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Reply #630 posted 12/19/14 9:45am

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scriptgirl said:

When is the cutoff to chart on Billboard, cause D didn't chart this week.

U can'r release and chart in the same week.

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Reply #631 posted 12/19/14 9:59am

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When is the cutoff to chart on Billboard, cause D didn't chart this week.


He wasn't eligible to chart this week. They're looking at a top 5 showing with around 100,000 sold. Still behind Nikki Minaj and Taylor Swift.
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Reply #632 posted 12/19/14 11:32am

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This album is an instant classic and completely destroys those two cliched embarassing Prince records.

Got tickets for his London show.. CAN NOT WAIT

You've been saving that one for a while, haven't you? Waiting for the right opportunity to hate on Prince, haven't you? C'mon...c'mon...admit it. uzi fishslap chillout

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Reply #633 posted 12/19/14 11:38am

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Replica said:

This thread is a good example of why it's impossible to force "the truth" on people. I remember I used to try to introduce Prince slowly to friends trying to slowly "prove" he's the most talented, best and versatile artist the modern world has seen. Of course I grew up and understood the fact that we are different, and will like different things. We don't have to prove shit. We can give colorful arguments and historical references to make us sound more reflected and wise etc, but in the end an opinion is an opinion, and ones taste is his or her own personal taste. Our ego wants people to aknowledge what we think is the truth as if it's a well known fact.

Been listening to Black Messiah for a while now. And personally I love the textures, the nuances, the contrasts between darker and brighter feel, the joy versus the melancholy... it's a richer album than Voodoo in many ways when I'm talking about nuances and contrasts in styles and sounds. But is it better? Does it have more strong songs? It sure is a bit more demanding, and gives us more suprises here and there kinda, as Voodoo was more or less based on one sound all the way. I do think the album suffers from some of the same stuff Around The World In A Day suffered from. Especially songs like Temptation. Temptation was a very long song that demanded some sort of patience. I love Temptation, but music critics back then and alot of Prince fans hate it. Around The World In A Day would get alot more praise if it was release 3 years after Purple Rain. He could milk that cow for what it was worth quite a while longer, then disappear. When people are hungry, they'll give the music a chance, atleast if it's good. I'm sure Dr. Dre won't get that much praise for his new album if it comes out and it sucks. So are all D'angelo fans bandwagoners, hipsters or just simply blind believers that have been crossing their fingers for so many years that they won't admit that it's lacking something? I want to believe that most fans actually feel that this is a great album no matter what the critics or other people say. I do to. But a classic I'm not so sure yet.


I think what we've seen is just a bit of the old competitive instinct. Just our bilogical background ;P. Starts with people viewing their affiliations, ideas, tastes, judgements as extensions of their own self value. And then, instead of sitting down and honestly discussing, collaborating, seeing what everyone has to bring to the table and being open making the most of it all, instead it turns into a fight for dominance. Some people get threatened by not having universal approval, and just have to feed their insecurity and urge to conquer. And so the piss fights begin. The behavior might have made sense back when we lived in tribes where being influenced by the ideas of those outside your group might have endangered your kin's livelihood.

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thanks man... much appreciated

i'm a gearslutz member.. i've been reading the q&a stuff this evening... great stuff


Pleasure! Hope we hear more music from this group again soon. Can't wait to see the vids of the upcoming shows in 2015.

Amen, brother! And at the org, there has always been a deep cadre of people who think that theirs is the only opinion that matters.

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Reply #634 posted 12/19/14 12:24pm

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Hmm. After repeated listenings I feel that something's lacking from the middle section of this album. Another "beefier" track like "Prayer" perhaps? It gets a bit too "light" sounding at some point, after all the tracks with the multi-layered vocals and more distorted guitar on them.

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Reply #635 posted 12/19/14 2:00pm

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The album strikes me like a bottle of wine uncorked after a number of years.

The next glass will taste much different than the first, because the wine needs to "breathe."

I took a listen and it was intruiging. It doesn't (yet) strike me as an instant classic. Then again, neither did Voodoo at first listen.

J don't know why Prince in 2014 is being mentioned at length in this thread. At this point in their respective careers, Prince has his head in the clouds, and D'Angelo seems to have planted his feet back in the ground. They occupy different places and different spaces.

I can't wait to have time to allow this album to sink in.

FWIW, my twocents

Happy listening.

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Reply #636 posted 12/19/14 2:49pm

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lol lol lol

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Reply #637 posted 12/19/14 3:03pm

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namepeace said:



J don't know why Prince in 2014 is being mentioned at length in this thread.


A) this thread is on a Prince website

2) D'Angelo's music is inspired by Prince (and others of course)

III) they both have new long anticipated albums

Not trying to be a smartass, just sayin'... wink

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Reply #638 posted 12/19/14 3:05pm

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Reply #639 posted 12/19/14 3:06pm

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namepeace said:

The album strikes me like a bottle of wine uncorked after a number of years.

The next glass will taste much different than the first, because the wine needs to "breathe."

I took a listen and it was intruiging. It doesn't (yet) strike me as an instant classic. Then again, neither did Voodoo at first listen.

J don't know why Prince in 2014 is being mentioned at length in this thread. At this point in their respective careers, Prince has his head in the clouds, and D'Angelo seems to have planted his feet back in the ground. They occupy different places and different spaces.

I can't wait to have time to allow this album to sink in.

FWIW, my twocents

Happy listening.


I'm particularly interested in what you thought of my review, NP. It's somewhere in this thread.
I think on page 16.

Anyways, I agree with you about unnecessary comparisons this album has with Prince.

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Reply #640 posted 12/19/14 3:18pm

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Anyways, I agree with you about unnecessary comparisons this album has with Prince.


Just to be clear, I agree that comparisons are "unnecessary". No doubt.
That said, it's to be expected. No? wink

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Reply #641 posted 12/19/14 3:23pm

MoBettaBliss

apparently, the CD is delayed here in Australia

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Reply #642 posted 12/19/14 3:42pm

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We have a sticky for D now, so I'm locking this thread. lock

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