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Jay-Z's epic, game-changing, $20/monthly not Spotify Anyone bold/dumb/rich enough to try this mess out? I can't tell from the articles if they are promising exclusive tracks or if its just baloney wrapped in cheese. It sounds like a fucking mess though. I'd love to hear a review. | |
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If Beats Music couldn't pull it off despite having Dre and Trent Reznor running things, what makes Jay-Z think he can? Or is he just hoping to get just enough traction and brand awareness to sell to a major tech company, like Beats did? |
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He changed the price to $10. He knew good and well nobody was going to pay $20 for that ish. Anyone who purchases this is insane OR a major Jay Z stan. They have much cheaper music stream outlets e.g. Rhapsody, Spotify, itunes etc. Why pay $10 for the same service you can get for free or for a much cheaper price? He is trying to get money from loyal fans based on something they can get for free because their favorite artists are signed up on the deal. Marketing 101. Its a stupid move when you have youtube, google etc all these other free and less expensive services.
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One of the most pretentious displays of clueless cognitive dissonace EVER. Could they be douchier? As if kids breathlessly waiting for beyonces album have 9.99/month? They hare SO out of touch with their customer, and have zero connection to understanding the psychology of the customer. And on top of that...because its revolutionary that we should worry about Madonna losing money. | |
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. Pump and dump!! . Can't imagine this will still be around in two years, but we'll see... "I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 | |
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'‘The first ever artist-owned global music and entertainment platform''. Say what?
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Not to defend Jay in any way, but this is something artists need to get behind. I knew the average person is LIKE why i should care if Taylor Swift or Madonna or Beyonce's record sales suffer because of things like Spotify. But sorry that is just DUMB to say or think, and here is the big picture. Taylor and Beyonce and Katy Perry are about 1% of the recording industry, and even less of the artists that put out music. So to think that every artist that has a contract or an album is a millionare and paid again is stupid thinking. Look at some of the ORG's faves here, Van Hunt dude is collecting and fund raising to do a record, he my friends is the motherfucking majority of artists not the minority. And please dont give me that shit, oh make your money on your touring. Really, you think Van Hunt or Elle Varner or some other low key artists are making money on tours? Sorry, unless you are madonna or Elton or Jovi etc.. with a huge sponsorship and corporate behind you, you are not making money on your tour, you are counting every fucking $$ plain and simple. Spotify and some other streaming outlets pay an average of 4 cents for a track to an artist, do the math people. Now again Im not a Jay Z fan at all, an this is pure EGO driven for sure, BUT artists need to start getting the fucking hands out their pockets, between labels, spotify, iTunes etc....its worse than it ever was.
And also people who bitch and moan about quality, well the reason you arent seeing it is because there is no revenue in Music, so choose your side, stop bitching music sucks and talent sucks and this and that and get behind something that needs to change for the majority of artists. No other form of work lets you get work for free, now with streams basically ripped just as easily as downloading files from napster was in the day, shit has to change "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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What about Garth Brooks' GhostTunes & Neil Young's Pono? [Edited 3/30/15 17:30pm] You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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I think I'm gonna stick with Spotify,for now | |
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can somebody please explain why you would pay a monthly fee to listen to music? | |
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The art of the record collection is dying. | |
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I would agree with this post if there were indie and independent artists included in this deal but there not. Its the same elite group mainstream artists that are benefiting from this. Also, I am still confused with how this streaming service is any different from some of the less expensive ones. How is this service distinct? How is this stream benefiting the consumer? I don't get that from the conference presentation. All I see are a bunch of pop stars trying to take advantage of their hard core fans by fooling them into buying a service that they can get for free else where. Most of the artists that were in the presentation make a ton of money touring so I am not sure what the point of this whole "revolution stream" shit they are trying to market
Streaming music services are meant to accomodate the consumer not the other way around. If these pop stars pull their songs/catalogs from those other services... I think it will back fire. Nobody is not going to pay $10 or 20 dollars a month for this when they can go on youtube for free or other less expensive services to get music and watch music videos. The hard cores might put our but the average listener is not going to. | |
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this! itunes is amazing - radio stations - podcasts - theres so many ways that are free. | |
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Thanks identity for clarification
Such a GREAT post, thanks!
Madonna makes a ton of money through touring and other ventures, why is she apart of this? Same with Beyonce, Jay Z, Nikki, Rihanna etc they ALL make most of their money from other avenues non related to music so there reasons for doing this are pretty self serving. None of them tweeted one thing on Ferguson, Black Live Matters or "I Can't Breathe" hashtag but they want me to buy their music and watch their videos that I can get for free? They won't see a dime from me. I will stick to youtube
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ps: i have no idea what happened to this text when i saved it lololol [Edited 3/30/15 18:51pm] | |
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I've been a paying Rhapsody subscriber for 6 years now. It's amazing. Paying a small monthly fee for nearly unlimited music is a great deal. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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But even without perks, lets say they just wanted to start their own stream music service. Why not price the service lower to around 3.99 or 4.99? Why price it 10 or 20 dollars when there are much cheaper services? What does this service have that the other services don't have? Either they are money hungry greedy pop stars or they are simply out of touch with the socioeconomics of their consumers. I am all for celebrities trying to make money as well but like you pointed out its hard to take these rich pop stars seriously when they do shady stuff like this.
They want to bamboozle their fans into buying their music because they think they are being cheated. It also leaves a bad taste in my mouth when these same pop stars did not utter one word on any of the social issues around innocent victims (consumers) that have been killed over the last several months by police but yet they want my money? They only seem to care about consumers when they can get money out of you otherwise they could give a damn if you get shot at in the street. I don't see how anybody could put money in any of these peoples pockets especially The Carters. | |
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I would agree with this post if there were indie and independent artists included in this deal but there not. Its the same elite group mainstream artists that are benefiting from this. Also, I am still confused with how this streaming service is any different from some of the less expensive ones. How is this service distinct? How is this stream benefiting the consumer? I don't get that from the conference presentation. All I see are a bunch of pop stars trying to take advantage of their hard core fans by fooling them into buying a service that they can get for free else where. Most of the artists that were in the presentation make a ton of money touring so I am not sure what the point of this whole "revolution stream" shit they are trying to market
Streaming music services are meant to accomodate the consumer not the other way around. If these pop stars pull their songs/catalogs from those other services... I think it will back fire. Nobody is not going to pay $10 or 20 dollars a month for this when they can go on youtube for free or other less expensive services to get music and watch music videos. The hard cores might put our but the average listener is not going to. Thing is though you aren't gonna launch an idea with no names, I mean I dig Van Hunt but who the hell would be batting an eyelash to him doing this? He is known by about 0.000001% of the music listeners, and that's not slighting him that's realism, u can't launch anything without a name or names so yes it's gonna look like oh the fucking elite want money for shit. I mean the fact is that 90% doc the music consumers about who worked on a record what it cost what studio who played on it, album art. We can all champion things like Reocrd Store day and shit like that but that type of consumer is dead and buried, because of the simplicity of the way music is made treated and distributed. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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I have to agree.These artists are filthy rich.Madonna is damn near a billionaire Don't get me wrong,I support the artists that I like by buying their CDs and going to their concerts.But I'm not gonna lose any sleep just because they're losing a little money and feel that they're being cheated.At the end of the day,they're still extremely wealthy.I'm not crying any tears for them,lol. | |
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at Jay Z.s press conference today:Rihanna,Alicia Keyes,Madonna,Beyonce
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Clueless is.....as clueless does. FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. | |
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Not for me,it isn't I still buy vinyl records,and CDs too.Young kids love to download music,but I'm old school...lol...It's important for me to have the physical copy. | |
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I wonder what Prince thinks of this service The fact that it's artist-owned,should appeal to him. | |
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