown
  • Munchies for Your Love - Bootsy
  • Flashlight - Parliament
  • I Just Want to Be - Cameo
  • When Doves Cry - Prince
  • Sign O the Times - Prince
  • Superstition - Stevie Wonder
  • Chameleon - Herbie Hancock
  • Kashmir - Led Zeppelin
If you've got funk, you've got style.
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Reply #1 posted 08/28/15 10:29am

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HardcoreJollies said:

Every so often (less frequently these days it seems) a track comes along that is a musical game-changer in that it sounds like nothing that came before it. I am talking about the innovative songs (musically not lyrically) that seemingly were pulled out of another world and dropped on your eardrums, rocked your body and soul like never before. My favorite genre is funk so I will start with some of those for this list, but feel free to cite some from any genre. The ones I list here blew my mind when I first heard them and I could not get enough of them. Here goes 10 for starters ...

  • Thankyoufalettinmebemiceelf - Sly
  • Cold Sweat - James Brown
  • Munchies for Your Love - Bootsy
  • Flashlight - Parliament
  • I Just Want to Be - Cameo
  • When Doves Cry - Prince
  • Sign O the Times - Prince
  • Superstition - Stevie Wonder
  • Chameleon - Herbie Hancock
  • Kashmir - Led Zeppelin

Papa¿s Got A Brand New Bag

But why these songs were such a game-changer?

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Reply #2 posted 08/28/15 11:30am

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214 said:

HardcoreJollies said:

Every so often (less frequently these days it seems) a track comes along that is a musical game-changer in that it sounds like nothing that came before it. I am talking about the innovative songs (musically not lyrically) that seemingly were pulled out of another world and dropped on your eardrums, rocked your body and soul like never before. My favorite genre is funk so I will start with some of those for this list, but feel free to cite some from any genre. The ones I list here blew my mind when I first heard them and I could not get enough of them. Here goes 10 for starters ...

  • Thankyoufalettinmebemiceelf - Sly
  • Cold Sweat - James Brown
  • Munchies for Your Love - Bootsy
  • Flashlight - Parliament
  • I Just Want to Be - Cameo
  • When Doves Cry - Prince
  • Sign O the Times - Prince
  • Superstition - Stevie Wonder
  • Chameleon - Herbie Hancock
  • Kashmir - Led Zeppelin

Papa¿s Got A Brand New Bag

But why these songs were such a game-changer?

Because they are awesome and nothing sounded quite like them before they were unleashed into the world. And so in many cases they also ended up being very influential on music that came after them too. Housequake is another one that comes to mind. It is helpful if you either experienced directly or can imagine the musical frame of reference in which each of these came into existence, that is the context in which their innovation becomes revelation.

If you've got funk, you've got style.
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Reply #3 posted 08/28/15 2:59pm

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Like a Rolling Stone-Bob Dylan. End of story. hmph!
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Reply #4 posted 08/28/15 4:46pm

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HardcoreJollies said:



214 said:




HardcoreJollies said:


Every so often (less frequently these days it seems) a track comes along that is a musical game-changer in that it sounds like nothing that came before it. I am talking about the innovative songs (musically not lyrically) that seemingly were pulled out of another world and dropped on your eardrums, rocked your body and soul like never before. My favorite genre is funk so I will start with some of those for this list, but feel free to cite some from any genre. The ones I list here blew my mind when I first heard them and I could not get enough of them. Here goes 10 for starters ...


  • Thankyoufalettinmebemiceelf - Sly

  • Cold Sweat - James Brown

  • Munchies for Your Love - Bootsy

  • Flashlight - Parliament

  • I Just Want to Be - Cameo

  • When Doves Cry - Prince

  • Sign O the Times - Prince

  • Superstition - Stevie Wonder

  • Chameleon - Herbie Hancock

  • Kashmir - Led Zeppelin



Papa¿s Got A Brand New Bag



But why these songs were such a game-changer?



Because they are awesome and nothing sounded quite like them before they were unleashed into the world. And so in many cases they also ended up being very influential on music that came after them too. Housequake is another one that comes to mind. It is helpful if you either experienced directly or can imagine the musical frame of reference in which each of these came into existence, that is the context in which their innovation becomes revelation.

Innovative =/= game-changing.

And out of all of Prince's songs, "Housequake" is neither.
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Reply #5 posted 08/28/15 7:14pm

RJOrion

Thats The Way Of The World - Earth Wind & Fire

When Doves Cry - Prince

Thank You Fallettinme Be Mice Elf Agin - Sly & The Family Stone

Protect Your Neck - Wu Tang Clan

Night Fever/Stayin Alive - Bee Gees

Holiday/Lucky Star - Madonna

Superstition - Stevie Wonder

Flashlight - Parliament

Good Times - Chic

Rappers' Delight - Sugarhill Gang

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Reply #6 posted 08/29/15 3:38am

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hmmm Ohhh, I haven't even heard of most of those. Is there a more objective list with logical choices? I imagine it would have stuff from Hendrix, The Beatles, Beegees, Giorgio Moroder, etc.

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Reply #7 posted 08/29/15 6:52am

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spacedolphin said:

hmmm Ohhh, I haven't even heard of most of those. Is there a more objective list with logical choices? I imagine it would have stuff from Hendrix, The Beatles, Beegees, Giorgio Moroder, etc.

eek

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Reply #8 posted 08/29/15 2:02pm

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Strings of Life - Derrick May
Alleys of Your Mind - Juan Atkins
On and On - Badu
Smooth Operator - Sade
Love to Love U - Donna Summer
I Feel Love - Donna Summer
Moments in Love - Art of Noise
Follow the Leader - Rakim
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Reply #9 posted 08/30/15 11:31am

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Graycap23 said:



spacedolphin said:


hmmm Ohhh, I haven't even heard of most of those. Is there a more objective list with logical choices? I imagine it would have stuff from Hendrix, The Beatles, Beegees, Giorgio Moroder, etc.



eek


Not everybody is a P-funk fan, Gray. wink
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Reply #10 posted 08/30/15 11:42am

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NorthC said:

Graycap23 said:



spacedolphin said:


hmmm Ohhh, I haven't even heard of most of those. Is there a more objective list with logical choices? I imagine it would have stuff from Hendrix, The Beatles, Beegees, Giorgio Moroder, etc.



eek


Not everybody is a P-funk fan, Gray. wink
Or a Prince fan for that matter.
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Reply #11 posted 08/30/15 12:32pm

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NorthC said:

Graycap23 said:

eek

Not everybody is a P-funk fan, Gray. wink

There are 9 artists on that list.

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Reply #12 posted 08/30/15 1:37pm

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Hardcorejollie just posts a bunch of songs. Most didn't change anything.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #13 posted 08/30/15 2:35pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Hardcorejollie just posts a bunch of songs. Most didn't change anything.


They're awesome and "innovative"/ he likes them therefore they changed the game.
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Reply #14 posted 08/30/15 3:35pm

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Sun - "Wanna Make Love" (First taste of Roger Zapp Troutman's talkbox in then current-day R&B)

Natalie Cole - '75-'79 (Gospel/Soul meets Pop)

Fatback "King Tim (Personality Jock") - Rap presents in then current R&B!)

Michael Zager Band/Foxy "Let's All Chant"/"Get Off" (Here come the OO-ah OO-ahs and the whistles!)

Donna Summer - "Hot Stuff" (Rock being introduced into Dance/R&B)

Melba Moore - "Love's Comin' At Ya!" (First computer-generated basslines presenting a la Kashif)

Yarborough & Peoples - "Don't Stop The Music" (first introduction of the 808 Roland Drum Machine)

Janet Jackson/Jam & Lewis - "Rhythm Nation" (First use of industrial sound samples in 80's R&B)

C&C Music Factory - "Gonna Make You Sweat" - (Techno meets R&B/Dance!)

Soul II Soul - "Back To Life" (U.K. Soul arrives in The States!)

Erykah Badu - "On and On" (Neo Soul is HERE!)

MY ideas of gamechangers soley. Some may/may not agree. I think I done GOOD tho! smile

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Reply #15 posted 08/30/15 3:50pm

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off the top of my head

Mavin Gaye' - "What's Goin' On"


Nirvana - "Spells Like Teen Spirit

Curtis Mayfield - "Freddie's Dead"

Carpenters - "Rainy Days & Mondays"

Dinah Washington - "What A Difference A Day Makes"

Miles Davis - "So What"

Wes Montgomery- "Bumpin"

Sam Cooke - " A Change Is Gonna Come"

Jimmy Hendrick - "Foxy Lady"

Jacksons - "Can You Feel It"

Earth, Wind, & Fire - "That's The Way Of the World"

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TD3 said:

off the top of my head




Mavin Gaye' - "What's Goin' On"



Nirvana - "Spells Like Teen Spirit


Curtis Mayfield - "Freddie's Dead"



Carpenters - "Rainy Days & Mondays"



Dinah Washington - "What A Difference A Day Makes"

Miles Davis - "So What"

Wes Montgomery- "Bumpin"

Sam Cooke - " A Change Is Gonna Come"

Jimmy Hendrick - "Foxy Lady"

Jacksons - "Can You Feel It"

Earth, Wind, & Fire - "That's The Way Of the World"



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The last two stand out the most. Why those?
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Reply #17 posted 08/30/15 7:41pm

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MotownSubdivision said:

TD3 said:

off the top of my head

Mavin Gaye' - "What's Goin' On"


Nirvana - "Spells Like Teen Spirit

Curtis Mayfield - "Freddie's Dead"

Carpenters - "Rainy Days & Mondays"

Dinah Washington - "What A Difference A Day Makes"

Miles Davis - "So What"

Wes Montgomery- "Bumpin"

Sam Cooke - " A Change Is Gonna Come"

Jimmy Hendrick - "Foxy Lady"

Jacksons - "Can You Feel It"

Earth, Wind, & Fire - "That's The Way Of the World"

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The last two stand out the most. Why those?

WHY CAN YOU FEEL IT

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Reply #18 posted 08/30/15 8:43pm

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Before "House Music" was defined as such, underground clubs were mixing "Can You Feel It' to death; that song had fanatical following under ground. More importantly, of all the albums / songs the Jackson's recorded for Epic, "Can You Feel It" was a a precursor to Michael's solo music career... music arrangments, the sound, the look and video production. Listen to an artist discography in order, you discover the tipping point... they've pulled all together.

"That's The Way Of The World". In my humble opinion (Gaye's, What's Going On) its a break the mold kinda song. I havent heard anything like then or now.

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MotownSubdivision said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Hardcorejollie just posts a bunch of songs. Most didn't change anything.

They're awesome and "innovative"/ he likes them therefore they changed the game.
  • Thankyoufalettinmebemiceelf - Sly (popping bass style)
  • Cold Sweat - James Brown (the song where real fully developed funk began)
  • Munchies for Your Love - Bootsy (space bass, sonic textures & vocals in ballad)
  • Flashlight - Parliament (synth bass)
  • I Just Want to Be - Cameo (soundscapes and vocals)
  • When Doves Cry - Prince (sparseness, haunting, absence of bass)
  • Sign O the Times - Prince (use of silence within groove to build tension)
  • Superstition - Stevie Wonder (moog programming)
  • Chameleon - Herbie Hancock (hard funk in jazz context)
  • Kashmir - Led Zeppelin (far east textures, booming rhythm, hypnotic other-worldy)

If you've got funk, you've got style.
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Reply #20 posted 08/31/15 8:53am

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HardcoreJollies said:

Because they are awesome and nothing sounded quite like them before they were unleashed into the world. And so in many cases they also ended up being very influential on music that came after them too. Housequake is another one that comes to mind. It is helpful if you either experienced directly or can imagine the musical frame of reference in which each of these came into existence, that is the context in which their innovation becomes revelation.

Innovative =/= game-changing. And out of all of Prince's songs, "Housequake" is neither.

I had been a lifelong music fanatic and DJ for many years when Housequake dropped and I can tell you the initial experience was revelational because I had never heard anything like it. It took some funk, some hip-hop and all the special sauce that only Prince can manage to produce something that at the time sounded like nothing any other human could have conjured. A true WTF where did that come from, mind-bending and booty shaking experience.

If you've got funk, you've got style.
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Reply #21 posted 08/31/15 9:53am

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Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana sad (Began the destruction of rock and roll)

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RodeoSchro said:

Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana sad (Began the destruction of rock and roll)

UGH!!!! AWful band! I FEEL u!!! <3

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Reply #23 posted 08/31/15 8:07pm

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"maybe your baby" by stevie wonder... changed the game... it really redefined funk... ftr... i'm from the era... and james brown was the "self proclaimed" originator of funk... but we didn't think what james did was funk... he was pretty country to us... and i don't mean country and western... but down home country... the jumpsuits and the begging was far from cool... which was one of the basis of funk...

james brown was the "self proclaimed" of a lot of things... he gave himself those titles and repeated it so many times that people came to believe it... just like he tried to proclaim that the "rumble in the jungle" was really about him... and not about ali and foreman... even he couldn't get that one to stick... lol

others that changed the game were

"niggers are scared of revolution"... last poets

"que sera que sera.... sly and the family stone

"maggot brain" parliament/funkadelic

"low spark of high heeled boys"... traffic

"cloudburst"... the pointer sisters

"benny and the jets"... elton john and bernie taupin

"so in love with you"... al green

jmo

[Edited 8/31/15 20:14pm]

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jaye501 said:

"maybe your baby" by stevie wonder... changed the game... it really redefined funk... ftr... i'm from the era... and james brown was the "self proclaimed" originator of funk... but we didn't think what james did was funk... he was pretty country to us... and i don't mean country and western... but down home country... the jumpsuits and the begging was far from cool... which was one of the basis of funk...

james brown was the "self proclaimed" of a lot of things... he gave himself those titles and repeated it so many times that people came to believe it... just like he tried to proclaim that the "rumble in the jungle" was really about him... and not about ali and foreman... even he couldn't get that one to stick... lol

others that changed the game were

"niggers are scared of revolution"... last poets

"que sera que sera.... sly and the family stone

"maggot brain" parliament/funkadelic

"low spark of high heeled boys"... traffic

"cloudburst"... the pointer sisters

"benny and the jets"... elton john and bernie taupin

"so in love with you"... al green

jmo

[Edited 8/31/15 20:14pm]

Good stuff! I was going to mention Maggot Brain too. I was not around then but I imagine maybe Satisfaction and Purple Haze had that kind of impact? Or maybe Voodoo Chile? I am sure there is a Beatles song or two that also merit mention but I am not an expert on their catalog. More recently, Public Enemy's first album and NWA's Fuck Tha Police/Straight Outta Compton come to mind. Perhaps Grand Master Flash's The Message. Maybe even Rapper's Delight.

[Edited 9/1/15 13:51pm]

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2freaky4church1 said:

Hardcorejollie just posts a bunch of songs. Most didn't change anything.



Please do tell us which songs did change the game Rolling Stone critic.
[Edited 9/1/15 7:26am]
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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OfftheWall said:

yup, this one hands down. some day the rest of music will catch up, but not yet lol

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #28 posted 09/01/15 10:53am

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Hips Don't Lie

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Reply #29 posted 09/01/15 11:15am

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phunkdaddy said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Hardcorejollie just posts a bunch of songs. Most didn't change anything.

Please do tell us which songs did change the game Rolling Stone critic. [Edited 9/1/15 7:26am]

i thought hardcorejollie's list was excellent... as were some of the other posters...

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