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Thread started 11/22/14 11:02pm

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So, when did D'Angelo become a legend?

Everytime a mention is made of D now, the terms icon and legend come up. Now you know I love the D, but I was just wondering at what point did he become a legend (not disagreeing) and why?

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Reply #1 posted 11/22/14 11:04pm

SeventeenDayze

scriptgirl said:

Everytime a mention is made of D now, the terms icon and legend come up. Now you know I love the D, but I was just wondering at what point did he become a legend (not disagreeing) and why?

I was kind of wondering the same thing. I guess he has a huge cult following of some sort.

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Reply #2 posted 11/23/14 1:46am

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scriptgirl said:

Everytime a mention is made of D now, the terms icon and legend come up. Now you know I love the D, but I was just wondering at what point did he become a legend (not disagreeing) and why?


Never. He's not a legend. There is only one Legend in the music bizz and his name is John. hmph!
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Reply #3 posted 11/23/14 2:42am

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I see people keep mistaking "cult following" with "legend"

just sayin...be cool yall

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Reply #4 posted 11/23/14 3:41am

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Reply #5 posted 11/23/14 9:39am

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Never, And Im cool with that. And Im sure he's cool with that. The Legend title or how popular an artist is to the masses means nothing to me. I just love his sound.
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Reply #6 posted 11/23/14 10:01am

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"VooDoo Tour"?

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Reply #7 posted 11/23/14 10:17am

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Reply #8 posted 11/23/14 10:28am

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As in: "Legend has it that the mythical creature called the D'Angelo roams his studio by night, possessed by the spirit of deceased soul singers, and condemned to continue recording an album for all eternity, or at least until his curse is lifted. Believers say one day this album shall be released into the world and shall cause a great storm in the souls of men, though others say this is just a fairy tale."

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Reply #9 posted 11/23/14 1:09pm

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deebee said:

As in: "Legend has it that the mythical creature called the D'Angelo roams his studio by night, possessed by the spirit of deceased soul singers, and condemned to continue recording an album for all eternity, or at least until his curse is lifted. Believers say one day this album shall be released into the world and shall cause a great storm in the souls of men, though others say this is just a fairy tale."

lol

Personally, I think he became a 'legend' after apparently having serious drug and legal issues for years (serious drug problems and disappearing from public sight for a number of years always seem to help in the 'legend' stakes for some reason) and lo, come the tenth anniversary of the release of Voodoo with no follow-up in sight, the Org did declaim Michael Eugene Archer a LEGEND. cool wink

It was then that the John the Baptist for D'angelo's 'second coming', one Questlove Thompson, did turn around and did spake, 'The new album is 99.99999999999999999 % done and will definitely be released sometime this century'.

IMO - Two good albums in 19 years maketh a legend not ... eek

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Reply #10 posted 11/23/14 2:43pm

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After you made a thread about him every week.

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Reply #11 posted 11/23/14 3:34pm

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uh, he didn't, he hasn't, he won't be. another talented flame out who won't reach his potential. but 2.5 albums that are great but probably overrated

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Reply #12 posted 11/23/14 4:52pm

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Gunsnhalen said:

After you made a thread about him every week.

Thank you! LOL

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Reply #13 posted 11/23/14 4:53pm

Nick715

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uh, he didn't, he hasn't, he won't be. another talented flame out who won't reach his potential. but 2.5 albums that are great but probably overrated

Agreed. Two studio albums? Oh hell no.

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Reply #14 posted 11/23/14 6:09pm

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I love D angelo to bits but he is definitly not a legend. He does have a very dedicated fan base though.

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Reply #15 posted 11/23/14 6:31pm

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Why isn't he a legend?

I think he is.

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Reply #16 posted 11/23/14 6:45pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Why isn't he a legend?

I think he is.

There's no doubt that he's talented but what exactly makes him legendary at this point. He is getting away with having only two releases in about 20 years but maybe he's considered a legend by some because his fan base is pretty loyal and he's also had some struggles that might make him legendary to some.

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Reply #17 posted 11/23/14 6:57pm

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SeventeenDayze said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Why isn't he a legend?

I think he is.

There's no doubt that he's talented but what exactly makes him legendary at this point. He is getting away with having only two releases in about 20 years but maybe he's considered a legend by some because his fan base is pretty loyal and he's also had some struggles that might make him legendary to some.

  • Why do you have to put many albums to be considerd a legend?

  • He had/has a major impact in the genre of R&B and even Hip-Hop.

  • Joe has released like 15 albums in 20 years, is he a legend?

  • What if he was releasing crap for the past 20 years, would he be a legend than?

  • Not saying Joe releases crap (lol) but his impact make him a legend.

  • Flip Wilson is considerd a legend and his clame to fame is the Flip Wilson Show from 1970-1974 and he basically disapeared after that.

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Reply #18 posted 11/23/14 7:35pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Why isn't he a legend?



I think he is.



Hell you think Joe Tex is a legend. lol

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Reply #19 posted 11/23/14 7:49pm

SeventeenDayze

LittleBLUECorvette said:

SeventeenDayze said:

There's no doubt that he's talented but what exactly makes him legendary at this point. He is getting away with having only two releases in about 20 years but maybe he's considered a legend by some because his fan base is pretty loyal and he's also had some struggles that might make him legendary to some.

  • Why do you have to put many albums to be considerd a legend?

  • He had/has a major impact in the genre of R&B and even Hip-Hop.

  • Joe has released like 15 albums in 20 years, is he a legend?

  • What if he was releasing crap for the past 20 years, would he be a legend than?

  • Not saying Joe releases crap (lol) but his impact make him a legend.

  • Flip Wilson is considerd a legend and his clame to fame is the Flip Wilson Show from 1970-1974 and he basically disapeared after that.

Okay, you bring up some good points that I hadn't considered before. I guess you could make the argument that he's had an impact on music but what confuses me sometimes is that we clearly see who D'Angelo was influenced by (re: Prince) so we could argue that it's Prince that continues to make the impact on music moreso than D'Angelo. I guess I just don't hear or see a lot of people specifically pointing out D'Angelo as their main musical influence. But, this could be because I don't have my ear to the ground in that regard so that's entirely possible that I might have been missing something along the way smile I hear what you're saying about Joe and Flip Wilson but I wonder if we had artists who consistenly did what D'Angelo is doing would they also be considered legends just because their name has been around for a while and it automatically makes them a legend in the minds of some? In other words, are we going to consider a group like One Direction a legend in 20 years just because they are hot now for a short while? Unfortunately, the answer is yes, LOL

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Reply #20 posted 11/23/14 8:32pm

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As in: "Legend has it that the mythical creature called the D'Angelo roams his studio by night, possessed by the spirit of deceased soul singers, and condemned to continue recording an album for all eternity, or at least until his curse is lifted. Believers say one day this album shall be released into the world and shall cause a great storm in the souls of men, though others say this is just a fairy tale."



You's. A. FOOL!... lol

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Reply #21 posted 11/23/14 8:34pm

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phunkdaddy said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Why isn't he a legend?

I think he is.

Hell you think Joe Tex is a legend. lol Just messing with you LBC



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Reply #22 posted 11/23/14 9:12pm

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SeventeenDayze said:



LittleBLUECorvette said:



SeventeenDayze said:



There's no doubt that he's talented but what exactly makes him legendary at this point. He is getting away with having only two releases in about 20 years but maybe he's considered a legend by some because his fan base is pretty loyal and he's also had some struggles that might make him legendary to some.




  • Why do you have to put many albums to be considerd a legend?


  • He had/has a major impact in the genre of R&B and even Hip-Hop.


  • Joe has released like 15 albums in 20 years, is he a legend?


  • What if he was releasing crap for the past 20 years, would he be a legend than?


  • Not saying Joe releases crap (lol) but his impact make him a legend.


  • Flip Wilson is considerd a legend and his clame to fame is the Flip Wilson Show from 1970-1974 and he basically disapeared after that.



Okay, you bring up some good points that I hadn't considered before. I guess you could make the argument that he's had an impact on music but what confuses me sometimes is that we clearly see who D'Angelo was influenced by (re: Prince) so we could argue that it's Prince that continues to make the impact on music moreso than D'Angelo. I guess I just don't hear or see a lot of people specifically pointing out D'Angelo as their main musical influence. But, this could be because I don't have my ear to the ground in that regard so that's entirely possible that I might have been missing something along the way smile I hear what you're saying about Joe and Flip Wilson but I wonder if we had artists who consistenly did what D'Angelo is doing would they also be considered legends just because their name has been around for a while and it automatically makes them a legend in the minds of some? In other words, are we going to consider a group like One Direction a legend in 20 years just because they are hot now for a short while? Unfortunately, the answer is yes, LOL


Prince is a continuation of James Brown and Sly Stone, so are you taking Prince away?

One Direction has not influence anyone. They are no different than NSync and Backstreet. DAngelo came out, totally different from P. Yeah, he got P in him but it's different.
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Reply #23 posted 11/23/14 9:19pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Okay, you bring up some good points that I hadn't considered before. I guess you could make the argument that he's had an impact on music but what confuses me sometimes is that we clearly see who D'Angelo was influenced by (re: Prince) so we could argue that it's Prince that continues to make the impact on music moreso than D'Angelo. I guess I just don't hear or see a lot of people specifically pointing out D'Angelo as their main musical influence. But, this could be because I don't have my ear to the ground in that regard so that's entirely possible that I might have been missing something along the way smile I hear what you're saying about Joe and Flip Wilson but I wonder if we had artists who consistenly did what D'Angelo is doing would they also be considered legends just because their name has been around for a while and it automatically makes them a legend in the minds of some? In other words, are we going to consider a group like One Direction a legend in 20 years just because they are hot now for a short while? Unfortunately, the answer is yes, LOL

Prince is a continuation of James Brown and Sly Stone, so are you taking Prince away? One Direction has not influence anyone. They are no different than NSync and Backstreet. DAngelo came out, totally different from P. Yeah, he got P in him but it's different.

At some point we have to admit that Prince's impact on music has been way more than D'Angelo, I don't think there's any dispute about that. I think One Direction fans would argue with you that they are (or will be) music legends. I guess they are no different than the Beach Boys. They had a few years of being on top but a lot of people consider the Beach Boys to be legends because they had a string of hits but did they leave a musical impact? That's all subjective really...

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Reply #24 posted 11/23/14 9:21pm

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phunkdaddy said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Why isn't he a legend?



I think he is.



Hell you think Joe Tex is a legend. lol

Just messing with you LBC

Watch it, James stole Tex whole get up, lol.
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Reply #25 posted 11/23/14 9:30pm

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SeventeenDayze said:



LittleBLUECorvette said:


SeventeenDayze said:


Okay, you bring up some good points that I hadn't considered before. I guess you could make the argument that he's had an impact on music but what confuses me sometimes is that we clearly see who D'Angelo was influenced by (re: Prince) so we could argue that it's Prince that continues to make the impact on music moreso than D'Angelo. I guess I just don't hear or see a lot of people specifically pointing out D'Angelo as their main musical influence. But, this could be because I don't have my ear to the ground in that regard so that's entirely possible that I might have been missing something along the way smile I hear what you're saying about Joe and Flip Wilson but I wonder if we had artists who consistenly did what D'Angelo is doing would they also be considered legends just because their name has been around for a while and it automatically makes them a legend in the minds of some? In other words, are we going to consider a group like One Direction a legend in 20 years just because they are hot now for a short while? Unfortunately, the answer is yes, LOL



Prince is a continuation of James Brown and Sly Stone, so are you taking Prince away? One Direction has not influence anyone. They are no different than NSync and Backstreet. DAngelo came out, totally different from P. Yeah, he got P in him but it's different.

At some point we have to admit that Prince's impact on music has been way more than D'Angelo, I don't think there's any dispute about that. I think One Direction fans would argue with you that they are (or will be) music legends. I guess they are no different than the Beach Boys. They had a few years of being on top but a lot of people consider the Beach Boys to be legends because they had a string of hits but did they leave a musical impact? That's all subjective really...


I dont think even D'Angelo himself would think he's had more of influence than P.

Beach Boys very influential. 1 Direction not so much
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Reply #26 posted 11/23/14 9:44pm

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Id say there was a few D'angelo influences after his debut . Musiq Soulchild first single, Raheem DeVaugh, Bilal's first single Soul Sista ,even Chico Debarge's Iggin Me all made an attempt to jump onboard with that new neo soul sound introduced to us with D'angelo's Brown Sugar. But it didnt work for them.
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Reply #27 posted 11/23/14 9:44pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

SeventeenDayze said:

At some point we have to admit that Prince's impact on music has been way more than D'Angelo, I don't think there's any dispute about that. I think One Direction fans would argue with you that they are (or will be) music legends. I guess they are no different than the Beach Boys. They had a few years of being on top but a lot of people consider the Beach Boys to be legends because they had a string of hits but did they leave a musical impact? That's all subjective really...

I dont think even D'Angelo himself would think he's had more of influence than P. Beach Boys very influential. 1 Direction not so much

Yeah I guess the Beach Boys kind of defined the whole boy band thing in the first place.

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Reply #28 posted 11/23/14 9:45pm

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daingermouz2020 said:

Id say there was a few D'angelo influences after his debut . Musiq Soulchild first single, Raheem DeVaugh, Bilal's first single Soul Sista ,even Chico Debarge's Iggin Me all made an attempt to jump onboard with that new neo soul sound introduced to us with D'angelo's Brown Sugar. But it didnt work for them.

Yeah I can see that. Good points here.

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Reply #29 posted 11/24/14 4:47am

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There is no reason why the Quantity of albums he's released should have any bearing on his musical legacy.

I think that for an Artist with a relatively small back catalogue his music continues to captivate his fans like no other artist (with only two full albums) I can think of. Obviously the whole will he/wont he situation of the new album has frustrated people but you can't deny the quality of everything he has recorded.

Terrence Trent D'arby gets a lot of love on here (I'm a huge fan myself) And has only 1 or 2 more major label albums than D' does. Both Sing, Write + Perform a large majority of their recordings. 2 of the most talented Artists of the last 25 years easily. Both have had personal struggles too. Theres no reason D'Angelo shouldn't be considered alongside somebody like that just because the new Album is long overdue.

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