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Reply #150 posted 12/22/14 9:30pm

EddieC

scriptgirl said:

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/12/why-dangelos-album-makes-you-want-to-have-sex.html?mid=facebook_vulture

D’Angelo and the Vanguard’s new album Black Messiah, released to the surprise of almost everyone a week ago, isn’t supposed to be about sex. Its release was bumped up, after all, in response to protests surrounding the deaths of Michael Brown and other unarmed African-American men. And yet it is a very sexy album. Just listen to it. As Ava Tunnicliffe wrote in Nylon, “If there was only one word to describe the album, it would be sexy. In three words, it's really, really sexy.” This has become something of a consensus position since the album fell from the sexy, sexy heavens, at least if numerous tweets like this one are any indication:

But why is it a sexy album? It seems like a question designed to drain the very sexiness from the thing itself, but it can actually tell us some interesting things about the psychology of music and sex. So here are a few insights aboutBlack Messiah's, well, potent effects on its listeners.

Musical Spontaneity Is Sexy, and Black Messiah Has It

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According to Tony Lemieux, a researcher at Georgia State who studies the social psychology of music, part of the reason for Black Messiah’s sexiness is its mix of well-known R&B elements with some surprising flourishes. “There’s a familiarity about the sound and the music, and yet it does some kinds of surprising and unexpected things,” he said. On parts of “Really Love,” for example, someone is whispering enticingly in the background — presumably about something sexy, though for all the listener knows they could be reciting a recipe for pound cake. And on “Betray My Heart,” there are “aspects that mix up the rhythm a little bit that kind of draw you in, that cause you to listen a bit more closely.”

You do need some aspect of familiarity in pop music, explained Lemieux, and it’s not like Black Messiah isn’t operating within some well-established genres. But for songs to really deliver a visceral punch, there also have to be elements that cause people not just to bob their heads along, but to occasionally sit up straight and take notice.

Heh, heh--he said "pound cake."

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Reply #151 posted 12/22/14 10:31pm

MoBettaBliss

cd is finally available here in oz.. picked it up today

i quite like this album... have i shared that already?

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Reply #152 posted 12/22/14 11:29pm

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #153 posted 12/22/14 11:32pm

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RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Yeah, I read that. If I might be blunt, fuck him.

I've never minded if people don't share my musical tastes or opinions, everybody hears music differently, and I've been a member of this site long enough to know that even among fans of the same musician people can get extremely different things out of the music, and can find value in stuff that I would skip over every time, and dismiss stuff that I think is essential. That's cool, and it's part of the pleasure of sharing one's musical opinions with others. But please don't tell me that the only reason I like something is because I'm some deluded moron who's too stupid to realise how terrible my taste is. That's condescending bullshit, and a terrible arguement to boot. I honestly wouldn't mind if he totally rubbished every aspect of the album, if he didn't give his ridiculous reasoning for why it's receiving so much praise.

Shame he reveals himself to be such a colossal prick in that last paragraph, as honestly I think some of the stuff he had to say was really quite interesting, if occasionally objectional (that thing about how black people shouldn't play rock music is just some weird cultural imperialist rubbish, but whatever). It certainly is worth a read, but attempting to second guess other people's enjoyment of an album is dumb as fuck.

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I HATE when critics attempt to crawl inside my brain to tell me why I like something. Here's an idea, buddy: crawl up my ass next time.

wuahahahahahahaha!!!!

But the best thing bout Payton is that HIS shit builds on the D'Angelo Voodoo formula to the max (talkin bout his latest releases bitches and numbers)... unfortunately his shit is boring an uninspired. numbers sounds like a bag of 3rd class voodoo demos. dude must be frustrated as FUCK!

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Reply #154 posted 12/23/14 5:40am

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EddieC said:



scriptgirl said:


http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/12/why-dangelos-album-makes-you-want-to-have-sex.html?mid=facebook_vulture



D’Angelo and the Vanguard’s new album Black Messiah, released to the surprise of almost everyone a week ago, isn’t supposed to be about sex. Its release was bumped up, after all, in response to protests surrounding the deaths of Michael Brown and other unarmed African-American men. And yet it is a very sexy album. Just listen to it. As Ava Tunnicliffe wrote in Nylon, “If there was only one word to describe the album, it would be sexy. In three words, it's really, really sexy.” This has become something of a consensus position since the album fell from the sexy, sexy heavens, at least if numerous tweets like this one are any indication:


But why is it a sexy album? It seems like a question designed to drain the very sexiness from the thing itself, but it can actually tell us some interesting things about the psychology of music and sex. So here are a few insights aboutBlack Messiah's, well, potent effects on its listeners.


Musical Spontaneity Is Sexy, and Black Messiah Has It


Related Stories


This Is Apparently the World’s Catchiest SongThis Is Apparently the World’s Catchiest Song


According to Tony Lemieux, a researcher at Georgia State who studies the social psychology of music, part of the reason for Black Messiah’s sexiness is its mix of well-known R&B elements with some surprising flourishes. “There’s a familiarity about the sound and the music, and yet it does some kinds of surprising and unexpected things,” he said. On parts of “Really Love,” for example, someone is whispering enticingly in the background — presumably about something sexy, though for all the listener knows they could be reciting a recipe for pound cake. And on “Betray My Heart,” there are “aspects that mix up the rhythm a little bit that kind of draw you in, that cause you to listen a bit more closely.”


You do need some aspect of familiarity in pop music, explained Lemieux, and it’s not like Black Messiah isn’t operating within some well-established genres. But for songs to really deliver a visceral punch, there also have to be elements that cause people not just to bob their heads along, but to occasionally sit up straight and take notice.





Heh, heh--he said "pound cake."




Now I have that shitty Van Halen song stuck in my head. FUCK YOU!!! mad
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Reply #155 posted 12/23/14 6:54am

EddieC

KingSausage said:

EddieC said:

Heh, heh--he said "pound cake."

Now I have that shitty Van Halen song stuck in my head. FUCK YOU!!! mad

You're welcome.

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Reply #156 posted 12/23/14 7:07am

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EddieC said:



KingSausage said:


EddieC said:



Heh, heh--he said "pound cake."



Now I have that shitty Van Halen song stuck in my head. FUCK YOU!!! mad


You're welcome.



lol
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Reply #157 posted 12/23/14 9:45am

Empress

Does anyone know if the cd is avaiable to buy anywhere in Toronto? I want to purchase it for a friend, but can't find any info on where I can buy the cd.
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Reply #158 posted 12/23/14 11:44am

Thibaut

I live in a small belgian town and the local record store has like 20 copies. I am pretty sure you will find it in toronto lol

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Reply #159 posted 12/23/14 12:21pm

Ego101

Nice !

I agree w/ him 100% about BM.

although i would've softened the blow a bit. wink

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Black Messiah just got SAVAGED by legendary jazz player Nicholas Payton.


Read the whole article. It's worth it.

http://nicholaspayton.wordpress.com/2014/12/17/will-the-real-black-messiah-please-stand-up/

Took 14 years to make 12 songs. Had to sit through 11 of them to get to one classic. Not really funky, overall. Not worth the hold ups.

For all the hype Questlove made about how innovative and groundbreaking this album was supposed to be, I find it to be D’Angelo’s most derivative work to date. There’s nothing on the album that doesn’t sound like something else. In fact, Black Messiah sounds like a bad version of Bilal’s Love Surreal. I don’t remember folks giving this amount of love to Bilal when it was a far more creative effort than D’Angelo’s latest.

Dude had 14 years to make it, a crew of the best musicians and engineers, and limitless studio time and after all of the hullabaloo it’s not that funky. How many hungry Black mouths could be fed with the studio time he’s squandered over the past decade? Such a waste of resources. He needs to be held to a higher standard of excellence. I guess when you cock tease your fans for 14 years, the least effort makes them nut in their bloomers.

When we do get to the first tune with a funk feel in “Sugah Daddy,” the pulse is delivered in a cutesy and corny way. It’s almost like I can see Betty Boop doing Jazz Hands to this. I don’t get it. Why? D had one of the dopest pockets in the business. Let the unfunky people hide behind wack rhythms.

He’s been out of the album business for a while and Black Messiah sounds like it. A lot has happened in music since he’s drifted off the scene. All of us weren’t waiting for him. Many continue to evolve.

I get why a lot of y’all think Black Messiah is a masterpiece. It ain’t because it’s great or you love it. It’s because you need something to believe in. It’s not because this album makes you want to dance or make love, and if it does, I shudder to think what type of spastic tango it elicits. You’ve been mindfucked for over a decade that this record would change your life, and now that it’s here you don’t care how it sounds. You’ve been deprived for 14 years and brainwashed to think you’re having the best sex of your life, but when the hype dies down, all you’ll be left with is a bunch of crackers.




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Reply #160 posted 12/23/14 1:50pm

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well, it took me about 3 or 4 listens but finally starting to appreciate this album..........i don't love it but I kind of get why people are excited about it, without ever hearing his other stuff

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Reply #161 posted 12/23/14 2:03pm

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Questlove needs to seriously get over himself about the D'Angelo/Zappa statement. That is such a bizarrely apples to oranges comparison. Nothing, I repeat, NOTHING about D'Angelo even comes close to being Zappa. Zappa has about a thousand albums out, D'Angelo has three. Zappa was onstage going strong for over 25 years, D'Angelo maybe seven years onstage at the most. chainsaw

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Reply #162 posted 12/23/14 2:31pm

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Who are direct descendants of D'Angelo? I'll start with the obvious two.

Bilal

Van Hunt

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Reply #163 posted 12/23/14 2:36pm

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All of it. Everything. Is U.
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Reply #164 posted 12/23/14 2:49pm

Ego101

Musiq Soulchild.

Remy Shand?

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Who are direct descendants of D'Angelo? I'll start with the obvious two.

Bilal

Van Hunt

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Reply #165 posted 12/23/14 3:18pm

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Ego101 said:

Musiq Soulchild.

Remy Shand?

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Who are direct descendants of D'Angelo? I'll start with the obvious two.

Bilal

Van Hunt

Musiq, I don't know.

What about Maxwell?

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Reply #166 posted 12/23/14 3:32pm

mjscarousal

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Ego101 said:

Musiq Soulchild.

Remy Shand?

Musiq, I don't know.

What about Maxwell?

Definitly not Musiq , I would say Maxwell...

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Reply #167 posted 12/23/14 3:34pm

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mjscarousal said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Musiq, I don't know.

What about Maxwell?

Definitly not Musiq , I would say Maxwell...

Yeah, with Musiq he's not all the way out there like D, Hunt and Bilal. Yet he's not Usher or Trey Songz. He's somwhere in the middle, like Raheem DeVaughn.

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Reply #168 posted 12/23/14 3:39pm

mjscarousal

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^He comes back in February looking like this? cool

I hope so but probably not..

Damn D lol

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Reply #169 posted 12/23/14 3:41pm

mjscarousal

LittleBLUECorvette said:

mjscarousal said:

Definitly not Musiq , I would say Maxwell...

Yeah, with Musiq he's not all the way out there like D, Hunt and Bilal. Yet he's not Usher or Trey Songz. He's somwhere in the middle, like Raheem DeVaughn.

I think Raheem DeVaughn is a much better artist and performer than Musiq. I wish Raheem would have kept his "Love Experience" sound. He had so much potential.

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Reply #170 posted 12/23/14 3:49pm

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mjscarousal said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Yeah, with Musiq he's not all the way out there like D, Hunt and Bilal. Yet he's not Usher or Trey Songz. He's somwhere in the middle, like Raheem DeVaughn.

I think Raheem DeVaughn is a much better artist and performer than Musiq. I wish Raheem would have kept his "Love Experience" sound. He had so much potential.

I agree on Raheem.

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Reply #171 posted 12/23/14 4:44pm

Ego101

^ Im not a Modern R&B fan..

I thought Musiq was down with the Jill Scott/Roots/Philly crew...? which to me = D'angelo..

Remy Shand was a dude who had an album out in the early 2000's-

/he was a self produced, multi instrumentalist kinda Soul/Curtis Mayfeild/Marvin/Fender Rhodes..

which at that time probably wouldve gotten signed IMO because of D'angelo's success.

He had Potential...


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Reply #172 posted 12/23/14 4:59pm

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I don't know if anyone remember Christion? They were a duo signed to Jay-Z's Roc-A-Fella in it's early years around 96-97. They were nice, they had a single Full of Smoke which I liked.

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Reply #173 posted 12/23/14 5:32pm

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http://atlantabraves.blog.ajc.com/2014/12/22/top-50-albums-of-2014-late-entrant-dangelo-shakes-things-up/

Top 50 albums of 2014: Late entrant D’Angelo shakes things up

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My best-of-2014 albums list was nearly complete, with only the ordering of the last 25 or so on it remaining to be done, when D’Angelo threw a wrench into the process with his unexpected release last week of an album that was slated to arrive in 2015. While hisBlack Messiah LP necessitated multiple listenings in the past week and then a reworking at the top of the list, it was worth it.messiah

Until then I had Sturgill Simpson’s outstanding Metamodern Sounds in Country Music — the best real country album in the past 10 years by anyone under 40 not named Jamey Johnson – atop my list. Had it just ahead of Run The Jewels 2, the second side-project album by Atlanta’s Killer Mike and Run The Jewels bandmate El-P, which surpasses their first album and can at least be mentioned in the same sentence as Killer Mike’s sublime 2012 album R.A.P. Music.

Then D’Angelo and the Vanguard entered the fray.

Black Messiah is an instant classic. It’s on a par with, and perhaps even better, than Voodoo, D’Angelo’s last studio album, which came out a full decade-and-a-half ago. (Hey, if you’re only going to crank out one album every 15 years, might as well make it a stunner, huh?)

Beautiful, brilliant, timely, socially conscious … and so very, very funky. Put this disc in the player, or the needle on the record, or however you young folks listen to tunes, and sit back. Let it wash over you. Start to finish. It’s best appreciated through that kind of listening experience. Preferably wearing headphones with the volume way up. This is the real deal, people.

One minute it reminds you of vintage Sly & The Family Stone. Then a song like “Charade”comes on and sounds like a lost track from Prince’s Sign O’ The Times. (To be honest, this sounds more like the Prince album that a lot of us hardcore Prince fans have been holding out hope to get from the Purple One for the past 20 years.) This is seriously transcendant R&B/soul, and it also rocks like early Funkadelic in spots. That’s lofty company.

Besides Prince, nobody has combined all of these particular influences and styles into one heady brew quite as adroitly as D’Angelo, who is backed on this album by a superb band that features Roots drummer Questlove on several tracks (he also gets co-songwriting credit on a few songs).

imagesSturgill’s album would’ve probably been No. 1 on my list in at least three of the previous five years. If I did the list again tomorrow, it might be No. 1 this year. It was that close a race, in my opinion. But right now, I’ve got it a close second. Looking at the top 10, including Sun Kil Moon’s remarkably personal Benji at No. 4 and Lucinda Williams’ best album in a decade, I’d have to say this is probably the deepest top 10 since I started doing this list.

As usual, I had no rules regarding genre of music. I like what I like, and chose only from albums/CDs that I have in my possession, all but one of which I bought (the exception: a friend sent me a copy of one album on the list). No “cheating” by sampling of albums off the internet and then putting them in my list. Had to have it, and had to have listened to it multiple times.

Again, I excluded live albums – Whitey Morgan’s recently released live LP is superb – as well as greatest hits, various-artist compilations (The Soul of Designer Records set: Grade A), outtakes compilations (i.e., Dylan & The Band’s Basement Tapes Raw and Wilco’s Alpha Mike Foxtrot, both terrific — and multi-artist soundtracks.

Hope you find a few you like and perhaps weren’t familiar with, either by checking them out on Spotify or YouTube or wherever you go to peruse new tunes. And here’s my best advice this year: Even if you don’t consider yourself a fan of soul/funk or traditional country, do yourself a favor and try the top albums on the list. I bet you might be surprised to find you dig ‘em.

  1. D’Angelo: Black Messiah
  2. Sturgill Simpson: Metamodern Sounds in Country Music
  3. Run the Jewels: Run the Jewels 2
    Run The Jewels

    Run The Jewels

  4. Sun Kil Moon: Benji
  5. Spoon: They Want My Soul
  6. Lucinda Williams: Down Where the Spirit Meets the Bone
  7. Hiss Golden Messenger: Lateness of Dancers
  8. Rosanne Cash: The River & The Thread
  9. Angel Olsen: Burn Your Fire for No Witness
  10. The War on Drugs: Lost in the Dream
  11. St. Vincent: St. Vincent
  12. Steve Gunn: Way Out Weather
  13. Leonard Cohen: Popular Problems
  14. Big K.R.I.T.: Cadillactica
  15. Shabazz Palaces: Lese Majesty
  16. Simone Felice: Strangers
  17. Lydia Loveless: Somewhere Elseurl
  18. Swans: To Be Kind
  19. Matthew Ryan: Boxers
  20. Afghan Whigs: Do to the Beast
  21. Tami Neilson: Dynamite
  22. Strand of Oaks: Heal
  23. Woods: With Light and With Love
  24. Mary Gauthier: Trouble & Love
  25. Joe Henry: Invisible Hour
  26. Dave Alvin & Phil Alvin: Common Ground
  27. Vince Staples: Hell Can Wait
  28. Sharon Van Etten: Are We There
  29. Drive-By Truckers: English Oceans
  30. Protomartyr: Under Color of Official Right
  31. Ought: More Than Any Other Day
  32. The Delines: Colfax
  33. Statik Selektah: What Goes Around
  34. Mark Lanegan Band: Phantom Radio
    Drive-By Truckers

    Drive-By Truckers

  35. Parquet Courts: Sunbathing Animal
  36. Beck: Morning Phase
  37. Bob Mould: Beauty & Ruin
  38. Jenny Lewis: The Voyager
  39. Wild Beasts: Present Tense
  40. Freddie Gibbs & Madlib: Pinata
  41. Benjamin Booker: Benjamin Booker
  42. Jack White: Lazarreto
  43. Thurston Moore: The Best Day
  44. YG: My Krazy Life
  45. Angaleena Presley: American Middle Class
  46. The Antlers: Familiars
  47. Future: Honest
  48. Cloud Nothings: Here and Nowhere Else
  49. Lee Bains III & the Glory Fires: Dereconstructed
  50. Ty Segall: Manipulator

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http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6415054/dangelo-black-messiah-making-of-russell-elevado

The Making of D'Angelo's 'Black Messiah': A Q&A With Engineer Russell Elevado

By Elias Leight | December 22, 2014 4:52 PM EST

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Cover art for D'Angelo's 2014 album Black Messiah.

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For D'Angelo fans, Christmas came early last week: The singer unexpectedly released Black Messiah, his first full-length since 2000. One of the many things that sets the album apart is its sound: dense and deep, full of intricate details, somehow welcoming and warm and vicious all at once.

To find out more about the unique sonics, Billboard spoke with one of D'Angelo's engineers, Russell Elevado -- who also helped the singer put out his last release,Voodoo. Elevado talked about the first time he met D'Angelo, the unique nature of their creative relationship, and how he makes "crazy sounds."

D'Angelo's 'Black Messiah...rst Listen

How and when did you first get into engineering?
I was always interested in sound from an early age -- in my early teens I started looking at who was the engineer and who was the producer and always tweaking everyone's stereos at their houses and in their cars. Straight after high school I went right into engineering school in New York. I started interning six months into school, before I even graduated. This was back in 1986. As soon as I got my feet wet, I realized this is where I want to be. I don't want to be in the front. I want to be the guy behind the scenes.

It's great to have that realization so early.
I know. I was really meant to do this. I really was.

How would you describe the role of an engineer?
I'm the man responsible for making everything sound as good as possible, whatever that may be. I definitely find there's a new definition of an engineer these days, but I'm going to talk about the way I was brought up: old school. My role as an engineer is to make sure the artist is comfortable and that I can give them the best sound as humanly possible.

How did you first meet D'Angelo?
He was being managed by a guy named Kedar Massenburg when he was working on Brown Sugar. I was mixing a project for Angie Stone -- at the time she had a group called Vertical Hold. Kedar was managing that band as well. He liked the stuff that he was hearing, so he was like, "Hey, man, I want to introduce you to D'Angelo, they're looking for another enginner." Bob Power had initially started the album, and I guess there was some artistic disagreements, so they were looking for somebody else. [Massenburg] played me the demos and I was like, "Yes! Definitely want to work with this guy." That's how we met, and I think we were really meant to meet.

We were actually talking about Voodoo as I started mixing his songs [for Brown Sugar]. I heard a little bit more raw version of him than how the songs that were already mixed had sounded. That's when we started talking about all the '60s and '70s influences -- Led Zeppelin and Hendrix and Funkadelic.

Top 10 Lyrics From D'Ange...k Messiah'

So Voodoo vs. Black Messiah: Voodoo is famous for a lot of the songs coming out of jams. Questlove has talked about how "Chicken Grease" stems from a Curtis Mayfield song like "Mother's Son." Is that the same sort of approach that was taken on the new record?
Not really. Much later on, he did start to want to jam with other musicians. A lot of it at the beginning was him bringing demos in that he had worked on at home and wanted to recreate and do over in the studio and see how far that went. Even from the initial recordings straight after Voodoo in 2001, it was a lot of him solo in the studio. He'd jump on the drums, then he'd jump on the guitar, then the bass. Me and D'Angelo haven 't talked about this actually, but to me, it felt like he wanted to do something that was more him and less collaborative, just to see where he can go with it, where he's not always feeding off other musicians. I think that's one of the big differences, a lot of these songs were conceived without any jamming. Though songs like "Another Life" and "Till It's Done (Tutu)," those were born out of jams for sure.

A lot of it would be just the three of us, D'Angelo, myself and Ben [Kane, who also worked as an enginner on Black Messiah]. My role has always been: just getting some crazy sounds. D'Angelo's told me that he considers me the George Martin of the project. [George Martin played an instrumental role in the sound ofthe Beatles.] We feed off each other. There's something always special when me and D'Angelo get together. It's different from any time I've worked with anybody else.

Now that he's made this move toward playing more guitar himself, was a lot of this music started on the guitar?
Yeah. Songs were developing differently because he was writing on the guitar vs. the keyboard. He would approach songwriting or coming up with a groove in a different way because he wasn't sitting behind a keyboard.

How about the strings on this album? There's some strings on Brown Sugar, but it's been a long time since he's worked with string sections -- what was the thinking behind that?
We've talked about that. [D'Angelo's] mentioned, "Hey, man, we haven't really done any strings, we should put some cool strings." He's not a big fan of lush, lush strings, but he does like stuff that Motown's done of course, and somebody like the Beatles, and Clare Fischer -- he's a big fan of the stuff that Clare Fischer did with Prince. He definitely wanted to include that element. It's something that he hasn't really done on any album, so it was something unique that we could do.

D'Angelo's 'Black Messiah... Bad Thing

A lot of acts are inspired by the same funk and soul that inspires you and D'Angelo, but very few albums come out sounding like Black Messiah. What allows you guys to get your unique sound?
I've been doing this style for a long time. One of the secrets -- and it's not really a secret -- is that I still use tape. And I mix out of the box. This is a good thing for people to understand. Most mixers -- at least 85 percent of the big-name mixers -- are mixing in the box, or sort of a hybrid. In the box means they're staying inside the computer. They're only coming out of two channels, as if you were coming out of a stereo, to mix the song. Whereas I could be using tape, or when I use pro-tools, I'm using it more like a multi-track recorder, like a tape machine. I'm not using it for the processing or effects. I'm using all the effects outboard, all with old vintage gear -- the stuff that Jimi would use or the Beatles would use. I've got a huge collection; I've been collecting for years. If I'm in the digital domain, using pro-tools as a multi-track, I'm putting out all of the tracks on separate outputs -- I could have up to 80 tracks coming out of pro-tools. Someone mixing in the box, they'd only have two.

In the U.S., Pro Tools was the revolution. Right after Voodoo, the digital revolution came as far as Pro Tools really infiltrating the recording. [It] made everything cheap, and then people started doing stuff in their bedrooms and that started to kill the studio business. And then by 2004, [Pro Tools] was the standard. When everybody was embracing all of that stuff, I just stayed doing my analog thing. I tried [Pro Tools] -- I couldn't get the sound that I could normally get with digital. I just stuck to my guns, and it wasn't easy at first. A lot of people were turned off by the fact that we had to get budget for tape. But I never embraced Pro Tools at all. There's only a few of us who prefer analog and still kind of do it the old-school way. And that's a huge part of the sound.

Is it hard since you're an analog guy to have the songs compressed to MP3s? Is that a tragic moment for you?
It is. Even down to the CDs, because I'm mixing in such a high fidelity. They've always got to take it down from 24 bits to 16, and that conversion alone takes the quality down. To hear that and then reference it back to my original mix is definitely a letdown. But I've learned to get used to it. For this one, I didn't want to see the quality suffer as much as I have had to put up with in the past, so I was very meticulous that the end product would capture most of the original mixes.

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Are there a lot of fully finished songs that didn't end up on the album?
I wouldn't say fully finished. There were a few that were pretty close that didn't make it on. Then there were a ton of sketches that were done.

So what's next for you?
I'm taking this bit of holiday season off for sure, up until the new year. I'm producing a group called the Dragons of Zynth, a bunch of Brooklyn dudes playing rock and soul. I'm just so happy that the album is done. I'm trying to let it all sink in -- it's been a saga, and it hasn't always been easy. I don't know if a lot of people can relate to doing a project that's been on and off for this long.

I really want to finish some of those songs that haven't been done. Also Pino [Palladino, who played bass on much of Voodoo and Black Messiah] is gonna be working on a solo album too. That's going to be something in the future which should be amazing.

How did D'Angelo connect with Pino? I know that Questlove once said Pino is one of the few bassists who can reproduce the sound of James Jamerson from Motown, but before Voodoo, had Pino worked much outside of rock?
He hadn't done anything that was that funky. His first band was Paul Young, he did all the classics [sings "Every Time You Go Away"]. That's Pino. That was his first band, and he traded that signature sound. He did the whole late '80s, early '90s, big pop-rock guys -- Elton John, Tears for Fears, Don Henley. That Don Henley stuff was huge!

D'Angelo was invited to play on B.B. King's album of duets [Deuces Wild, from 1997]. B.B.'s house band was Pino, Steve Jordan, just a bunch of fucking famous people. D'Angelo came in, and we were waiting for B.B. King. They were jamming on some old soul covers. D'Angelo can play that stuff in his sleep. The band was just like, "who the hell is this guy?" He's virtually unknown at this point -- we had just started working on Voodoo. But D kept looking at Pino like, "who the fuck is this guy?" Cause [Pino]'s playing Jamerson note for note. [Pino] introduced himself, and in my head, I'm like, oh shit! This is Pino? I had no idea he could play funky soul shit. And that was it. D was like, "yo, it's great to meet you." And Pino was like, "hey man, I'm a big fan" -- he loved Brown Sugar. We were meant to meet. 2 months later, he was at Electric Lady jamming with us.

Is there a favorite D'Angelo moment you have from the Black Messiahsessions?
There's been a lot of moments, as you can imagine. One of the ones that sticks out is the sessions we did when he wrote "Another Life" and "Till It's Done." "Another Life," when that song came about, it was pretty magical. It was literally out of thin air. It was conceived, the way it's arranged, in one evening. Then they did another take of it the following day. But there've been a lot of magical moments.

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #175 posted 12/23/14 7:26pm

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^ great read... thanks scriptgirl cool

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Reply #176 posted 12/23/14 8:48pm

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No prob!

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #177 posted 12/24/14 8:04am

2020

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The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.

Remember there is only one destination and that place is U
All of it. Everything. Is U.
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Reply #178 posted 12/24/14 2:27pm

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2020 said:

Check this out... https://soundcloud.com/ar...sugahmotha

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Eh.

I could only get through 0.50 of that mess!

Someone who knows what they're doing should do a skillful mash up.

I don't mean to offend if this was yours.

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Reply #179 posted 12/25/14 4:29pm

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSeMDaW6qek

Am I the only one hearing stuff from this Van Hunt album on Black Messiah. Especially Prayer is very Van Hunt-ish. I love it though.

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