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2015 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Inductees announced

Ringo Starr

The 5 Royales

Paul Butterfield Blues Band

Green Day

Joan Jett & The Blackhearts

Lou Reed

Bill Withers

Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble

I think they are all good choices. Some in the hip hop community are outraged that NWA didn't get in, but let's be real ... they didn't have the impact that inductees Run DMC, Public Enemy, Beastie Boys or Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five all had.

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Reply #1 posted 12/16/14 8:03am

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If Ringo gets in, I think The Beatles will be the only act in which the group and all of the individual members have been inducted as well as George Martin their producer. As far as NWA goes, The Geto Boys came out around the same time, maybe before with the original lineup.

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Ringo did get in, the list is of all those who will definitely be inducted in April.

I can think of at least one other group act whereby all the members were inducted twice (although not as a solo) - Crosby, Stills & Nash. biggrin

And the only person to be inducted three times? Eric Clapton.

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Reply #3 posted 12/16/14 9:21am

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Pokeno4Money said:

Ringo did get in, the list is of all those who will definitely be inducted in April.

I can think of at least one other group act whereby all the members were inducted twice (although not as a solo) - Crosby, Stills & Nash. biggrin

And the only person to be inducted three times? Eric Clapton.

Since that's the case, then I wonder if Bill Withers will perform.

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That list is weak.

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Reply #5 posted 12/16/14 9:44am

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I respect these choices. It's nice to see Stevie Ray get in. He was an awesome guitarist. I still can't believe they let Kiss in last year though confused
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Ringo Starr on Hall of Fame Induction: 'Finally, the Four of Us Are In'

By Andy Greene | December 16, 2014 | Rolling Stone

Ringo Starr

Ringo Starr first learned he was receiving the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's Award for Musical Excellence when Paul McCartney called him up about two weeks ago. "He said, 'Would you accept the award?'" Starr says. "I said, 'Sure, man.' He said he'd been talking to Dave Grohl and other people and they were stunned that I wasn't in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and he needed something to do that night and he's going to give me the award." Rolling Stone spoke to the affable drummer about his reaction and why he'll still be drumming.

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Congratulations on the big news.
Yeah, the big news! My goodness! I'm so excited.

What was your first reaction?
I think it's good. I didn't know that George and John were in it. I'm not keeping up with it all the time. We'll have a very nice evening and it'll be my pleasure to receive the award.

So this isn't something you thought about much?
No. I didn't think about it much or expect it. This year has been quite busy. I've been touring a lot. I got the humanitarian award from GQ. I became a male model for John Varvatos, so my life is busy anyway. This came out of the blue. I didn't expect it. I got the call from Paul two weeks ago. He said, "This could happen. Do you want to do it?" I said, "Sure."

What does this mean to you personally?
It means recognition. And it means, finally, the four of us are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame even though we were the biggest pop group in the land. You know that won't look funny in black and white.

Tell me your memories of the 1988 ceremony when the Beatles got inducted.
1988 was a long time ago, I'm afraid. It was a big dinner with a lot of people. Mick [Jagger] was there. It's interesting that you do those gigs and you bump into a lot of people you haven't met in a long time, so that's always good.

Do you recall Mike Love's speech that night?
I don't. Did he mention me?

He chewed out most people in the room, including the Beatles, and said that Mick Jagger was too "chickenshit" to get on stage with the Beach Boys.
Yeah. I don't really ever listen to what he has to say [laughs].

They're also inducting Bill Withers.
Oh, great! I only know about me, but Bill Withers! How great is that.

He hasn't really performed much in public in the last 25 years.
I met him about six months ago. He came to a session we were doing. It was so great. He's not playing anymore or coming out much. We all said, "Come on, Bill, get up and play." He was like, "Oh no, I don't do that anymore." But that's great company already. Who else is on the list?

Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble and the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.
My gosh.

Joan Jett and the Blackhearts.
Oh yeah, Joan Jett is great!

Green Day.
Oh yeah, I love Green Day. It's actually, in its fashion, very rock and roll this year. Some years it's not very rock and roll.

As an early influence, they're bringing in the 5 Royales.
Do I know them? I can't put my finger on it.

They were an American R&B band that was popular around 1952.
That was before even my time.

The ceremony is back in Cleveland this year.
I was just in Cleveland over the summer. It was great. I had a really good time and the people were great.

Are you going to perform?
Not that I know of. I told Paul that I'm not putting a band together. If he puts a band together, I'll do "With A Little Help From My Friends."

I can't think of a better song for the all-star jam at the end of the night.
That part of it I'm leaving to my producer, Paul [laughs].

You're going back on tour in a few months.
I'm doing America and South America in February/March. I come back in April and I'll be in Cleveland, of course.

You used to take a year off between tours, but they seem to go every single year now.
I often do three tours a year now: summer, spring and fall. This year, we're going back to South America. We did Japan. I'm doing anywhere I can. I love this band. I'm trying to keep it together. The next tour we're doing is mad because we do four gigs in America, fly to Puerto Rico for a gig, fly back to Florida for a gig, fly to Brazil and do a gig and then work our way through South America until we get to Mexico City and then back to California and we've got four gigs there and a gig in Vegas.

Do you see yourself still doing this in your 80s and beyond?
I can only look to Tony Bennett and B.B. King. We can go as long as we can go. That's always been the way. If I can hold the sticks and I can stand up, I can do what I love to do. If people are still coming, that's the deal. I don't want to play with myself.

Tell me the coolest thing about having Joe Walsh as your brother-in-law.
The way he plays. I just finished my next record and Joe and I wrote a track and I asked him to come back and play on another track that I wrote with Todd Rundgren. He's just the best. If you look at my Twitter site, I keep saying that Joe Walsh is the best.

I see that most of your solo albums are on Spotify. Do you ever use that or other streaming services?
No. I go on iTunes and pay the artist so at least there'll be some remuneration for them and they can keep going. I heard the story of some artist, who we all know and love, who had five million streams and they gave him a check for $17. We're not all very excited about those streamers.

So I imagine the Beatles catalog won't be on Spotify then.
It'll probably be streaming before I put the phone down [laughs]. I'm only joking.

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Reply #7 posted 12/16/14 10:13am

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Not that I particularly care, but it's nice to see Lou Reed there, definitely one of my favorite rock musicians of all time, kinda weird he wasn't in there already (I assume the VU already were?) Also very nice to see Bill Withers honoured, a less obvious choice maybe for the rock and roll hall of fame, but still heartwarming to see him get it.
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Reply #8 posted 12/16/14 10:14am

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MickyDolenz said:

Since that's the case, then I wonder if Bill Withers will perform.

Withers, who has been largely absent from the music scene over the past three decades, was surprised when he heard the news. "I never thought it was some kind of entitlement or something," he says. "I just never felt that anyone owed me this. It's something that's nice that happened. I guess I'll have to go buy a suit."

He might even agree to a rare performance on the evening, but at the moment he's far from sure about that. "There are some people that can sing in their later years and some of them that can't," he says. "I don't want to be on of those old guys that sounds like a gerbil trying to give birth to a hippopotamus. I've gotta see if I can't conjure it up"

lol Green Day, Lou Reed Enter Rock and Roll Hall of Fame | Rolling Stone

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SoulAlive said:

MickyDolenz said:

Since that's the case, then I wonder if Bill Withers will perform.

Withers, who has been largely absent from the music scene over the past three decades, was surprised when he heard the news. "I never thought it was some kind of entitlement or something," he says. "I just never felt that anyone owed me this. It's something that's nice that happened. I guess I'll have to go buy a suit."

He might even agree to a rare performance on the evening, but at the moment he's far from sure about that. "There are some people that can sing in their later years and some of them that can't," he says. "I don't want to be on of those old guys that sounds like a gerbil trying to give birth to a hippopotamus. I've gotta see if I can't conjure it up"

lol Green Day, Lou Reed Enter Rock and Roll Hall of Fame | Rolling Stone

Awww...Congratulations Bill Withers!! biggrin I really hope he does perform.

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Pokeno4Money said:

Ringo Starr


The 5 Royales


Paul Butterfield Blues Band


Green Day


Joan Jett & The Blackhearts


Lou Reed


Bill Withers


Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble



I think they are all good choices. Some in the hip hop community are outraged that NWA didn't get in, but let's be real ... they didn't have the impact that inductees Run DMC, Public Enemy, Beastie Boys or Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five all had.

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NWA got snubbed. Their impact still being felt today. Flash, Beastie Boys, ect not so much.

The conscious top three hip hop groups all time are usually Run DMC, Public Enemy and NWA.
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I don't think I've ever heard a Green Day song.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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MickyDolenz said:

I don't think I've ever heard a Green Day song.

Lol............that plus I've never heard of the 5 Royales or Paul Butterfield.

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Graycap23 said:

Lol............that plus I've never heard of the 5 Royales or Paul Butterfield.

They were kinda like the early Peter Green era Fleetwood Mac, but American. They released Mike Nesmith's Mary Mary before the Monkees recorded it.

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Graycap23 said:



MickyDolenz said:


I don't think I've ever heard a Green Day song.




Lol.....that plus I've never heard of the 5 Royales or Paul Butterfield.


5 Royales very influential in the progression on RnB and Soul.
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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Graycap23 said:

Lol............that plus I've never heard of the 5 Royales or Paul Butterfield.

5 Royales very influential in the progression on RnB and Soul.

I need 2 check them out.

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Reply #16 posted 12/16/14 11:19am

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It's probably fitting that NWA isn't in. The guys/kids in that group would've just said fuck 'em. The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in many ways represents what groups like NWA and Public Enemy (in their heyday) was fighting against. Now, I'm sure as older men these guys would love the attention, prestige, and accolades that come with induction. The young men that made the records, not so much.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Pokeno4Money said:

Ringo Starr

The 5 Royales

Paul Butterfield Blues Band

Green Day

Joan Jett & The Blackhearts

Lou Reed

Bill Withers

Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble

I think they are all good choices. Some in the hip hop community are outraged that NWA didn't get in, but let's be real ... they didn't have the impact that inductees Run DMC, Public Enemy, Beastie Boys or Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five all had.

[Edited 12/16/14 7:04am]

NWA got snubbed. Their impact still being felt today. Flash, Beastie Boys, ect not so much. The conscious top three hip hop groups all time are usually Run DMC, Public Enemy and NWA.

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You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Winston-Salem-band '5' Royales to be inducted into Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:19 am

Some long-overdue recognition is coming to the “5” Royales.

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The pioneering R&B band from Winston-Salem will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as an early influence, the Hall announced last night.

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The band will be inducted at a lavish ceremony on April 18 in Cleveland, home of the Hall, taking its place alongside such legends as Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry, The Beatles and James Brown.

The members of the “5” Royales met in east Winston-Salem, drawn by their love of gospel music. Lowman “Pete” Pauling, the band’s main songwriter and guitarist, later steered them into the burgeoning genre of R&B. The band’s biggest hits include “Dedicated to the One I Love” and “Think.”

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All the members of the original band have died.

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Other members of the class of 2015 include Lou Reed, Green Day, Stevie Ray Vaughan and Bill Withers.

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Reply #19 posted 12/16/14 12:52pm

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it's such a shame that War isn't being inducted disbelief confused Here's a band who could play funk,latin,rock and jazz.They successfully blended those genres together and had alot of major hits in the 70s.Damn shame.

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Reply #20 posted 12/16/14 12:55pm

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From true WARrior, Angelique Dickerson -
"Im disappointed In your decisions. I truly think that everyone involved should have promoted War alot more than you did. The Lowrider Band and their fans did WAY more promo and voting and it seems like the votes didnt move at all. My father and the rest of the band have been nominated 3 times and STILL hasnt been inducted. But Greenday? Really? Are you serious?? What musicial contributions have they made? The pure heart, soul, blood sweat and tears of Los Angeles were poured into WARs music. Their music is iconic and is everywhere and EVERYONE knows who they are. The music is classic, but thats the point.. INDUCT THOSE WHO MADE THE WORLD DANCE AND SING NOT SOME TRASH ASS BAND WITH A FEW SONGS THAT I SANG ALONG TO IN JUNIOR HIGHSCHOOL. You guys should have made a better choice and I truly feel the people's choice was not accepted. Im saddened by your selection.
Sincerely,
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Daughter of BB Dickerson the original bassist for the group, WAR and The Lowrider band."

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Isn't this supposed to be for what you have done as an individual?

If so, why on earth is Ringo inducted as a solo artist?

Same with the E Street Band, i mean separate from Bruce?

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Well for this the Hall is not about your charts, sales, etc....If that was the case Bon Jovi would have gotten in when on the ballot twice but now pretty much are not going too, the same with Chicago etc...alot of those bands will never get in because there are those who want them kept out, its true Ann Wilson of Heart said it as did Daryl Hall, there are alot of people who dont want certain things in, and a band that has BALLADS is one of them.

As for RINGO put the guy in, i mean without him there was No Beatles, I mean Pete Best sucked. And Ringo solo had almost as much chart success than John and George. Influence, well alot of ROCK drummers dig him and if the Beatles were an influence he was one. And if Clapton can get in for one album with a group than shit.

Joan Jett should have gotten in awhile ago, BUT i feel pat Benatar should also be in there, there is a HUGE miss of rock females in the Hall, and please dont give me Darlene Love and Patti Smith.

For the 80's crowd i can tell you that don't hold your breath for Depeche Mode or Duran Duran etc..not going to happen till the well really runs dry.


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Initially, Ringo was more popular on the US Top 40 than the other 3 Beatles. John wasn't really that big as far as singles go. That's why he made a bet with Elton John about Whatever Gets You Through The Night. Elton thought it would go #1 and John didn't.

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Reply #24 posted 12/16/14 9:36pm

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Pokeno4Money said:

Ringo did get in, the list is of all those who will definitely be inducted in April.

I can think of at least one other group act whereby all the members were inducted twice (although not as a solo) - Crosby, Stills & Nash. biggrin

And the only person to be inducted three times? Eric Clapton.

On the Crosby Stills and Nash front--strangely enough, all four members of Crosby Stills Nash & Young have been inducted twice... although Neil Young's came as a member of Buffalo Springfield and solo (not as part of CSNY). So that's kind of interesting.

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Graycap23 said:



MickyDolenz said:


I don't think I've ever heard a Green Day song.




Lol.....that plus I've never heard of the 5 Royales or Paul Butterfield.


Yes you have. James Browns Think is a 5 Royales song.
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Pokeno4Money said:

Ringo Starr

The 5 Royales

Paul Butterfield Blues Band

Green Day

Joan Jett & The Blackhearts

Lou Reed

Bill Withers

Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble

I think they are all good choices. Some in the hip hop community are outraged that NWA didn't get in, but let's be real ... they didn't have the impact that inductees Run DMC, Public Enemy, Beastie Boys or Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five all had.

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Green Day?? What a fucking joke, Nine Inch Nails got nominated for this wack ass Hall of Fame and Green Day gets in before Trent! LMMFBAO!
Like I said on another thread :

How seriously can one take this bullshit and weak as fuck of a R 'n R Hall of Fame when Bad Brains (and all the eligibles directly influenced by them) isn't even in it?!

So either WAR bands should stear clear from this fake ass HOF... Not to mention NIN...

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EddieC said:

Pokeno4Money said:

Ringo did get in, the list is of all those who will definitely be inducted in April.

I can think of at least one other group act whereby all the members were inducted twice (although not as a solo) - Crosby, Stills & Nash. biggrin

And the only person to be inducted three times? Eric Clapton.

On the Crosby Stills and Nash front--strangely enough, all four members of Crosby Stills Nash & Young have been inducted twice... although Neil Young's came as a member of Buffalo Springfield and solo (not as part of CSNY). So that's kind of interesting.



Yeah that is interesting, I hadn't even thought of Young ... and he is one of only three who were inducted first as a solo artist, then as a member of a band (the others are Rod Stewart and Clyde McPhatter).

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I can't believe it's taken so long for Lou to get inducted, Too bad they didn't get to it before he passed.

Change it one more time..
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Graycap23 said:

That list is weak.



I actually think it's pretty solid, although I'm not really feeling Lou Reed getting in the year after he died. I mean, his music is no more important now than it was before he died and he's been eligible for a while.

SRV & DT should have been in before now.

Joan Jett should have been in before now, glad that Nirvana performance last year gave her the push she needed in the eyes of the voters (something even she has admitted since this announcement was made).

Green Day being inducted and remembering hearing Joan Jett on the radio when she was REALLY popular together make me feel like, old! And I'm really NOT at all. lol

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